Well, That Was Quick - Bored Already, Not Going To Keep Apple Music

[turbineseaplane]

If you enjoy Apple Music, use it. If you don't enjoy Apple Music, don't use it.

What's the problem? Options exist for a reason. I don't understand the back and forth with trying to prove the worth of either platform or medium and how it is better or worse than the other.

Just. do. you. It's a fairly simple concept really.

Didn't you hear?

Paco has decided that music streaming is shortly to become the only way in the UNIVERSE to ever again access music.....


...thus some of us became understandably concerned.

Fears that immediately subsided when I realized that anything happening on a forum is basically just minutes of life wasted with no basis on anything that actually happens or will happen.

 

[Dark Void]

music streaming is shortly to become the only way in the UNIVERSE to ever again access music.....

Whoever thinks this is widely misinformed.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Whoever thinks this is widely misinformed.

Send mail to: Paco II

 

[yg17]

Didn't you hear?

Paco has decided that music streaming is shortly to become the only way in the UNIVERSE to ever again access music.....


...thus some of us became understandably concerned.

Fears that immediately subsided when I realized that anything happening on a forum is basically just minutes of life wasted with no basis on anything that actually happens or will happen.

Yeah, streaming is awesome. I love not being able to listen to my music when Apple's servers **** the bed.

 

[whsbuss]

Yeah, streaming is awesome. I love not being able to listen to my music when Apple's servers **** the bed.

Which is why I keep a few short playlists (~20 songs) available offline.

 

[tonyr6]

I agree 90% of the music today is crap. I love music from the even earlier than the 70's 80's, 90's I stopped listening to anything newer than 2006 when it got all terrible which is proof as the last album I bought was Rhianna before she became a foul mouth vulgar rap garbage artist which makes up most of the trash today.

I guess the only new music I listen to is Smooth Jazz but I wonder how much of that is actually from this decade.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

I agree 90% of the music today is crap. I stopped listening to anything newer than 2006 when it got all terrible. I guess the only new music I listen to is Smooth Jazz.

I get depressed when each week, I preview the music featured on the iTunes front page. I make no discrimination, but dutifully listen to every album.

My poor ears. It doesn't matter if the album is rated 1 star or 5, it's almost all garbage or mediocrity. Classical music is an exception of course, but that's mostly dead composers.

Truly, I would be happy if most musicians today just stopped making music. There's no point when it's rubbish.

MEMO TO MUSICIANS: Only sell music if it's good.

 

[MentalFloss]

I agree 90% of the music today is crap. I love music from the even earlier than the 70's 80's, 90's I stopped listening to anything newer than 2006 when it got all terrible which is proof as the last album I bought was Rhianna before she became a foul mouth vulgar rap garbage artist which makes up most of the trash today.

I am also a music nostalgic, but honestly, also in the 70's, 80's, 90's and before, 90% of all music was crap. We just don't notice it anymore, because you can't purchase the crap anymore that only sold a few hundred copies.

I just created a playlist for R&B number ones starting in 1965, and when listening to it, I thought "Man, that was a great time for great music." But then I realized that I was only listening to the cream of the crop. Stevie Wonder's best, James Brown's best, etc.

Though I do have to admit that today's R&B number ones are indeed often unlisteneable. Kanye West? Seriously? But to me, that doesn't mean that the crap/non-crap ratio in released R&B music has really changed.

 

[tonyr6]

I agree. I believe the 80's was the best decade for music as I liked all the genies but I was a young kid then. Also I really enjoyed most of the music of the 90's except Hip Hop which I use to listen too back when Hot 97 in NYC slowly changed too but got real tired of all the negative music. I did enjoy the Dance, Pop, R&B from the 90's and I even liked some 90's Alternative.

Really everyone is right when I hit my 30's in 2007 anything after 2006 was real garbage and I stopped listening to any new Top 40 music or anything else. I did listen to EDM Trance music until recent but now Trance is not even Trance anymore but Dub Electro House crap which actually sounds just like the mainstream Top 40 so now even Trance music is only old stuff from last decade too.

