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Kylo83

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HDR does not necessarily mean brighter content. It means 64 times as many colors, and that is where HDR excels. SDR is 8-bit color. That is (2^8)^3=16.7 million colors. HDR is 10-bit color. That is (2^10)^3=1.07 billion colors. HDR can also provide truer blacks. But the difference is basically in the greatly increased number of colors. The M1 iPad has no issue displaying HDR, nor does my iPad Air 2020. No device can make a crap show or movie that was filmed too dark look great.
On YouTube hdr video looks amazing and bright but on the tv shows they are dull and dark I don’t get other saying it’s ok; the hdr isn’t working on the iPad it isn’t increasing the nits only on YouTube
 

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I don’t like cinema mode that’s to dark for me I use standard with it all tuned for me, I like the image to be bright, cinema mode makes it all dark

That explains it. You like your picture enhanced, brighter than what the director intended. One thing to check is whether your TV is correctly calibrated.

Unfortunately that is not an option on an IPad as far as I know. Increasing brightness levels doesn't seem to change things much. I guess you could say it is stuck in Cinema mode.

It may have to do with the way Apple boasts of the quality of the display. If movies had inauthentic colors and/or brightness they would get a lot of flack. People would start screaming "screengate".
 
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I guess the new iPad is not for you... or perhaps, you are not worthy of having it, as you don't seem to appreciate the quality and right brightness and colour balance that is automatically set by the iPad. I have watch a lot of content in Apple TV and Disney+ and I've never experienced such good quality in my life ever before. I don't own an OLED TV (perhaps that's what you're looking for?), but my iPad Pro M1 12.9 is far superior than my Ultra-fine LG screen and I love it. - Btw, content in Youtube looks good, but not as good as Disney+ or Apple TV... and without spacial audio, it's not as engaging...
 

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It seems the OP is used to watching this in what is usually a vastly inaccurate picture mode on his OLED(Standard) where colors are oversaturated and highlights are blown out beyond creator's intent and doesn't like the accurate picture produced by the iPad. There also appears to be a misconception about how HDR and brightness works. Just because something is in HDR doesn't mean the display is going to pump out 1600 nits for the whole show.

Nothing to see here. There have been plenty of people who have said how fantastic HDR is on this screen. Those people obviously enjoy an accurately calibrated picture which is what the iPad is going to give you. HDR in general does appear dimmer than SDR but that's due to it having greater dynamic range -- the dark part of scenes will be more realistically dim while the highlights will get that peak 1600 nits brightness - think explosions and bright sun. In general, HDR will give a more 'true to life' look than SDR.
 
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Kylo83

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That explains it. You like your picture enhanced, brighter than what the director intended. One thing to check is whether your TV is correctly calibrated.

Unfortunately that is not an option on an IPad as far as I know. Increasing brightness levels doesn't seem to change things much. I guess you could say it is stuck in Cinema mode.

It may have to do with the way Apple boasts of the quality of the display. If movies had inauthentic colors and/or brightness they would get a lot of flack. People would start screaming "screengate".
No that’s wrong I watch hdtv and learned to config it my self, cinema mode is not what the director wants it’s a gimmick on TVs films should pop the 4k blu ray
It seems the OP is used to watching this in what is usually a vastly inaccurate picture mode on his OLED(Standard) where colors are oversaturated and highlights are blown out beyond creator's intent and doesn't like the accurate picture produced by the iPad. There also appears to be a misconception about how HDR and brightness works. Just because something is in HDR doesn't mean the display is going to pump out 1600 nits for the whole show.

Nothing to see here. There have been plenty of people who have said how fantastic HDR is on this screen. Those people obviously enjoy an accurately calibrated picture which is what the iPad is going to give you. HDR in general does appear dimmer than SDR but that's due to it having greater dynamic range -- the dark part of scenes will be more realistically dim while the highlights will get that peak 1600 nits brightness - think explosions and bright sun.
What you on about lol
It seems the OP is used to watching this in what is usually a vastly inaccurate picture mode on his OLED(Standard) where colors are oversaturated and highlights are blown out beyond creator's intent and doesn't like the accurate picture produced by the iPad. There also appears to be a misconception about how HDR and brightness works. Just because something is in HDR doesn't mean the display is going to pump out 1600 nits for the whole show.

