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What are you listening to? Part III

Michael Jackson started playing on the radio, and I had to admit it was good. I started avoiding his music when all the weird stuff started hitting the news. I couldn't help but feel weird/negative listening to his music, which is unfortunate(cause his music was cool). What do you guys think about listening to his music?
 
hawkeye_a said:
Michael Jackson started playing on the radio, and I had to admit it was good. I started avoiding his music when all the weird stuff started hitting the news. I couldn't help but feel weird/negative listening to his music, which is unfortunate(cause his music was cool). What do you guys think about listening to his music?
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It's the old "how do you separate the dancer from the dance", isn't it?

When I was younger, I really liked the art of Salvador Dali, but felt uncomfortable saying so, as it may have been construed as approval for the artist as well. In fact, at that time, his art tended to give rise to two distinct - and very strong - reactions - one positive, which applauded the art but completely ignored the repellant human being, (which wasn't really an admirable stance) and the other detesting the art and the artist.

I didn't agree with either stance - but, as a teenager - couldn't quite articulate just why neither position expressed my perspective.

Then, I read an essay written by George Orwell, who argued that one can acknowledge that someone is both a moral monster and a great artist at the same time. Liking the art (or music) does not mean liking the man, or giving what he had done or has done in life a pass.

That argument addresses the (legitimate) fear that applauding the work might be construed as approving of the actions (or character) of the man.
 
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hawkeye_a said:
Michael Jackson started playing on the radio, and I had to admit it was good. I started avoiding his music when all the weird stuff started hitting the news. I couldn't help but feel weird/negative listening to his music, which is unfortunate(cause his music was cool). What do you guys think about listening to his music?
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I've never really gotten much from Michael Jackson's music, but I vividly remember some friends of mine, being fans of his music, struggling with the news that were circulated at the time. Most, however, were able to differentiate between enjoying the artist vs. "enjoying" the person making said art. There are many artists that I respect, and even admire as artists, that have exhibited at times detestable qualities as human beings. It can be difficult at times for sure.

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It's the old "how do you separate the dancer from the dance", isn't it?

When I was younger, I really liked the art of Salvador Dali, but felt uncomfortable saying so, as it may have been construed as approval or the artist as well. In fact, his art tended to give rise to two distinct - and very strong - reactions - one positive, which applauded the art but completely ignored the repellant human being, the other detesting the art and the artist.

Then, I read an essay written by George Orwell, who argued that one can acknowledge that someone is both a moral monster and a great artist at the same time. Liking the art (or music) does not mean liking the man, or giving what he done in life a pass.

That argument addresses the (legitimate) fear that applauding the work might be construed as approving of the actions (or character) of the man.
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Great post, mirrors my thoughts exactly. I need to seek out that Orwell essay.
 
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hawkeye_a said:
Michael Jackson started playing on the radio, and I had to admit it was good. I started avoiding his music when all the weird stuff started hitting the news. I couldn't help but feel weird/negative listening to his music, which is unfortunate(cause his music was cool). What do you guys think about listening to his music?
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Whatever you think about the guy, his music was good. Some classics. However his style is very much his own. You'll either love him or hate him.

Personally if I'm in the mood I'll stick on his music.
 
pachyderm said:

jury still out on this one but...
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A great, great song, but that reimagining didn't do much for me personally. I would've really liked it if it was an all-banjo -cover the way it started! Maybe someday.

As far as covers go, yesterday evening I was bored and tried to settle on a movie to watch. Without going into that much detail, I ended up watching The Big Lebowski. For the 1000th or so time. This nugget of gold is featured in the movie.


Someone stole the only Gipsy Kings CD I had a while back. Was not a cool thing to do.
 
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Tipped off on a good deal, I just purchased the complete Beethoven symphonies. From Spain. For a song. Amazon Spain $36 US for the complete works.

Beethoven: 9 Symphonies Conducted by Leonard Bernstein, this set includes a head-to-to-burnishing for the Blu-ray’s hi res stereo and 5.0 (LPCM 192/24) version that is also downsampled for the included CDs. I’m more excited for the stereo, which should rival or exceed previous vinyl iterations. Enthusiastic as I am for surround, the ambience seems iffy and perhaps overwhelming (especially in a reflective, echoey living room like mine). Still, the embedded videos are a great primer on archivism, preservation and remastering. Beatles fans may enjoy demonstration of the legendary Studer reel-or-reel machines.

 
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IronWaffle said:
Tipped off on a good deal, I just purchased the complete Beethoven symphonies. From Spain. For a song. Amazon Spain $36 US for the complete works.

Beethoven: 9 Symphonies Conducted by Leonard Bernstein, this set includes a head-to-to-burnishing for the Blu-ray’s hi res stereo and 5.0 (LPCM 192/24) version that is also downsampled for the included CDs. I’m more excited for the stereo, which should rival or exceed previous vinyl iterations. Enthusiastic as I am for surround, the ambience seems iffy and perhaps overwhelming (especially in a reflective, echoey living room like mine). Still, the embedded videos are a great primer on archivism, preservation and remastering. Beatles fans may enjoy demonstration of the legendary Studer reel-or-reel machines.

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Enjoy; sounds like a wonderful buy.
 
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Stella Martin said:
Wonderwall by Oasis.
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mobilehaathi said:

A new discovery.
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Do they really need the microphones?
 
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