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I'm guessing they're restaurants. They likely do have readers, but since the cultural standard in the US is to not have the reader taken to the table, QR is basically the only way to do pay at the table otherwise.
While that is true, both instances I am thinking of were places where you had to walk up and pay at the counter anyway. They did NOT have any kind of standard terminals, they had those funky Square or Clover devices.
 
I'm guessing they're restaurants. They likely do have readers, but since the cultural standard in the US is to not have the reader taken to the table, QR is basically the only way to do pay at the table otherwise.
Seems to be mixed here. Some still have the kiosks on the table, but more are using QR now. I still like the kiosks better because you can do more and can pay whenever you want once you won't be ordering anything else without waiting for the check.
 
I gave Ron Jon in Cocoa Beach a negative review last week, in part because they don't take contactless payments.

Were it not for my wife's physical card, I would have been screwed.

Normally I have a card with me, but I forgot my wallet in the hotel room.

When we travel, I think my wife WANTS me to forget my cards. Hmm...
 
Supporting NFC doesn't mean that Walmart would have to remove QR code support. Whether it's worthwhile for them to support the former in the first place, though... (especially if they have to jump through hoops to ensure they still don't support tapping regular credit or debit cards on their terminals).

I know. What I meant is that it’s doubtful whether it’s worthwhile for Walmart to have walmart pay also support nfc when they already have QR, which every phone all the way down to the cheapest ones can use.
 
I'm guessing they're restaurants. They likely do have readers, but since the cultural standard in the US is to not have the reader taken to the table, QR is basically the only way to do pay at the table otherwise.

Even if they have a chip card reader it’s usually a wired pinpad, which means they still can’t bring it over to the tables. That makes it much harder to pay contactless at a restaurant.
 
Seems to be mixed here. Some still have the kiosks on the table, but more are using QR now. I still like the kiosks better because you can do more and can pay whenever you want once you won't be ordering anything else without waiting for the check.

Most have either a QR or an app, but usually offered just as alternatives. They do have a card reader too, but usually it’s a wired pinpad connected to their computer, so they can’t process payments at the tables. That’s why the QR or app was a better option for them: it’s cheaper than getting the wireless terminals they didn’t bother to get when they upgraded to chip in the first place.
 
Businesses do stuff for "good PR" all the time. There isn't anything mystical about it.

The pandemic just provided an opportunity for businesses to pretend they care about people. "Ohh, look here people! See all this stuff we're doing to PROTECT YOU!! We love you soooooooooo much! Now give us your moneyz!"

Plenty of people fell for it too.

At least Walmart is honest. It doesn't even pretend to care. "We got the lowest price, buy it or not! And we don't care if you don't like it that we don't have Apple Pay either!"
Sure of businesses do things for PR. I don’t know why people think corporations somehow care for them. Individuals do things for PR when interacting with people they don’t care about. You may not care about the person you’re ordering food from but you’re not going to tell them get me my blank food now you blank. When the person at the register tells you have a good day, do you really think she cares if you have a good day?

My point is if a business is doing something like accepting Apple Pay and that’s something I want then I’m going to go to that business. Sure those businesses are doing it as PR to attract customers and not out of the love of their hearts, but I really don’t care because they give me something I want and I give them something they want.

Walmart is so big and a monopoly in many places so you’re right they don’t pretend to care. They don’t need to attract customers because it’s not like people are going someplace else. They know most people will put up with whatever they dish out at them if their prices are slightly cheaper. I know people to absolutely hate Walmart but shop there because they save a few dollars and it’s convenient to have everything at one store.
 
But there has been surprising blowback to Walmart in some areas of the country. It's surprising when it happens.
I haven’t seen this yet. There’s not really a store that’s comparable to Walmart. Most of the smaller stores have been put out of business by Walmart so they don’t have much competition. We have target and that has a few similar things but it’s not the same when it comes to size and selection. I still go there if I know they have something I need instead of Walmart. There’s also places like hardware, stores or grocery stores that would have some of the items but you wouldn’t make your whole shopping list in one stop. I personally try to go to these other stores rather than getting everything at Walmart when possible but I don’t think most people care. They have been conditioned to be treated that way, so they really don’t notice or care.
 
