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iOS' navigation and required/restrictive patterns is too LINEAR while Android offers different pathways.

Tomorrow would mark my 3rd year with Android and just today I started using Nova Prime's swipe action on the apps (under edit when you press and hold an app). This is why I only have ONE page of a homescreen. Too many shortcuts. If I swipe up on the phone/dialer app, it can have my texting app. I no longer have to reach to the far upper left with my right thumb. If I swipe up on default browser, it brings up Opera Mini. If I swipe up on QuickPic, it can bring up Photo Grid. For YouTube, it brings up TubeMate. A shortcut of any app it can relate to.

I can do less digging and searching for apps in the drawer. With iOS, it is swipe left or right or find a certain app in a folder. Too much clutter. You can't hide the ugly icons or change them. You can't even LOCK the desktop in case the apps wiggle wiggle like a Jason Derulo music video. I think Nova Launcher Prime is years and years ahead of iOS in just versatility alone. If you want the quickest way to get bored of a homescreen and navigation, go for iOS. It's simple and smooth and boring, limiting, and the best at restrictions...
 

Col.bris

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Regarding light notifications not available. On the iPhone 6plus I have led flash for alerts. Phone calls messages etc flash the led. Is that the same as what android has?
 

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Regarding light notifications not available. On the iPhone 6plus I have led flash for alerts. Phone calls messages etc flash the led. Is that the same as what android has?

most android with notification lights have multicolor, so you can differentiate between call, sms, email etc.. by the color of the light
 

Tinmania

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Regarding light notifications not available. On the iPhone 6plus I have led flash for alerts. Phone calls messages etc flash the led. Is that the same as what android has?

No it is not at all the same. The iPhone flashes the LED from the camera. It is bright, almost scary in a dark room, and once it is done it is done. If you missed it you wouldn't even know a notification happened. It is mainly for the hearing impaired.

Many, or most, Android phones have a dedicated LED that glows or blinks in an assortment of colors to indicate a missed notification, the color indicating what type of notification. When plugged in to power it can tell you the phone is charging, and when it is fully charged (or in some cases the level of the battery as it is charging). Conversely it can tell you when the battery is low, if not plugged it. You can know all of this by merely glancing at your phone. No need to pick it up or turn it on.

It can also tell you a lot when it is not lit at all: that you have had no notifications therefore do not need to check your phone.


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Having just come from Android for the past few years to an iPhone 6 here are some things which I would like to see but DON'T necessarily miss on an iPhone:

*Notification light for missed events, calls, messages etc.
*Memory card - so convenient to slip in extra memory at a low cost although negated with my 64gb iPhone
*Widgets - although can be a battery drain, was nice to see the weather and news on the main screen without having to open an app
*Drag & drop - one of the main, if not main things I miss. Plugging in your phone and having the file folder open up and move anything onto the phone without having to do it through iTunes

Even with the above items, I still think IOS is slicker and I've experienced no crashes on my iPhone so far. Everything is smooth and fast - so far very happy with my choice.

Widgets were introduced with ios8. Yahoo Weather has one of the best widgets right now.
 

Tinmania

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Widgets were introduced with ios8. Yahoo Weather has one of the best widgets right now.

You mean "Apple's definition" of widgets were enhanced in iOS 8, not introduced. Notification widgets started in iOS 5, with weather and stocks. They were enhanced in iOS 7 with today view and enhanced again in iOS 8 by allowing third-party apps to use them.

But that is nothing like what Android allows: widgets right on the launcher (notification widgets too, of course).


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iOS 8 is a toy compared to Android. Its fine if you only ever want to do what Apple thinks users want, and you only ever use Apple devices and Apple services.

Its an incredibly polished and incredibly limiting OS that's incredibly frustrating.
 

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No it is not at all the same. The iPhone flashes the LED from the camera. It is bright, almost scary in a dark room, and once it is done it is done. If you missed it you wouldn't even know a notification happened. It is mainly for the hearing impaired.

Many, or most, Android phones have a dedicated LED that glows or blinks in an assortment of colors to indicate a missed notification, the color indicating what type of notification. When plugged in to power it can tell you the phone is charging, and when it is fully charged (or in some cases the level of the battery as it is charging). Conversely it can tell you when the battery is low, if not plugged it. You can know all of this by merely glancing at your phone. No need to pick it up or turn it on.

It can also tell you a lot when it is not lit at all: that you have had no notifications therefore do not need to check your phone.




Michael

Smart watches negate the need for led notification lights.

My Martian Notifier is a hell of a lot more useful to me with my iPhone than my Nexus 5 blinking a light.

Personally, I doubt Apple needs to even bother going down the led route. They may add in the Moto X style glance screen, but that would be the extent of it, especially with the Apple watch inbound.
 

ecrispy

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Smart watches negate the need for led notification lights.

My Martian Notifier is a hell of a lot more useful to me with my iPhone than my Nexus 5 blinking a light.