Nothing to see here. There have been plenty of people who have said how fantastic HDR is on this screen. Those people obviously enjoy an accurately calibrated picture which is what the iPad is going to give you. HDR in general does appear dimmer than SDR but that's due to it having greater dynamic range -- the dark part of scenes will be more realistically dim while the highlights will get that peak 1600 nits brightness - think explosions and bright sun. In general, HDR will give a more 'true to life' look than SDR.
what you on about many have agreed, why would a trailer on YouTube in hdr looks incredible and the show look dull and dark, don’t tell me I don’t know how to config my tv, I been using Oled TVs since day one, this iPad is only good for watching hdr on YouTube
 

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I guess the new iPad is not for you... or perhaps, you are not worthy of having it, as you don't seem to appreciate the quality and right brightness and colour balance that is automatically set by the iPad. I have watch a lot of content in Apple TV and Disney+ and I've never experienced such good quality in my life ever before. I don't own an OLED TV (perhaps that's what you're looking for?), but my iPad Pro M1 12.9 is far superior than my Ultra-fine LG screen and I love it. - Btw, content in Youtube looks good, but not as good as Disney+ or Apple TV... and without spacial audio, it's not as engaging...
But watching shows on Disney plus is dark Loki was horrible it’s not how it should be like I said hdr isn’t working well on anything apart from YouTube even infuse reached out to me after I said a hdr 4k rip is so dark and not getting the extra brightness they said there is an issue and they are working on an update
 

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No that’s wrong I watch hdtv and learned to config it my self, cinema mode is not what the director wants it’s a gimmick on TVs films should pop the 4k blu ray

What you on about lol

what you on about many have agreed, why would a trailer on YouTube in hdr looks incredible and the show look dull and dark, don’t tell me I don’t know how to config my tv, I been using Oled TVs since day one, this iPad is only good for watching hdr on YouTube
If you're using Standard picture mode on your OLED you do not know how to set your TV for accuracy. I'm going to tell you that because it's a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
 

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It’s not exactly the iPad even the iPhone is bad, playing Loki the scrubbing is bright how it should be but once it’s playing it’s so dark you can’t even see it, the issue is Dolby vision isn’t working on iPhones and iPads and it should
 

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If you're using Standard picture mode on your OLED you do not know how to set your TV for accuracy. I'm going to tell you that because it's a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
I changed every setting in standard so again don’t tell me I’m wrong not everyone wants cinema mode
 

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I changed every setting in standard so again don’t tell me I’m wrong not everyone wants cinema mode
Not everyone wants Cinema mode but that's similar to what the iPad is going to produce because it's the most accurate. You've been watching in an uncalibrated crap mode. Have a nice day. :)
 
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Kylo83

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For the people saying I’m talking bad this is a article from a while bad saying same thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/DisneyPlus/comments/jwv675
See what I mean there’s loads of people saying it, it’s not the new iPads fault but Disney plus app and apples own one anything with Dolby vision isn’t playing right, go watch Loki on your iPhone and scrub and see the correct colour then play it and see how dark it is, the mini led I thought would fix this but it seems it’s the apps fault but can’t beleive apples own one is as bad
 

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someone told me to do something and it changes everything is you might believe me try this now and let me know, watch Disney plus loki even on iPhone Oled and max brightness so how dark it is then use Siri and say low power mode on and the image goes way brighter, there is deff an issue, with low power mode it’s better then turn low power mode off and see what I mean
 

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please explain why Dolby vision is dark on Disney plus on iPhone and iPad and with low power mode on its much brighter that doesn’t make sense to me
 

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please explain why Dolby vision is dark on Disney plus on iPhone and iPad and with low power mode on its much brighter that doesn’t make sense to me
Low power mode might be disabling HDR (which uses more data and I would suspect more battery) and an SDR picture will always be brighter because there's less dynamic range.
 

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Low power mode might be disabling HDR (which uses more data and I would suspect more battery) and an SDR picture will always be brighter because there's less dynamic range.
But plz understand there is an issue I know about hdr etc but it’s to dark watch Loki even the scrubbing is normal then it goes so dark; it can’t be how the director wants it, you can’t even see anything, I think there is an issue with hdr on the apps
 

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But plz understand there is an issue I know about hdr etc but it’s to dark watch Loki even the scrubbing is normal then it goes so dark; it can’t be how the director wants it, you can’t even see anything, I think there is an issue with hdr on the apps

You have raised this as an issue with Apple right?
 

