Does it even truly multi task though? I thought iOS froze apps when they are backgrounded. I'm not a dev though so don't know specifically how this works.
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We Mostly Use Google Apps Anyway, Why Not Get the Google Pixel?
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Does it even truly multi task though? I thought iOS froze apps when they are backgrounded. I'm not a dev though so don't know specifically how this works.
I'm not sure because my only Android experience at the moment is with Samsung, but as far as I know a press and hold on an icon or widget lets you move it.
For one, you can use google's services but not their apps. I watch YouTube, but through the ProTube app. I use gmail, but read them through 3rd party email apps such as airmail and outlook. I use Apple Maps exclusively. Don't even bother installing google maps as a backup. Using Apple Music. Until google keyboard is available outside of the US, can't try it even if I wanted to.
Second is choice. On iOS, I get google's offering plus Apple's. I have both google drive and iCloud. I have both maps and google maps. I have both safari and chrome. I listen to podcasts on Overcast. Android might have good apps, but iOS will always be home to the best apps.
How's that for choice?
Second is choice. On iOS, I get google's offering plus Apple's. I have both google drive and iCloud. I have both maps and google maps. I have both safari and chrome. I listen to podcasts on Overcast. Android might have good apps, but iOS will always be home to the best apps.
How's that for choice?
I think the Pixel is a nice first step, but I won't switch for the following reasons:
1. Only 2 years maximum of updates. Um, for a $650+ phone? No.
2. Speaking of 1, have you ever tried to run a current Android build on an older phone, even a Nexus? I have. It's pretty bad.
3. Google has a reputation for creating things, then letting them wither and die on the vine. There's no guarantee the Pixel will be any different from Glass, for example. And how many messaging apps have appeared in the last few years? Allo is the new hot thing, but before that was Hangouts, then before that was SMS integration with Voice, then the basic Messenger app, etc...
1. Only 2 years maximum of updates. Um, for a $650+ phone? No.
2. Speaking of 1, have you ever tried to run a current Android build on an older phone, even a Nexus? I have. It's pretty bad.
3. Google has a reputation for creating things, then letting them wither and die on the vine. There's no guarantee the Pixel will be any different from Glass, for example. And how many messaging apps have appeared in the last few years? Allo is the new hot thing, but before that was Hangouts, then before that was SMS integration with Voice, then the basic Messenger app, etc...
To play Devil's Advocate for just a second... (and to be clear, I've owned every iPhone release and used an iPhone as my daily driver for all but about 9-10 months since the original iPhone. Most of my other tech is also from Apple)
1). Fair point, especially if you keep your phones for more than 2 years. Many don't and I'd wager most on these forums don't. Also, you are guaranteed Security Updates for 3 years, I believe. If you are hoping for more on the Android side, you won't find it anywhere else.
2). Have you ever tried running a current version of iOS on anything older than 2 year old hardware? It's often just as bad.
3). See this arguement a lot but its funny how the opposite is never brought up. Who provides the most widely used email service and how long has it been around? Same question regarding maps applications. And internet searches? Who's OS is now on more than 50% of the computers in Education in the US? Hint---all from the same company. Apple has some current products 'languishing' on the vine (not dead yet)--hope you haven't been holding your breath for an updated Mac Mini or Mac Pro.
Point is, every company has some failures (even the almighty Apple
--how's MobileMe, Ping, and the Apple HiFi working out for you) and for a company like Google who tries a lot more than just about everyone else, there are going to be some misses. But it's had some of the internet age's biggest hits as well.The Pixel doesn't offer the pinnacle of mobile hardware and is certainly far from a sure fire homerun but IMO, it's a huge step forward for Android. I'm expecting my XL to be delivered next week and it's the most excited I've been for a new piece of tech in quite a while.
So, since Apple just updated it, doesn't that mean people won't be leaving iMessage? It's really a bit difficult to follow your logic....