Personally, I doubt Apple needs to even bother going down the led route. They may add in the Moto X style glance screen, but that would be the extent of it, especially with the Apple watch inbound.

Yes, everyone should buy a smartwatch to get notified you got an email instead of a 1c LED on a phone.

Of course, till the day Apple decides to copy a feature, its useless (big phone, copy paste, notification, control center, widgets, wifi ac, keyboards) then suddenly it becomes 'magical' once they do.
 

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Smart watches negate the need for led notification lights.

My Martian Notifier is a hell of a lot more useful to me with my iPhone than my Nexus 5 blinking a light.

Personally, I doubt Apple needs to even bother going down the led route. They may add in the Moto X style glance screen, but that would be the extent of it, especially with the Apple watch inbound.

To be honest a watch is more ridiculous to add in. Are you just saying this because of :apple:Watch?

If I get an email notification, gonna be hard to reply with a watch.
 

Tinmania

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Smart watches negate the need for led notification lights.

My Martian Notifier is a hell of a lot more useful to me with my iPhone than my Nexus 5 blinking a light.

Personally, I doubt Apple needs to even bother going down the led route. They may add in the Moto X style glance screen, but that would be the extent of it, especially with the Apple watch inbound.
That is just an excuse for a shortcoming.

I have a smartwatch, a moto 360. It doesn't change the need for a notification light, nor should it be an excuse to not have one. My watch doesn't tell me my phone is charging, how far along charging it is or, if not charging, that the battery is below 15%.

My watch doesn't tell me I have had a notification when I have walked out of its range to my phone--times when I am grateful for notification light the most. My watch might tell me about missed notifications when it reconnects but it has failed to do so so far. The notification LED did not.

My smartwatch is being returned.

The phone I am getting tomorrow, a Note 4, will have a notification LED. Just like the Note 2 it replaces. Just like the phone my iPhone 2G replaced back in 2007. Back then nothing could come close to the experience I got on the iPhone--so I put up with missing features. Things are far different today.


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Yes, everyone should buy a smartwatch to get notified you got an email instead of a 1c LED on a phone.
Smart watches or smartwearables is the future. I'm not saying everyone needs to buy one, but if you want something better than an led light, a smartwatch is 10x better.

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To be honest a watch is more ridiculous to add in. Are you just saying this because of :apple:Watch?

If I get an email notification, gonna be hard to reply with a watch.

Apple watch is uglier than Sin. I'll never buy that thing.

But if you get an email notification, gonna be hard to reply with a light. Of course, the watch vibrates so even if you aren't looking at your phone you know you have a notification. And of course the watch tells you who the email is from and whether or not it is worth responding to. And what does an led light give you? Blink blink blink?
 

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The one thing I'd like to have are themes. I'm sure we're at least 5 years off but I'd like to see Apple open a theme store at some point. I'd pay a fair amount ($10-20) for a good theme and Apple would of course get their 30% cut. At the very LEAST I think Apple should offer two - light and dark - seems like it shouldn't be that difficult.

Never would have happened under Jobs but Cook seems to be loosening things up a bit and more likely to give consumers what they want (vs. supposedly telling us what we want before we know we want it).

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Widgets were introduced with ios8. Yahoo Weather has one of the best widgets right now.

I'm not at all familiar with Android but can't you have widgets on your home screen vs. only in Notification Center with iOS8? It's a step in the right direction but if that's the case I'd say it pales in comparison.
 

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That is just an excuse for a shortcoming.

My watch doesn't tell me I have had a notification when I have walked out of its range to my phone--times when I am grateful for notification light the most. My watch might tell me about missed notifications when it reconnects but it has failed to do so so far. The notification LED did not.

My smartwatch is being returned.

The phone I am getting tomorrow, a Note 4, will have a notification LED. Just like the Note 2 it replaces. Just like the phone my iPhone 2G replaced back in 2007. Back then nothing could come close to the experience I got on the iPhone--so I put up with missing features. Things are far different today.

Does your phones led light tell you you have a notificstion when you have walked out of a room? Or when it is laying face down? My watch has a BT tether and reconnects to give me my notifications when I come back in range. Ironically, my watch also has an led notification light.

I have no problems with using my iPhone. And paired with my smartwatch it is every bit as good as my Nexus 5 and it's led notification light... Actually it is a much better solution.
 

kevinof

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I understand your point BUT it's only ever going to be a solution for a very small minority of users. I can't see Kids, teenagers or grandpa and grandma going out and getting a smart watch. Ain't going to happen. Why can't get they have a led light on their phone?

Does your phones led light tell you you have a notificstion when you have walked out of a room? Or when it is laying face down? My watch has a BT tether and reconnects to give me my notifications when I come back in range. Ironically, my watch also has an led notification light.

I have no problems with using my iPhone. And paired with my smartwatch it is every bit as good as my Nexus 5 and it's led notification light... Actually it is a much better solution.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Or course, you can send an attachment as a new email. But you can't reply to an existing thread with an attachment. Also, I don't believe you can start a new email with multiple attachment types either.

