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I use the Siri Face on my Series 4 - I miss the Dock as Widgets don't work with the Siri face :(
 
Not sure if I’m missing something but to view download music on the watch all you need to do is click the back button the select library and then downloaded. You don’t need to go into any airplay menu.

That will then show you downloaded music on your iPhone. I'm not joking.

So what happens is when you play music on your iPhone your Watch now switches the whole app to mirror what is on your iPhone. You can then select and control music on your iPhone via your Watch while you listen though AirPods for example, all good.

But when you stop listening the app still mirrors your iPhone. So say I'm going out on a run I don't know what is downloaded to the watch or not, and it will start playing music via your iPhone. So I need to tell it I want to play directly from the watch.

A good way of doing this would be to have say a toggle at the top of the main menu, or some sort of master menu, where you can select the source. But instead you have to go digging around the Now Playing and AirPlay menus to switch the source to the Watch. And I have to do this every time. It's about 6 taps to get there and completely undiscoverable.
 
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Yesterday I was without my iPhone and I noticed very low volume during calls on Watch Ultra. Even if I maximize volume with crown.
Whats your call volume on Watch?
 
That will then show you downloaded music on your iPhone. I'm not joking.

So what happens is when you play music on your iPhone your Watch now switches the whole app to mirror what is on your iPhone. You can then select and control music on your iPhone via your Watch while you listen though AirPods for example, all good.

But when you stop listening the app still mirrors your iPhone. So say I'm going out on a run I don't know what is downloaded to the watch or not, and it will start playing music via your iPhone. So I need to tell it I want to play directly from the watch.

A good way of doing this would be to have say a toggle at the top of the main menu, or some sort of master menu, where you can select the source. But instead you have to go digging around the Now Playing and AirPlay menus to switch the source to the Watch. And I have to do this every time. It's about 6 taps to get there and completely undiscoverable.
Not sure if this is just you but it’s not how it works for me. I have downloaded playlists and albums to my watch (also lots of podcasts) and when I’m out without my phone all I have to do is what I explained above. I don’t get anything that’s downloaded to my phone showing up.
 
Not sure if this is just you but it’s not how it works for me. I have downloaded playlists and albums to my watch (also lots of podcasts) and when I’m out without my phone all I have to do is what I explained above. I don’t get anything that’s downloaded to my phone showing up.
I think he means if you are at home and then leave (with your phone left behind)?

Something similar happened to me listening to a podcast. I was listening to one, paused it, put on shoes etc then about 10 mins later was walking and thought I would continue it. All sorts of fun and games to get to it.
 
I like a lot of it just the strange changes to Music and Timer which are bugging me.

It genuinely took me weeks to figure out how to play music downloaded to my watch. It shouldn’t be that hard for such a basic function.

Music needs to have a master menu which allows you to select On Watch or On iPhone not the crazy set up they’ve got at the moment where you need to dig through the AirPlay menus. It was perfectly fine before.

The Music app is terrible to navigate, as well as Music on phone or watch, I can no longer find options to shuffle music. Maybe it’s there but it’s not easy to find!

Also annoyed that the weekly fitness totals have gone, the replacement is half baked.
 
My battery life on the newest Public Beta seems to be the best by far. Put my Ultra on last night full charged up and tracked sleep - woke up 6.30 AM with around 92% (already way better than previous beta) and ran a 10K to work and now 11 AM still 78% battery life. That's almost closing in on WatchOS 9 from when I got the watch.
 
Not sure what I am doing wrong but I don’t see the beta option on my watch. I tried the hard reset on my phone but that didn’t work. Toggled automatic updates on and off- still nothing. It’s a series 8 model. Any suggestions?

Never mind… reboot of watch fixed. Should have done that prior to posting. My ADD got the better of me
 
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Music needs to have a master menu which allows you to select On Watch or On iPhone not the crazy set up they’ve got at the moment where you need to dig through the AirPlay menus. It was perfectly fine before.

SPOT ON!! You could not have described the chaos we have and have had to play music on the watch any better!
 
For anyone wondering how to browse and play music that's stored on your Watch you go to Now Playing (top right) then press the AirPlay icon, then scroll to the bottom and press "Control Other Speakers and TVs", then press Apple Watch, then close all the menus and you can then select what you want to play.

This has to be one of the most unintuitive UI changes I've ever seen
I am not sure anything has changed, it has always been chaos.
 
Not sure if this is just you but it’s not how it works for me. I have downloaded playlists and albums to my watch (also lots of podcasts) and when I’m out without my phone all I have to do is what I explained above. I don’t get anything that’s downloaded to my phone showing up.

I think he means if you are at home and then leave (with your phone left behind)?

Something similar happened to me listening to a podcast. I was listening to one, paused it, put on shoes etc then about 10 mins later was walking and thought I would continue it. All sorts of fun and games to get to it.