 

[motulist]

I agree 90% of the music today is crap. I love music from the even earlier than the 70's 80's, 90's I stopped listening to anything newer than 2006 when it got all terrible which is proof as the last album I bought was Rhianna before she became a foul mouth vulgar rap garbage artist which makes up most of the trash today.

I guess the only new music I listen to is Smooth Jazz but I wonder how much of that is actually from this decade.

First, the large majority of music from ALL decades was crap, it's just that only the good stuff still gets played and is remembered in your mind, so that gives you the false impression that there used to be a lot more good music in previous times.

Second, if you haven't found any good music since 2006 then you just aren't looking and/or you aren't doing it in a good way. Here's just a few of my favs since 2006 (of course these are bands for my tastes, not yours):

Foxygen - https://itun.es/us/ZBxmG

The Fratellis - https://itun.es/us/RYyXe

Radio Moscow - https://itun.es/us/i1Bwm

 

[MentalFloss]

Yeah, streaming is awesome. I love not being able to listen to my music when Apple's servers **** the bed.

I can still listen to my music then, because I have my music available offline. The music that I stream from Apple is just borrowed. If I wanted to have it available always and forever, I would have bought and downloaded it.

 

[tonyr6]

I kind of agree. When I was a kid my parents and relatives use to say the current music was crap and was not music. But they said that there big band music (Grandparents) and 50's and 60's Rock and Roll (Parents) were music. I never understood why they did not listen to anything newer until I grew up and now realize the same thing.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

I am also a music nostalgic, but honestly, also in the 70's, 80's, 90's and before, 90% of all music was crap. We just don't notice it anymore, because you can't purchase the crap anymore that only sold a few hundred copies.

I just created a playlist for R&B number ones starting in 1965, and when listening to it, I thought "Man, that was a great time for great music." But then I realized that I was only listening to the cream of the crop. Stevie Wonder's best, James Brown's best, etc.

Though I do have to admit that today's R&B number ones are indeed often unlisteneable. Kanye West? Seriously? But to me, that doesn't mean that the crap/non-crap ratio in released R&B music has really changed.

You're right in a sense, in that most music created in any era is not great.

But the difference today is that the overall level of quality has plunged dramatically, so that it's more like 99.99% of music is crap or mediocre, as opposed to 90% of yesteryear's music.

 

[MentalFloss]

I agree. I believe the 80's was the best decade for music as I liked all the genies but I was a young kid then.

There is a strong relation there. I believe everyone loves the music that was popular when they were in their early teens. It simply gets stuck in our minds. Today's teenagers will be nostalgic about Rihanna and Taylor Swift someday and complain about how all contemporary music sucks.

I am also a kid of the 80's, so I have a strong affinity for most of the stuff from that time. Then the 90's came, and I remember how me and my friends felt that Nirvana was pretentious, pseudo-intellectual crap (Al Yankovic really captured that aspect perfectly in "Smells Like Nirvana") and how it had very little to do with "music", but the kids were soaking it up, and when I meet someone who is ten years younger than me, they still act like Grunge was the pinnacle of modern music, and it was all downhill from there. Go figure - I guess in the end their opinion is as valid as mine.

But I still found something I liked even in the popular music of each decade. And hey, even Taylor Swift has some catchy tunes. If Cindy Lauper had released them in the 80's, I might have them in my 80's playlists already.

 

[tonyr6]

Okay Taylor Swift Shake it up is not bad. I watched the music video a few times and I did get the song stuck in my head but the newest song Bad Blood is a example of the horrible music out today. Not her best tune and this is how it starts with artists before you know it it will all like Bad Blood and the artist will be a former shill of herself.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

There is a strong relation there. I believe everyone loves the music that was popular when they were in their early teens. It simply gets stuck in our minds. Today's teenagers will be nostalgic about Rihanna and Taylor Swift someday and complain about how all contemporary music sucks.

