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Well, That Was Quick - Bored Already, Not Going To Keep Apple Music
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So, you're using an unrealistic amount if people..... Right. BJ's 200 million made up people is equally hardly anyone.
And a sizeable proportion pay less than $9.99 for Spotify.
The student rate is $5, and I've heard many say that there are carrier offers that bundle the Premium Spotify.
So the average is probably closer to $7. Even with that rate, it attracts very few people.
Interestingly, Spotify suddenly went to No1 in Top Grossing in the UK; it hasn't been there for a long time, if ever.
Not exactly what Apple want a few weeks into their launch of Apple Music.
Utterly ridiculous!
Why the hell doesn't Apple Music read your music library and make sure it doesn't suggest tracks you've got? It's clearly not been linked in, or isn't clever enough. Why should someone have to tediously go through a load of artists or genres manually when there's no need?
Such a failed service.
Well, since you've never used it, you have no valid opinion on this matter.
I'm gonna be subtle now, how do you remove yourself from a thread because it is boring the **** out of me. Who gives a flying **** I've just had 73 notifications on this now totally pissing me off boring bollocks. Some of you like apple music some of you don't, I've never witnessed such number crunching crap in my life....
Near the top of the page, underneath the thread title, opposite the page numbers, there should a like labeled "Unwatch Thread" or something similar.
And that's the thing, I don't think there is an alternative. In fact, I think if you look at it objectively, look at the opportunities we all have to be exposed to new music today vs. a decade ago we are in far, far better shape. And it's all free.
For me, I've discovered the most new music by clicking on iTunes "Top Albums" and "Top Songs" links on the Music landing page. I look at it globally and under the Alternative genre once a month. They list around 100 selections there, all ranked my popularity, it's hard to overlook something amazing. Jools Holland show was another great source, same for David Letterman and the other late night shows who always have emerging artists appearing almost every night of the week.
Case in point, I discovered Tame Impala via Cable TV of all things. Just flipping channels one night after the kids were asleep, skimmed Jimmy Fallon and heard a few chords of a song that I really liked, the very tail end of their appearance. Went to YouTube, did a search, the top ranked video was for a song called Mind Mischief and I was in love. A few clicks later there was a 60 minute video of a live radio show where they performed something called Feels Like We Only Go Backwards and I was hooked, launched iTunes and downloaded their catalog. The whole thing from Fallon surfing to iTunes purchase was 10 minutes at most. I didn't need a streaming service for this. I didn't need some expensive and hyped platform to curate an experience that got me to Tame Impala.
Note: This is really ironic. Tame Impala is just now coming out with a new album. My Apple Music trial hasn't alerted me to this, didn't have a clue. Just searched for them in Google and there's an article with an album review. So talking to you about the issues of Apple Music led me to an important musical discovery, nicest one I've made in months. Do I owe you $12?
BJ
That's exactly what I thought you said.
I still find it staggering that a parent would presume that their kids would not discover music beyond the tastes of their parents.
And I find it a complete contradiction that on the one hand you claim to be have such an interest in music to make that claim, but on the other seem to have virtually no interest in new music.
And why would you not factor in any new music? Are you assuming you would virtually have your kids' music for the rest of their lives covered by your existing library as of today?
If their parents are cool parents into a lot of music, chances are that will rub off on them, and they'll have a healthy appetite for music for a long time into the future.
They can't possibly do a better job, for two reasons:
1. They don't suggest music based on what you already like.
2. They don't provide instant access to virtually any music you might have even a passing interest in listening to.
And no - being able to buy anything doesn't really count.
Actually, an almost exact analogy.
No - because its not the same at all.
With a free iTunes radio station it might serve up a flow of tracks, but can you download specific albums and play them back in the order you want, when you want?
I'm sure its longer than a couple of weeks.
And maybe he plays all sorts of stuff, a lot of which doesn't ever become that big.
Here's a list of artists that have featured on the BBC Introducing thing, a lot of which would likely have been played on Zane's show at the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/introducing/artists/
I don't think many have become huge, but a lot of people have probably got into at least some of those bands.
That's a great story, but a streaming service still seems a better option.
From any song, tap a button and hear other songs like the one playing. Hear one you like, download the album and listen to it when you want.
Being able to do that for as many albums as I like for $10 a month, instead of $10 per album - then this is a no brainer.
This $12 figure has been completely debunked already.
Your whole argument here assumes that everyone who currently spends $0.00 on music, starts paying for music.
Including people like my 78 year old mum. Ain't going to happen.
And that completely skews your figures.
Given that you can control music through Hey Siri (to select playlists, artists, or albums) and on-steering-wheel controls (that most modern cars now offer), AM is totally usable in the car. The problem is that you're trying to use the on-screen controls, which is illegal in many (most? all?) places. That issue lies with you, not AM.
Yet the total income for the music industry from dales and streaming is almost twice that for every breathing body in the U.S. Statistics are not your strong suit.
Do you have any idea what it would take for that to happen?
Usually the people that complain are the ones that have an entitlement mentality based on no knowledge of what it actually takes to create a program, application or service. You speak of having to scroll through something as a cruelty or injustice.
Suggest your theory on a filtering system to Apple if you've got it figured out. I'd suggest keeping your expectations on a reasonable level if you have little idea beyond consumeristic entitlement.
Otherwise, tell us how to Apple should make it clever enough.
The only outlier itt is you. Let's not pretend otherwise.
So silly you think your modest 25k song library includes every possible song you might ever like. All this does is reinforce the notion you are not much of a music fan. In fact I would characterize you as a below average music consumer. Your listening habits and breadth of musical interest is certainly below average. That you have ten versions of 2500 songs is not getting you into the big boy club.
Rotflmao.
Seriously?
A man who believes his children like exactly and only what he likes is a man who does not know his children very well.
No one is paying anything for Apple Music for the first three months. If people keep it for a full year, it will cost them 99.99 for the year, not the $120 that has been mentioned in the thread. It may cost $120 for the second year, but we don't know that at this point.
Also, some people are on the family plan, so the price per person will be even lower.
Seems simple to me.
Just give the option of playlists based on your owned music with a slider option. You can have the playlist avoid your own music completely at one end, and at the other end, have all your music. In between, some of your music depending on where the slider is.
Recommendations are another thing. Apple should never recommend your own music.
I perpetually lease new BMW's and I get two years of XM for free and exchange my car for a new one every three years, so I only pay for 1 of 3 years of usage.
XM isn't great from a sound quality standpoint, but the channels are strong and the content is strong and no commercials. By the next generation of BMW's I'll have full iPhone integration which will allow me to run with free iTunes Radio and get rid of XM. Still no need for Apple Music.
BJ
I don't mind them recommending my albums. Sometimes it is nice to see something I bought ten years ago show up in my feed. However, I like the slider idea which is similar to how Rdio presents their artist radio ( would like to see Apple Music implement the artist radio slider, as well). However, people that find the app confusing, will probably find a new slider confusing, as well.
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