What they seem to have gone for is an auto switching solution, so when your phones with you it mirrors your iPhone and when you leave your phone behind it shows you what's on the watch. Yes that works. But a lot of the time I'm within distance of my phone when I want to start playing something from my watch and then you have to do the acrobatics in the AirPlay menus I described. It's also hard to know if your looking at music on your phone or watch sometimes.


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The previous WatchOS (on the left) had a button saying what the source was at the top of the main menu. This made it clear what source you were looking at, and also made it easy to switch. WatchOS 10 (on the right) however loses this. Can you tell if you're browsing/controlling music on your Watch or iPhone from that menu? They need to bring it back.
 
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For the alerts you can turn on and off notifications from the Apple Watch app for each app.
The random order is based on use and time of day I believe. You can pin, remove or add others if you want to change them around.
Notifications from news works differently. But the Pinning and Removing is the answer. Thanks!
 
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What they seem to have gone for is an auto switching solution, so when your phones with you it mirrors your iPhone and when you leave your phone behind it shows you what's on the watch. Yes that works. But a lot of the time I'm within distance of my phone when I want to start playing something from my watch and then you have to do the acrobatics in the AirPlay menus I described. It's also hard to know if your looking at music on your phone or watch sometimes.


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The previous WatchOS (on the left) had a button saying what the source was at the top of the main menu. This made it clear what source you were looking at, and also made it easy to switch. WatchOS 10 (on the right) however loses this. Can you tell if you're browsing/controlling music on your Watch or iPhone from that menu? They need to bring it back.
Again you don’t need to go into any AirPlay menu to see music that’s on your watch.
All you have to do is click on the library button (in your screenshot on the watch) then click Downloaded. What you see then is only the music downloaded to the watch. I’ve just done this even with my phone next to me and connected.
 
Again you don’t need to go into any AirPlay menu to see music that’s on your watch.
All you have to do is click on the library button (in your screenshot on the watch) then click Downloaded. What you see then is only the music downloaded to the watch. I’ve just done this even with my phone next to me and connected.

And I’ve done exactly the same and it just shows me what’s downloaded on my iPhone.
 
I think he means if you are at home and then leave (with your phone left behind)?

Something similar happened to me listening to a podcast. I was listening to one, paused it, put on shoes etc then about 10 mins later was walking and thought I would continue it. All sorts of fun and games to get to it.
I’ve had an awful experience with the podcasts app. Heading out for a bike ride yesterday and had a similar issue with podcasts to what is described with music. When the podcast finished I had zero control about the one that played next! The menus are awful. Is there a way to download a podcast over cellular on the watch anymore? And don’t get me started on changing AirPods from noise cancellation to transparency mode! Maybe it’s me …
 
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New for me on B8 - with the airplane mode setting set to mirror iPhone I can activate airplane mode on my phone via the watch but I am unable to turn off airplane mode on the phone via watch. In fact I have to turn airplane mode off manually on each device separately as turning it off on the phone doesn’t affect the watch either. I have toggled the setting on/off, reset each device etc no luck
 
Again you don’t need to go into any AirPlay menu to see music that’s on your watch.
All you have to do is click on the library button (in your screenshot on the watch) then click Downloaded. What you see then is only the music downloaded to the watch. I’ve just done this even with my phone next to me and connected.
Same for me.
 
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Eventually found the Shuffle option on Music but it’s hidden away.

Also what is the point of an x to exit a screen. Should be a back button.
 
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Crazy issue with my Ultra running the latest WatchOS 10 Beta 8. I was kayaking in a lake turned on the water mode before getting in. My kayak took on water. Later I attempted to turn off the water mode with the new motion of pressing the crown, it did not work. So I did a force restart of the watch it restarted but stil couldn’t turn off the water lock. I restarted again and now my Ultra is stuck at the  logo fleshing on and off. Unable to move past this.

So I texted Apple support, they are sending a replacement watch via Express AppleCare. They better not charge me, the Watch should be able to handle being in the water if you have the water lock on.

I think it’s the beta software and not a water issue, any thoughts?
 
They better not charge me, the Watch should be able to handle being in the water if you have the water lock on.
The watch should handle it regardless since it’s not a lock to prevent water from getting in. The lock just disables the touch function of the display and expells water after you disable it. The watch is no more or less waterproof if the lock is active.
 
Series 8 Latest developer beta.

Anyone else’s Find My functionality on the latest Beta completely redundant? I can find my watch from my phone, but none of my other Apple Devices show up in the find devices on the watch, nor the find friends function.

I have used it previously and as you’d expect my other devices would show up, along with my friend who’s sharing location with me. But on the latest beta, nothing shows up.

Weirdly though, the AirTag I have linked to my iPhone’s find my shows up.

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