I am also a kid of the 80's, so I have a strong affinity for most of the stuff from that time. Then the 90's came, and I remember how me and my friends felt that Nirvana was pretentious, pseudo-intellectual crap (Al Yankovic really captured that aspect perfectly in "Smells Like Nirvana") and how it had very little to do with "music", but the kids were soaking it up, and when I meet someone who is ten years younger than me, they still act like Grunge was the pinnacle of modern music, and it was all downhill from there. Go figure - I guess in the end their opinion is as valid as mine.

But I still found something I liked even in the popular music of each decade. And hey, even Taylor Swift has some catchy tunes. If Cindy Lauper had released them in the 80's, I might have them in my 80's playlists already.

Nostalgia plays a large part, of course.

That said, I think that most would agree that the 80s was a special decade in the history of pop. I think it is already seen as a golden age of music. I think this was partly because many things came together at that time. CDs came out, music technology was booming, and there was something in the air that created a culture of inspired music.

It truly was a magical time, and its enduring popularity is testament to that.

 

[triptolemus]

Okay Taylor Swift Shake it up is not bad.

You lost me at this point.

 

[motulist]

Nostalgia plays a large part, of course.

That said, I think that most would agree that the 80s was a special decade in the history of pop. I think it is already seen as a golden age of music. I think this was partly because many things came together at that time. CDs came out, music technology was booming, and there was something in the air that created a culture of inspired music.

It truly was a magical time, and its enduring popularity is testament to that.

Hahaha! You're kidding, right? Oh, wait, you're serious? Dude, no, totally incorrect. Sure, there were lots of good songs in the 80s, just like there were from every other decade, but overall the 80s is renowned for its cheesiness and vacuousness.

 

[Dark Void]

Okay Taylor Swift Shake it up is not bad. I watched the music video a few times and I did get the song stuck in my head

That's what it is designed to do. It controls the population of young teenage girls and feministic boys in our crumbling society.

 

[shandyman]

I agree 90% of the music today is crap. I love music from the even earlier than the 70's 80's, 90's I stopped listening to anything newer than 2006 when it got all terrible which is proof as the last album I bought was Rhianna before she became a foul mouth vulgar rap garbage artist which makes up most of the trash today.

I guess the only new music I listen to is Smooth Jazz but I wonder how much of that is actually from this decade.

I get depressed when each week, I preview the music featured on the iTunes front page. I make no discrimination, but dutifully listen to every album.

My poor ears. It doesn't matter if the album is rated 1 star or 5, it's almost all garbage or mediocrity. Classical music is an exception of course, but that's mostly dead composers.

Truly, I would be happy if most musicians today just stopped making music. There's no point when it's rubbish.

MEMO TO MUSICIANS: Only sell music if it's good.

You 2 just show that streaming is not for you, which is fair enough. But just because it's not for you, does not mean it is for the rest of us.

Additionally, because you don't like any of the new music does not mean that it's 'bad music'. It's just not to your taste. Which, again is fair enough.

There's lots of talented and great artists around. Ed Sheeran, for example, is brilliant, talented and is currently playing at a 'sold out, Wembley Stadium, here in the UK

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[jace88]

Novelty of telling my watch to play songs by ... whilst in the shower and enjoying it on my waterproof Bluetooth speaker hasn't yet worn off but I think it will soon.

 

[jplumey]

By the sounds of it you are happy listening to your existing library of largely older music, and not so interested in hearing much new stuff. Which is fine, but it certainly doesn't make anything you say about Apple Music / Beats 1 remotely true.

I agree with everything you said except the last part. I grew up without access to music and I'm now discovering awesome music from the 70s and 80s because of Apple Music. I'm loving it.

