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The US consumers who shop at Walmart and use Walmart Pay. I use Walmart Pay every time I shop at Walmart. It's convenient and it takes a couple of seconds to complete the transaction. The receipt shows up on my phone immediately.
I'm not against Walmart pay or the choice to have Walmart pay. What I am against is Walmart taking away other choices to make their proprietary form of payment the only choice. If Walmart pay makes you happy then by all means use it. I think it's great if you like it and it works for you.

It's like someone choosing an android phone over an iPhone. If you like an android phone better then that's the phone you should buy. Just don't make the iPhone unavailable for me because that's what I want. I think we all should have choices, and that's not good when any of those were taken away. Also, even the people are calling this Apple Pay it also includes other contactless payments like Google pay that perhaps some android users would want to use.
 
I'm confused about your post? Perhaps the Walmart by your house is clean, but the one near me is not. These both can be true. I can only talk about my experience with the Walmart near me. I've heard some of the Walmart stores are quite nice.


Also, I'm confused about what you're calling first world arrogance? Are you implying that some people said Walmart was dirty that that's first world arrogance? I've been to many developing countries where their shops were clean.

My comment for example saying Walmart has a leaky roof is I think is appropriate. If some shop in the developing country has a leaking roof is understandable because the owner cannot afford to fix it. Walmart is a multi billion dollar company so they should not have the same problem. There is no excuse for them to have stores with leaking roofs other than them just trying to squeeze every penny out.

Maybe you're talking about people wanting Apple Pay as being first world arrogant? I don't see that one either because the USA as a “first world” country is behind many developing countries when it comes to contactless payment. We are not first world in that category.
Lots of posts in this thread putting Walmart and people that shop at Walmart down.

Not getting into all of their small businesses killing issues, Walmart provides goods to LOTS of people at good prices. Goods that people need to LIVE their lives.

I have Zero Foxtrots to give when it comes to how they take your money. Not shopping there just because they do not take Apple Pay, shows your true colors. Putting people down that do shop there makes you someone I never, ever want to talk too.

Just go back in this thread and look at the ignorance posted here.
 
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I'm not against Walmart pay or the choice to have Walmart pay. What I am against is Walmart taking away other choices to make their proprietary form of payment the only choice. If Walmart pay makes you happy then by all means use it. I think it's great if you like it and it works for you.

It's like someone choosing an android phone over an iPhone. If you like an android phone better then that's the phone you should buy. Just don't make the iPhone unavailable for me because that's what I want. I think we all should have choices, and that's not good when any of those were taken away. Also, even the people are calling this Apple Pay it also includes other contactless payments like Google pay that perhaps some android users would want to use.
I have no arguments. However Walmart is doing what's best for Walmart. They probably got a sweet deal for using Capitol One. They also take other credit cards but their electronic payment system is Walmart Pay. I see no problem with that as it's their choice.

Amazon is similar. They push their payment system while accepting other credit cards. It is the choice of the retailer to offer and accept their forms of payment.
 
I have no arguments. However Walmart is doing what's best for Walmart. They probably got a sweet deal for using Capitol One. They also take other credit cards but their electronic payment system is Walmart Pay. I see no problem with that as it's their choice.

Amazon is similar. They push their payment system while accepting other credit cards. It is the choice of the retailer to offer and accept their forms of payment.
I totally agree. I think it’s up to customers to express our preferences with our wallet. It’s like if Apple makes a phone I don’t like then I just won’t buy it. When it comes to Walmart I’m not going to boycott them or anything like that but if I’m close to two stores that have an item I need and one is Walmart can you guess what my choice will be.
 
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Lots of posts in this thread putting Walmart and people that shop at Walmart down.
I don’t see anything wrong with criticizing Walmart. As to criticizing people who shop at Walmart that’s silly. You can’t generalize their entire customer base.

Not getting into all of their small businesses killing issues, Walmart provides goods to LOTS of people at good prices. Goods that people need to LIVE their lives.
I agree but those goods were available before Walmart. Walmart just made imported goods more popular. I have no criticism of people buying what they need at Walmart. It’s their money and not my place to criticize.

I have Zero Foxtrots to give when it comes to how they take your money.
That’s your choice and there’s nothing wrong with that

Not shopping there just because they do not take Apple Pay, shows your true colors.
How so? If I prefer a business that has my preferred payment method then that’s my choice. Choices don’t have to be based on something significant or even something important to anyone else. I can prefer one store because the AC is cooler in the summer while someone else not because it’s too cold for them.

Putting people down that do shop there makes you someone I never, ever want to talk too.
No one should be putting someone else down for their shopping choices. That’s just immature behavior in my opinion. I hope my posts didn’t come across that way.
 
The only way to show Walmart or any company your disapproval of what they’re doing is to not shop there If enough people follow this suggestion than the power is with the people and things happen
I know another company that behave worse than Walmart and deserve this more than any other company. However there are still people that upgrades that company’s devices every year (at day one), even if already owns the previous version, just for the sake of feeding it’s greedy CEO...
 
