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I performed this with a dance company several years ago—I think in either 2018 or 2019. The show was a massive endeavor that took nine months of rehearsals to pull off. I played an acoustic piano, keyboard, synth, and a MIDI controller hooked into Logic. It took me almost a month just to program the patches (because I had no idea what I was doing at the time.) We didn't have any strings, so I had to cover that, too - not only in this song, but in the other songs. It was so much fun! Anyway, we did this piece, and I just rediscovered it.
 
Going through Andreas Vollenweider's home concerts (over and again).
Truly one of my all time favorite musicians.

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Billy Joel's The Stranger. Yes, that guy... who (allegedly) plagiarized a bunch of Irish folk tunes and called them his own. I'm listening to the whole album in general. Haven't heard it in years, and yes, I think it's still good!
!?!? I've never heard this one... do tell?
 
Billy Joel's The Stranger. Yes, that guy... who (allegedly) plagiarized a bunch of Irish folk tunes and called them his own. I'm listening to the whole album in general. Haven't heard it in years, and yes, I think it's still good!
Well, it is generally accepted that one can take traditional airs and folk tunes, - many of which long predate any (formally) claimed composition, as they often have derived from oral traditions that had been passed on - and arrange, or compose fresh arrangements or interpretations for them, and that is not regarded as plagiarism.

However, to claim - and attempt to pass off - antique tunes (and often, well-known, at least in folk music or trad circles) as your own does take some nerve.
 
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idk, I had a piano teacher, and an ensemble director tell me that. Hard to tell if they were joking or not, but I'm inclined to think they were serious, because I can hear some of that stuff in his music myself. These were also two separate occasions of someone saying that, sooooo, I don't know.
They would know what they are talking about, and thus, I would be inclined to agree with you, and say that they were indeed quite serious.

The thing is, there is nothing wrong with attributing an antique air, while composing an arrangement for it, yet acknowledging the source; credible and respected artists do it all the time; and here, the example of Jordi Savall (and there are many others) comes to mind
 
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Billy Joel's The Stranger. Yes, that guy... who (allegedly) plagiarized a bunch of Irish folk tunes and called them his own....

And were you told which songs? Or was it just a vague comment?

Well, it is generally accepted that one can take traditional airs and folk tunes, - many of which long predate any (formally) claimed composition, as they often have derived from oral traditions that had been passed on - and arrange, or compose fresh arrangements or interpretations for them, and that is not regarded as plagiarism.

However, to claim - and attempt to pass off - antique tunes (and often, well-known, at least in folk music or trad circles) as your own does take some nerve.

yes, but then is that actually what happened? The Billy Joel story also sounds like it could a bit of snippy gossip.

I don't know much about Billy Joel's work but I'm aware that in an interview years ago, he talked about a book of traditional folk songs that he owned as a child and how one of the songs in the book inspired the music for a particular song of his. So in at least that situation he didn't seem to be hiding anything

I could hunt around to find the reference if you want.
 
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@Scepticalscribe You might find this interesting—I certainly do! I don't know much about it, but I love the form. It's a passacaglia as far as I'm aware. Same four chords over and over, and the piece is interesting all the way through! This was part of a listening assignment for a class.

Thanks for linking (and sharing) this; I did (greatly) enjoy it.
 
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Billy Joel's The Stranger. Yes, that guy... who (allegedly) plagiarized a bunch of Irish folk tunes and called them his own. I'm listening to the whole album in general. Haven't heard it in years, and yes, I think it's still good!
I had a roommate from Brooklyn at Iowa State who was really into Billy Joel, he did a show there and I didn't buy a ticket, wasn't that interested.
The afternoon of the show my roommate handed me a ticket, said My Treat, you're Going! To this day, second-best concert I've ever seen, no warm up act, no break, 3.5 hours of solid music; wow!
(best concert still has to go to Chick Corea's Elektric Band, Santa Fe NM)
 
I had a roommate from Brooklyn at Iowa State who was really into Billy Joel, he did a show there and I didn't buy a ticket, wasn't that interested.
The afternoon of the show my roommate handed me a ticket, said My Treat, you're Going! To this day, second-best concert I've ever seen, no warm up act, no break, 3.5 hours of solid music; wow!
(best concert still has to go to Chick Corea's Elektric Band, Santa Fe NM)
Iowa State... I have several family members who taught or went there. Goddamn, we have more in common than probably either of us realized!

Anyway, both Billy Joel and Chick Corea must have been some fabulous performances! Where in Santa Fe did Chick Corea perform? As you know, I used to live in the area, so I'm inevitably curious.
 
Can't remember if I've posted these in the past, but this guy is absolutely ridiculous!!


Also, the Steinway model M is one of my favorite pianos to play—they're all over the place here at the university, so glad it's featured here. The second video doesn't explicitly say, but it sounds more like a model L or O than a model M. I don't like the L as much—too mellow of a sound for me.
 
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Can't remember if I've posted these in the past, but this guy is absolutely ridiculous!!


Also, the Steinway model M is one of my favorite pianos to play—they're all over the place here at the university, so glad it's featured here. The second video doesn't explicitly say, but it sounds more like a model L or O than a model M. I don't like the L as much—too mellow of a sound for me.
A autodidact guitar picker myself, switched to ukulele a few years ago.
But if I could start over, I would probably go with piano - such a wonderful instrument.
Thanks for the heads-up, he is indeed a wizard.

So, do you study music?
 
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