 

[Paradoxally]

Okay Taylor Swift Shake it up is not bad. I watched the music video a few times and I did get the song stuck in my head but the newest song Bad Blood is a example of the horrible music out today. Not her best tune and this is how it starts with artists before you know it it will all like Bad Blood and the artist will be a former shill of herself.

Please listen to her older albums, they are way better (Speak Now was her pinnacle, as she wrote it all by herself). As a big Taylor Swift fan, 1989 is a shadow of her former self, even if she sells more. She has some good tracks on that, but it certainly isn't SIO or BB.

There's lots of talented and great artists around. Ed Sheeran, for example, is brilliant, talented and is currently playing at a 'sold out, Wembley Stadium, here in the UK
.

Ed Sheeran's first album was decent. His second one was a huge disappointment to me.

 

[navaira]

Various people have various tastes. Let's at least agree on that

I signed to the free trial. iCloud wouldn't take my library because it has 32 thousand songs in it, and judging by this thread I've been saved by the bell. (Or rather by a cryptic error message "Genius playlists couldn't be updated." I don't use Genius.)

Apple Music is riddled with errors. Even their curated playlists somehow have greyed out tracks. With some albums you can only listen to half the songs because the other half is grayed out at random. It keeps on recommending me albums I've got in my library. Playlists are hit and miss -- I don't need "Introduction to Jack Johnson" when I have three Jack Johnson albums in my iTunes. (I thought the whole point of having this in one app was that Apple Music could check out your library and NOT serve you stuff you own.)

But I'll back up the unpopular opinion of Paco II: within 10 years streaming is going to dominate how we consume music. It will not completely eradicate physical CDs as long as there are grandmas in the world, and it will not completely eradicate paid downloads as long as there are people willing to pay for downloads. But it will count for 90% or so music consumption.

Another unpopular opinion: imagine you sign up with one service, say, Apple Music. One day Apple decide that it's not profitable enough and inform you within three months it will be terminated. You have 500 albums on your hard disk, countless playlists made to match your mood, and then on September 1, 2025 poof! you have a lot of files you can't play and a lot of playlists you can't export because Walled Garden. Of course you are free to sign with another service, as long as you don't mind re-downloading every album, re-making your playlists, ensuring all versions of the songs are correct (I'm one of the many people for whom it matters whether the playlists contains "Rhythm Nation (LP Version)" or "Rhythm Nation (Extended Version)" etc.), discovering some artists you love didn't sign deals with your new music provider and finally praying THIS service doesn't go bust in a year because you really don't feel like doing all this again.

What Apple Music has proved to me is: I need my offline library. I'm willing to wait for iTunes 12.3 or 13 or whatever to see the kinks ironed (they better get it out before my three months are out though) but for now I feel I'm going to stick with my offline library and Spotify Premium which costs half the price of Apple Music and, similarly to Apple Music, doesn't allow me to save stuff for offline listening (only in AM it's an error and in Spotify it's because I pay €4.99 per month).

 

[Paradoxally]

Let me just state that OP has a horribly inefficient method of discovering music, to reiterate what others have said in this thread. And this predates AM's release.

How can you not have discovered any new music using AM during these last 13 days? Either you haven't been using AM actively (not the case), or you just can't be bothered.

I'm not a huge fan of hip-hop, but Beats 1 has been playing some refreshing tracks and opened my eyes that it's not an absolutely terrible genre. But B1 isn't just about rap/hip-hop, they play a lot of new tracks and it's fantastic for discovery. I listen to Zane and Julie's shows every weekday (I skip Ebro because I'm not really interested in listening to the hip-hop genre for an hour or more).

Even outside of Radio, the For You tab has been surprisingly accurate. It has recommended me deep cuts of Elton John, Dire Straits, Bruce Springsteen, etc...which I enjoyed a lot. On the flip side, it also has me liking a lot of the indie rock/pop/alt music that the curators have placed on there. So there is some great new music, if you skip past the Ariana Grandes and Iggy Azeleas.

If you can't find them, that's your issue.