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I totally agree. I think it’s up to customers to express our preferences with our wallet. It’s like if Apple makes a phone I don’t like then I just won’t buy it. When it comes to Walmart I’m not going to boycott them or anything like that but if I’m close to two stores that have an item I need and one is Walmart can you guess what my choice will be.

And this is fair enough. But to say that Walmart will stop Apple and Apple Pay due to their own payment system (which is only usable at Walmart locations and no where else) is one hell of a reach, especially seeing that Apple Pay has been fairly adopted around the world, and Walmart Pay is only used.... in Walmart.

Personally, the only time I ever shop at a Walmart is when I am in a small town, as they are the only place for any commerce in the town. For example, my grandparent's hometown is less than 4000 people, and the only retail store (grocery, clothing, sundries, or otherwise) is Walmart. It is a 40 mile drive in any direction to their closest competitor, so I have no choice when I'm there except for Walmart. Anywhere else, and I'm avoiding Walmart.

BL.
 
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And this is fair enough. But to say that Walmart will stop Apple and Apple Pay due to their own payment system (which is only usable at Walmart locations and no where else) is one hell of a reach, especially seeing that Apple Pay has been fairly adopted around the world, and Walmart Pay is only used.... in Walmart.

Personally, the only time I ever shop at a Walmart is when I am in a small town, as they are the only place for any commerce in the town. For example, my grandparent's hometown is less than 4000 people, and the only retail store (grocery, clothing, sundries, or otherwise) is Walmart. It is a 40 mile drive in any direction to their closest competitor, so I have no choice when I'm there except for Walmart. Anywhere else, and I'm avoiding Walmart.

BL.
Exactly. It would be silly to think either one would have very much influence over the other. Walmart, it’s like Apple in the sense they are both mega corporations so they don’t need each other to survive. Apple Pay is obviously is adopted around the world so it’s not going away even if Walmart holds out forever.

I still like to be an optimistic consumer and express my opinions with my wallet. I will prefer businesses that are doing the things I like. I think most consumers will prefer businesses where they get what they want. Does Walmart care that they some portion of my business and some portion of a few other people’s business? Probably not, but who knows maybe there’s some suit at their headquarters that figures out that they could get 0.5% extra revenue by adopting Apple Pay then it might happen 😂
 
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Exactly. It would be silly to think either one would have very much influence over the other. Walmart, it’s like Apple in the sense they are both mega corporations so they don’t need each other to survive. Apple Pay is obviously is adopted around the world so it’s not going away even if Walmart holds out forever.

I still like to be an optimistic consumer and express my opinions with my wallet. I will prefer businesses that are doing the things I like. I think most consumers will prefer businesses where they get what they want. Does Walmart care that they some portion of my business and some portion of a few other people’s business? Probably not, but who knows maybe there’s some suit at their headquarters that figures out that they could get 0.5% extra revenue by adopting Apple Pay then it might happen 😂

The one thing that I will praise Walmart for is the optimization of the concepts of product distribution. In previous times (most older department stores, Kmart, etc.) had the model of buying a $5 product from the manufacturer, which then had to get shipped by some carrier to a national warehouse, then by a carrier to a regional warehouse, then by a 3rd carrier to a local warehouse, then to a local distributor who would get the product to a store. Each one of those hops in the chain would charge for the time and money spent on shipping the product, in which the stores would offset that by marking up the cost of the product. By the time the product gets to the store, the store would mark that product up to $100, put it on the shelves, and that's what the people would buy.

Walmart cut out all of those middle men. They built their own warehouse, bought their own trucks, and shipped everything themselves. They'd still buy that $5 product from the manufacturer, but built their own distribution network (Sam Walton Distributions), used their own trucks to ship that product to their warehouses, then to the stores. They would still charge that markup, but would be instead paying themselves for that markup. They'd get that product to the stores, but instead of charging $100 for that product, they'd save a couple of pennies or dollars off (that $100 product would cost, for example, $97.42), so you think you're saving money over Walmart's competitor. Walmart pockets the difference, and that is how you get their prices over their competitors.

Walmart and Target use the same model.

Outside of that, it comes down to who they cater to, and why. Adoption of Apple Pay is one thing, but I have more ethical issues with Walmart than Apple Pay.

BL.
 
The main problem is not the acceptance of Apple Pay in Walmart USA but the acceptance of contactless payments.

The problem would be if Walmart USA has lots of American customers if Walmart USA does not have contactless payments. I wonder if Walmart USA has have lots of complaints from American customers that Walmart USA does have contactless payments in 2022 and 2023.
 
The main problem is not the acceptance of Apple Pay in Walmart USA but the acceptance of contactless payments.

The problem would be if Walmart USA has lots of American customers if Walmart USA does not have contactless payments. I wonder if Walmart USA has have lots of complaints from American customers that Walmart USA does have contactless payments in 2022 and 2023.

But the reason for walmart not accepting contactless is precisely apple pay. They refuse to accept apple pay at all costs, and since they can’t block it alone they simply shut off contactless altogether thereby also blocking everything else that uses nfc contactless besides apple pay.
 