Every once in a while, I run into a place that takes Apple Pay, but to get it to work, you have to scan some QR code first. I find it to be cumbersome and lame.

I think such places are all Square or Clover-based, and don't have real cc terminals.
I don’t mind the QR code at some places. I believe that’s what Cracker Barrel (a popular restaurant) has here. They put a code on the receipt and I think it’s a QR code. It takes you to the website where it shows your total and then you can just pay with Apple Pay. It’s an extra step, but it’s still as secure and you can pay without leaving your table, so no waiting in line.

At a store I would prefer regular contactless Apple Pay. I really don’t trust QR code based payment systems like Walmart has. Target implemented this a while back and it was a security failure. They had to pay victims of this breach but I’m sure they didn’t get back everything they lost. I suspect Walmart did a better job securing their systems, but it’s not comparable to Apple Pay when it comes to security.
 
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Walmart in the United States WILL NEVER open Apple Pay and other contactless payments in 2030 or 2040. Remember, you are talking about Walmart, the#1 retailer in the US, in the US economy, and in the WHOLE WORLD! They have almost FULL CONTROL of the US people to buy their products!

For card payments by mobile phone to pay in a Walmart US store, all Walmart has to do is promote their Walmart Pay. Walmart Pay has positive support from most US consumers.

Walmart US can stop the support of Apple Pay and other contactless payments all the way they want to if it is 2030, 2040, or 2050! They STILL WILL NOT lose support from US consumers!
 
Walmart in the United States WILL NEVER open Apple Pay and other contactless payments in 2030 or 2040. Remember, you are talking about Walmart, the#1 retailer in the US, in the US economy, and in the WHOLE WORLD! They have almost FULL CONTROL of the US people to buy their products!

For card payments by mobile phone to pay in a Walmart US store, all Walmart has to do is promote their Walmart Pay. Walmart Pay has positive support from most US consumers.

Walmart US can stop the support of Apple Pay and other contactless payments all the way they want to if it is 2030, 2040, or 2050! They STILL WILL NOT lose support from US consumers!
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. US consumers will put up with anything to save a few pennies. The Walmart near me has water pouring down from the ceiling when it’s raining and buckets everywhere to catch it and people act like it’s normal
 
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Unfortunately I have to agree with you. US consumers will put up with anything to save a few pennies. The Walmart near me has water pouring down from the ceiling when it’s raining and buckets everywhere to catch it and people act like it’s normal
That may be true for every other American. I am at least one American who avoids Walmart, in part due to lack of Apple Pay support.
 
That may be true for every other American. I am at least one American who avoids Walmart, in part due to lack of Apple Pay support.
I also specifically go out of my way to not shop at Walmart (Or Amazon, for that matter) but you and I and everyone else who doesn't patronize them are such a small minority that we might as well be a rounding error in their finances. We don't matter to them, and will not affect their business choices. It would take quite a large group to stop shopping there for them to pay attention and care, and considering that in many places they are the only game in town it's just never going to happen.
 
The drama. The Walmart by my house is nice and clean. PEOPLE shop there.

I buy some things there and I save good money that I can spend on tother things, like over priced RAM or SSD upgrades to my Mac’s since they are not user upgradable.

The first world arrogance of this thread is sad. It is why some people do not like Apple, not because of Apple, but because of the Apple fans.
 
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The drama. The Walmart by my house is nice and clean. PEOPLE shop there.

I buy some things there and I save good money that I can spend on tother things, like over priced RAM or SSD upgrades to my Mac’s since they are not user upgradable.