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But plz understand there is an issue I know about hdr etc but it’s to dark watch Loki even the scrubbing is normal then it goes so dark; it can’t be how the director wants it, you can’t even see anything, I think there is an issue with hdr on the apps

HDR on properly calibrated devices will be “dark” for a lot of content. It is meant to be watched in a pitch black room with a display that can show the high dynamic range they want to show. If that is done you have no problem seeing things but I agree that with light around it can be hard to see things.

I see no differences between a properly calibrated OLED and my iPad Pro when it comes to this.
 
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HDR on properly calibrated devices will be “dark” for a lot of content. It is meant to be watched in a pitch black room with a display that can show the high dynamic range they want to show. If that is done you have no problem seeing things but I agree that with light around it can be hard to see things.

I see no differences between a properly calibrated OLED and my iPad Pro when it comes to this.

Your post made me slap my forehead - I was comparing my 12.9" iPad Apple TV display in a bright room to a 55" 4K TV in a dark room. Besides the disparity in display conditions, the screen size will also make a difference in overall brightness of dark scenes.
 

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People won’t understand but there is an issue no one can enjoy dark content hdr is not meant to make the picture so much darker the whole idea of mini led is spose to increase the nits for hdr as needed but it’s not doing it, so having a nice display just for YouTube videos is wrong; low power mode makes the image look normal that’s strange, Dolby vision has many problems and ruins a lot on mobile devices like I said watch loki on your iPhone and tell me it’s good to watch then put low power mode on and see what changes
 

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People won’t understand but there is an issue no one can enjoy dark content hdr is not meant to make the picture so much darker the whole idea of mini led is spose to increase the nits for hdr as needed but it’s not doing it, so having a nice display just for YouTube videos is wrong; low power mode makes the image look normal that’s strange, Dolby vision has many problems and ruins a lot on mobile devices like I said watch loki on your iPhone and tell me it’s good to watch then put low power mode on and see what changes

Having the picture overall brighter is not what HDR is made for, it is made to have a higher dynamic range (as the name suggests). A higher dynamic range means you can have the scenes be darker when needed to properly reflect the lighting conditions in the scene and still have objects with bright light in those scenes. SDR on the other hand just makes it all flat and equal.

I just tried Loki on my Mini-LED iPad Pro and now in daylight it is very dark yes, which is the same on my OLED TV that has decently calibrated settings. Watching HDR content in daylight is near impossible on it, that is not what it is for. If I move to a dark room it looks great on the Mini-LED.
 
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Kylo83

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Having the picture overall brighter is not what HDR is made for, it is made to have a higher dynamic range (as the name suggests). A higher dynamic range means you can have the scenes be darker when needed to properly reflect the lighting conditions in the scene and still have objects with bright light in those scenes. SDR on the other hand just makes it all flat and equal.

I just tried Loki on my Mini-LED iPad Pro and now in daylight it is very dark yes, which is the same on my OLED TV that has decently calibrated settings. Watching HDR content in daylight is near impossible on it, that is not what it is for. If I move to a dark room it looks great on the Mini-LED.
Put low power mode on and it’s much better, your wrong it’s not made only for dark rooms, mini led should increase nits for hdr but the app doesn’t allow it
 

Kylo83

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Having the picture overall brighter is not what HDR is made for, it is made to have a higher dynamic range (as the name suggests). A higher dynamic range means you can have the scenes be darker when needed to properly reflect the lighting conditions in the scene and still have objects with bright light in those scenes. SDR on the other hand just makes it all flat and equal.

I just tried Loki on my Mini-LED iPad Pro and now in daylight it is very dark yes, which is the same on my OLED TV that has decently calibrated settings. Watching HDR content in daylight is near impossible on it, that is not what it is for. If I move to a dark room it looks great on the Mini-LED.
So why does YouTube hdr look incredible, Dolby vision is the problem
 

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Put low power mode on and it’s much better, your wrong it’s not made only for dark rooms, mini led should increase nits for hdr but the app doesn’t allow it

It’s not better, it is overall brighter because there’s less dynamic range but that is not better. You don’t seem to understand what HDR is and what it is made for if you think HDR should just increase the brightness. And the movies and shows that come in HDR are very much colour corrected to be viewed in dark rooms.

So why does YouTube hdr look incredible, Dolby vision is the problem

I think Dolby Vision looks incredible as well so I don’t see you point. Much of the HDR you see on YouTube is made to be high contrast bright content to shock you which is clearly different from what the directors want when they are making a movie. They could make movies to look like that of course but it wouldn’t be cinematic at all.
 
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