But the reason for walmart not accepting contactless is precisely apple pay. They refuse to accept apple pay at all costs, and since they can’t block it alone they simply shut off contactless altogether thereby also blocking everything else that uses nfc contactless besides apple pay.

IMO I think at this point it's a belief that "online" is better for them. Note how much they push using their app and walmart.com to order for curbside pickup and delivery, even when you're already in the store. And to be honest, not having to wait in a line at all is always going to be faster than the ~10-20 seconds of savings/person by tapping a card or device.
 
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But the reason for walmart not accepting contactless is precisely apple pay. They refuse to accept apple pay at all costs, and since they can’t block it alone they simply shut off contactless altogether thereby also blocking everything else that uses nfc contactless besides apple pay.

I wonder if Walmart USA has heavy complaints American costumers for not accepting contactless payments.

If yes, it means Apple company has an advantage against Walmart USA with this situation when it comes to acceptance of contactless payments. Contactless payments is increasing and have high customer demand in the USA.
 
So do they not accept contactless cards?
Nope. At least not in Walmarts here in the US. The owners & CEO’s are too damn greedy & wants us to use Walmart Pay in which no one uses.

If other major retail companies such as Target & smaller retail companies, corporations, convenience stores & restaurants such as Dollar Tree, 7-Eleven, the USPS, etc. can have contactless payments, then so can Walmart. Other retail companies such as Kroger, Lowe’s & The Home Depot are also guilty of this ****, too.
 
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Nope. At least not in Walmarts here in the US. The owners & CEO’s are too damn greedy & wants us to use Walmart Pay in which no one uses.

If other major retail companies such as Target & smaller retail companies, corporations, convenience stores & restaurants such as Dollar Tree, 7-Eleven, the USPS, etc. can have contactless payments, then so can Walmart. Other retail companies such as Kroger, Lowe’s & The Home Depot are also guilty of this ****, too.

Kroger will take contactless payments and Apple Pay this summer 2023.

Lowes USA will take contactless payments and Apple Pay in late 2023.

For other retailers, it will have to depend on heavy demand and complaints from American consumers for contactless payments from 2023 and the coming years. Contactless payments, including tap to pay with physical credit cards, are popular by American consumers.
 
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Right now, no. And seeing the card readers and POS systems they have, they never will. I worked at a company that provisioned those devices, and none of them support contactless payment.

That, and lack of Apple Pay, while cosmetic reasons, are among the many reasons to not ever shop at Walmart, with the exception on if you are in a small town, and the only store for the entire town's needs is Walmart.

BL.

Funny thing is Walmart only has that policy in two countries: USA and Mexico. They already do accept contactless in other countries where they have a presence such as Canada, Costa Rica or Chile.
 
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Funny thing is Walmart only has that policy in two countries: USA and Mexico. They already do accept contactless in other countries where they have a presence such as Canada, Costa Rica or Chile.

I agree but I'm a Costco guy.

Ironically, Sam's Club does accept contactless payment. Yes, it is through their app, but you can link your personal credit/debit card through that and processes through that; not some QR code in which you have to reload every time.

That contactless payment is a bonus for Sam's Club as you can purchase gas/petrol through their app, while you still need to insert your membership card at Costco prior to using Apple Pay. You can use the Costco App to scan your membership card at the registers, but that functionality needs to be stretched to their pumps.

BL.
 
Ironically, Sam's Club does accept contactless payment. Yes, it is through their app, but you can link your personal credit/debit card through that and processes through that; not some QR code in which you have to reload every time.

Yeah, I know, they call it scan&go and I heard it’s nice because you also get to skip the checkout area of the Sam’s warehouse. However, while it’s touchless it’s not nfc contactless, which this thread is about and Sam’s, like any other walmart affiliate in the US and Mexico, still does not accept.
 
Yeah, I know, they call it scan&go and I heard it’s nice because you also get to skip the checkout area of the Sam’s warehouse. However, while it’s touchless it’s not nfc contactless, which this thread is about and Sam’s, like any other walmart affiliate in the US and Mexico, still does not accept.

I agree. I wish they did accept NFC; a reason why I still prefer Costco over Sam's Club. But as NFC will never happen at any Sam Walton property (because they want to possess something more valuable than a service offering to the customers: your data), it will be easier and simpler to clap with one hand than see NFC in any form being offered.

BL.
 
I agree. I wish they did accept NFC; a reason why I still prefer Costco over Sam's Club. But as NFC will never happen at any Sam Walton property (because they want to possess something more valuable than a service offering to the customers: your data), it will be easier and simpler to clap with one hand than see NFC in any form being offered.

I mean, people claim it's a data collection related thing, but given that so many others that supposedly had that same reasoning ended up enabling NFC in the end, I'm not so sure that's Walmart's main motivation. Whatever that reasoning is, though, only they really know.
 
It was even better when Costco enabled it on the gas pumps as well! Then pin bypass worked inside and outside with Visa debit cards via contactless.

The only drawback though is that you still have to swipe your membership card. The pumps can't scan the membership from the Costco App. If they did that, I wouldn't get gas anywhere else that doesn't accept Apple Pay.

BL.
 
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