I will confess I didn't take the time to read any of this thread (why bother)
Just wanted to say, I don't use any of that stuff you mentioned
I don't use Google's keyboard, never even thought about it
I don't use YouTube on my phone at all, ever
I don't use the Chrome app, I use Safari on my phone when I use anything at all
I use Waze for maps, which I guess is technically Google, but not what you mentioned
I don't use either Google music or Apple music
It isn't that I dislike Google at all, I use Chrome on my Mac and have a Gmail account or two (or more)
It's just that your assumptions are hardly representative of everyone
To play Devil's Advocate for just a second... (and to be clear, I've owned every iPhone release and used an iPhone as my daily driver for all but about 9-10 months since the original iPhone. Most of my other tech is also from Apple)
1). Fair point, especially if you keep your phones for more than 2 years. Many don't and I'd wager most on these forums don't. Also, you are guaranteed Security Updates for 3 years, I believe. If you are hoping for more on the Android side, you won't find it anywhere else.
2). Have you ever tried running a current version of iOS on anything older than 2 year old hardware? It's often just as bad.
3). See this arguement a lot but its funny how the opposite is never brought up. Who provides the most widely used email service and how long has it been around? Same question regarding maps applications. And internet searches? Who's OS is now on more than 50% of the computers in Education in the US? Hint---all from the same company. Apple has some current products 'languishing' on the vine (not dead yet)--hope you haven't been holding your breath for an updated Mac Mini or Mac Pro.
Point is, every company has some failures (even the almighty Apple
The Pixel doesn't offer the pinnacle of mobile hardware and is certainly far from a sure fire homerun but IMO, it's a huge step forward for Android. I'm expecting my XL to be delivered next week and it's the most excited I've been for a new piece of tech in quite a while.
I think you raised some legit counterarguments. Like I wrote, I think the Pixel is a good first step. I expect the third iteration will be quite the device.
While it's true search, maps, gmail are all successes, and it's true Apple has had some failures, I personally think google has had a higher ratio of failures (or rather things they just bail on) vs. successes. I haven't mentioned Plus (not dead yet, but effectively so), Reader, Buzz, Wave or the drone delivery service. I think the observation that google "tries a lot more than just about everyone else" is particularly apt. They indeed do. That's exactly why I personally feel new offerings from them should be met with perhaps less benefit of the doubt. It often seems to me they adopt a kitchen sink approach. I concede some great innovations could emerge from that attitude and it can be exciting. Speaking as a potential consumer as opposed to a mere disinterested observer, however, I'm a little skeptical.
I should also say I use fi as a secondary service -- one of their 'pie in the sky' endeavors -- and am relatively satisfied with it.
Apple have the perfect phone, not Google
"We're using Google Play Music... while we delete the iPhone's Music app" LMAO
Actually, I'll give him that. Google Play >>> Apple Music.
Google Play and their little Chrome audio cast thing are awesome.
but they havn't gone downhill at all.
It's still the best user experience i can get on a device for my needs at least. It syncs perfectly with my devices. What google tablet could compare to an ipad? none right now.
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they really weren't.
I don't think you're completely off. However I also use a MacBook Pro, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV. There are aspects of that which represent a higher priority than being strictly immersed in the Google-verse.
However I think it's important to fully utilize Google services across the board where possible for the best experience.
Agreed. IF you in fact use all google services, as described in the first post, then sure, the Pixel looks like a good choice. But that's a big "if." Personally, I use quite a few different services across different companies (apple, google, microsoft, dropbox, pandora, and so forth) but probably more icloud/apple than anything else.
Yes I believe it does freeze them, I was being extra kind in my reply, but it does still run some things in the background like email or imessage kind off? I think?
it is not to keep the app fully alive, it is just to get updates (new content e.g. getting mails, messages, etc...).
Apps that are designed to stay running will stay running. And iOS still dominates in terms of resuming apps from the "frozen" state. Multi-tasking is still garbage, though.
there are always people who are stubborn to use anything google releated for several reasons... they have invested apple shares and want to protect their investment talking about that they would never ever get anything else than apple. then there are fanboys who are using googles services but always telling how bad they are, but still they are using them. etc.
but then there are the majority who use both systems as those systems offer the best experience for the user.
there is a reason i use gmail.
there is reason i use google drive.
there is a reason i use apple calender.
there is a reason i dont buy itunes content.
etc...
but then there are the majority who use both systems as those systems offer the best experience for the user.
there is a reason i use gmail.
there is reason i use google drive.
there is a reason i use apple calender.
there is a reason i dont buy itunes content.
etc...
There is no reason to use most google services on Apple devices. No reason that has weight that is. If i need a feature iCloud is lacking for example i will go to some small player and support him instead.
The included YouTube red subscription makes it a no brainer. What is the compelling advantage of Apple Music over google play?