The first world arrogance of this thread is sad. It is why some people do not like Apple, not because of Apple, but because of the Apple fans.
Hit.Nail.Directly.On.Head
 
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Lol. Where's your data to back this up? Weren't they the largest retailer before Apple Pay even existed? I would never use Walmart Pay.
The US consumers who shop at Walmart and use Walmart Pay. I use Walmart Pay every time I shop at Walmart. It's convenient and it takes a couple of seconds to complete the transaction. The receipt shows up on my phone immediately.
 
Walmart in the United States WILL NEVER open Apple Pay and other contactless payments in 2030 or 2040. Remember, you are talking about Walmart, the#1 retailer in the US, in the US economy, and in the WHOLE WORLD! They have almost FULL CONTROL of the US people to buy their products!

For card payments by mobile phone to pay in a Walmart US store, all Walmart has to do is promote their Walmart Pay. Walmart Pay has positive support from most US consumers.

Walmart US can stop the support of Apple Pay and other contactless payments all the way they want to if it is 2030, 2040, or 2050! They STILL WILL NOT lose support from US consumers!

I think it's still going to be a PR headache when they're the only retailer without contactless, even if they do effectively have a monopoly in certain parts of the country.

Additionally, if Walmart does manage to hold back contactless adoption, I can see Visa and MC offering incentives in exchange for turning it on. After all, high interchange is already getting blamed for low uptake of Apple Pay support for transit, so offering lower interchange for tapping (even if it's only like 0.5% lower or something) might help bring it to more than just Walmart.
 
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The only way to show Walmart or any company your disapproval of what they’re doing is to not shop there If enough people follow this suggestion than the power is with the people and things happen

Not with Walmart. They’re so huge that no number of people staying away from their stores will ever be enough to make them budge. Only a card network mandate might.
 
Absolutely true, and just as absolutely not going to happen. And Walmart absolutely knows this.

Walmart is huge. No amount of people who stop shopping at walmart will ever be enough to make them budge. Maybe a card network mandate would make them budge by cornering them between enabling nfc or not taking cards at all, but the consumers certainly won’t. Not Walmart.
 
Absolutely true, and just as absolutely not going to happen. And Walmart absolutely knows this.

Walmart is huge. No amount of people who stop shopping at walmart will ever be enough to make them budge. Maybe a card network mandate would make them budge by cornering them between enabling nfc or not taking cards at all, but the consumers certainly won’t. Not Walmart.
 
I also specifically go out of my way to not shop at Walmart (Or Amazon, for that matter) but you and I and everyone else who doesn't patronize them are such a small minority that we might as well be a rounding error in their finances. We don't matter to them, and will not affect their business choices. It would take quite a large group to stop shopping there for them to pay attention and care, and considering that in many places they are the only game in town it's just never going to happen.

Not even a large group. No way consumers will ever make walmart budge. Only a card network mandate will, if that ever happens in the US (it’s already in place elsewhere).
 
The drama. The Walmart by my house is nice and clean. PEOPLE shop there.

I buy some things there and I save good money that I can spend on tother things, like over priced RAM or SSD upgrades to my Mac’s since they are not user upgradable.

The first world arrogance of this thread is sad. It is why some people do not like Apple, not because of Apple, but because of the Apple fans.
I'm confused about your post? Perhaps the Walmart by your house is clean, but the one near me is not. These both can be true. I can only talk about my experience with the Walmart near me. I've heard some of the Walmart stores are quite nice.


Also, I'm confused about what you're calling first world arrogance? Are you implying that some people said Walmart was dirty that that's first world arrogance? I've been to many developing countries where their shops were clean.

My comment for example saying Walmart has a leaky roof is I think is appropriate. If some shop in the developing country has a leaking roof is understandable because the owner cannot afford to fix it. Walmart is a multi billion dollar company so they should not have the same problem. There is no excuse for them to have stores with leaking roofs other than them just trying to squeeze every penny out.

Maybe you're talking about people wanting Apple Pay as being first world arrogant? I don't see that one either because the USA as a “first world” country is behind many developing countries when it comes to contactless payment. We are not first world in that category.
 
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