I don't know if this is a big issue or not for most people but I do this daily. Having dropbox two-way sync all my files to my SD card via dropsync makes this so easy to email whatever attachment I need to my colleagues.

Edit : there is no reason Apple couldn't do exactly this with iCloud Drive.


If you using Dropbox... The mailbox app can reply with an attachment from your Dropbox.
 

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I understand your point BUT it's only ever going to be a solution for a very small minority of users. I can't see Kids, teenagers or grandpa and grandma going out and getting a smart watch. Ain't going to happen. Why can't get they have a led light on their phone?
And I do understand the led notification light and it is a very cheaply added benefit by the OEM for the consumer. I'm not against it, I just don't see Apple ever adopting it, especially when wearables are likely to take over our cell phones within the next decade.

Additionally, I have the led indicator light on my Nexus 5 and have downloaded the app Light Manager in order to get distinct colors for separate notifications, emails, texts and battery level indicators. I also have the active display with my moto X and Glance with my Lumia 925. Out of all of these, my smartwatch hooked to my iPhone 6 bests them all. Just my personal opinion having used all of them for quite some time.
 

Tinmania

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Does your phones led light tell you you have a notificstion when you have walked out of a room? Or when it is laying face down? My watch has a BT tether and reconnects to give me my notifications when I come back in range. Ironically, my watch also has an led notification light.

I have no problems with using my iPhone. And paired with my smartwatch it is every bit as good as my Nexus 5 and it's led notification light... Actually it is a much better solution.
That leaves anyone without a smartphone out of luck.

As for my smartwatch, it is of course connected via bluetooth. It is a moto 360... I'm sure you know what that is.

But it is not for me. It is going back. Well, probably. (I do like using Google now with it for reminders and such without touching my phone.)


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Dmunjal

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If you using Dropbox... The mailbox app can reply with an attachment from your Dropbox.

Does this work with Exchange?

Edit: just checked. It doesn't support Exchange. The point I'm making is that Apple doesn't natively support this functionality. The Dropbox app is pretty cool but it doesn't support Exchange and can't be made the default mail app. Fail.
 
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ecrispy

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Smart watches or smartwearables is the future. I'm not saying everyone needs to buy one, but if you want something better than an led light, a smartwatch is 10x better

Very much disagree. They are a fashion accessory and do nothing, its an answer to a problem no one has. The iWatch is being positioned very much as a fashion item too.
 

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Very much disagree. They are a fashion accessory and do nothing, its an answer to a problem no one has. The iWatch is being positioned very much as a fashion item too.

Don't care about the apple watch and have never implied it was the way to go.

And if you really believe a smartwatch does nothing, then you likely havent used one. Here is a use case scenario and it is the reason I have a smartwatch like the Martian Notifier. 1. It is cheap at $149 and is actually a real watch. 2. It has custom I able vibration patterns, which is very useful for deaf people like myself. 3. It works with iPhone and Android. 4. It gives me more than just text, email and calls. Pretty much any app with rich notifications can give me info on my watch.

Maybe you don't consider being able to discreetly check your notifications a plus (like when in a meeting) or being able to actually feel the vibration of the watch when you have a notification (can't tell you how many texts, emails and calls I missed when my phone was in my pocket because I didn't feel it vibrate and a notification light does you no good!)

But this is the beginning of wearables. I am old enough to remember people saying there was no way we could ever fill a 250MB (yes megabyte) hard drives. Wearables and phones will intertwine and become one. Better get used to it.
 

mrex

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Very much disagree. They are a fashion accessory and do nothing, its an answer to a problem no one has. The iWatch is being positioned very much as a fashion item too.

i got a smartwatch to notify me when my phone was in a bag. my phone was Note10.1 so the smartwatch was a life savior. Before the smartwatch i never knew who was calling, if there were sms/emails... i needed to take the phone out from my bag. With the smartwatch I saw who was calling, replied back for sms, and saw all messages etc.

nowadays when i got OPO, i jumped back to these tiny phones. but i still like to use my smartwatch. at first i wasnt sure, do i need to use my smartwatch anymore, but i just realized, it is still handy... i dont need to take my phone out from my pocket on everytime something happens - i can use my smartwatch. i dont need to check my phone from time to time, because my smartwatch tells me, if there is a new message, new posts on some forums or what ever...

and i need to use a calender daily to know where i need to be on next hour or what i need to do. my watch has a widget right on the watchface and it tells me all i need to know.
 
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iOS 8 is a toy compared to Android. Its fine if you only ever want to do what Apple thinks users want, and you only ever use Apple devices and Apple services.

Its an incredibly polished and incredibly limiting OS that's incredibly frustrating.

Agreed. It's kind of wierd that OSX Yosemite is incredibly polished but at the same time completely open yet iOS8 is glitchy as hell while being completely locked down.
 
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