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GerritV

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Joining the Jazz vibe :cool:
I was lucky enough to see Jimmy and Doug live once, many moons ago. It was very intimate concert with only a handful of people. Father and son were joined by a Swedish drummer that they just met at the venue itself. It was wonderful seeing them play together right off the bat.

 

rm5

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This is the real stuff !

And this as well !
Oh absolutely!! I always talk about the bassist playing smooth, connected (legato) lines, always making sure to be right "on" the quarter note. Ray Brown did this SO WELL, as you might be able to hear!

Whenever I teach bass players, or pianists wanting to learn left-hand walking bass, keeping the line together is the first thing I say to them. In rock music, it's different, because usually the drums drive it forward. In jazz, the bass does, so it's imperative to have a legato line. Unfortunately too few people know how to properly do this. I mean, I get it, it's really difficult, but you gotta be willing to learn it! (Yes, I've played lots of rock, too--technique and common tools needed are COMPLETELY different.)

I may be putting it a little too harshly, but when I first learned jazz piano at around 10 years old, I learned how to play a steady, walking bass line in the left hand over a blues in all 12 keys before I learned ANY jazz chords. That was my assignment every week--a blues in a new key, at a medium tempo, with a walking bass line played legato. First thing I ever learned about jazz. A really good, legato bass line also helped me get my first gigs. (Actually, I found that teacher, and in turn discovered jazz, totally by accident, but that's another story for another day.)
 
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GerritV

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Oh absolutely!! I always talk about the bassist playing smooth, connected (legato) lines, always making sure to be right "on" the quarter note. Ray Brown did this SO WELL, as you might be able to hear!

Whenever I teach bass players, or pianists wanting to learn left-hand walking bass, keeping the line together is the first thing I say to them. In rock music, it's different, because usually the drums drive it forward. In jazz, the bass does, so it's imperative to have a legato line. Unfortunately too few people know how to properly do this. I mean, I get it, it's really difficult, but you gotta be willing to learn it! (Yes, I've played lots of rock, too--technique and common tools needed are COMPLETELY different.)

I may be putting it a little too harshly, but when I first learned jazz piano at around 10 years old, I learned how to play a steady, walking bass line in the left hand over a blues in all 12 keys before I learned ANY jazz chords. That was my assignment every week--a blues in a new key, at a medium tempo, with a walking bass line played legato. First thing I ever learned about jazz. A really good, legato bass line also helped me get my first gigs. (Actually, I found that teacher, and in turn discovered jazz, totally by accident, but that's another story for another day.)
In this context: John Entwistle (the Who) set his bass volume so that people would not really hear him play, but would immediately notice something missing when he would stop playing.
 

rhett7660

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Harry Chapin. And it leaves me wondering how many great story-songs died along inside him.

While I really only know, almost by heart, is Cats in the Cradle, which is one of my favorite songs. I have the album, and I believe I have listened to it all the way through a few times. I had not idea, until I looked up this morning, that he died at such a young age... it is showing 38 years young is when he passed.

If you haven't heard it... this is my favorite cover of the song:

Ugly Kid Joe - Cats in the Cradle

 

GrayFlannel

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While I really only know, almost by heart, is Cats in the Cradle, which is one of my favorite songs. I have the album, and I believe I have listened to it all the way through a few times. I had not idea, until I looked up this morning, that he died at such a young age... it is showing 38 years young is when he passed.

If you haven't heard it... this is my favorite cover of the song:

Ugly Kid Joe - Cats in the Cradle

Which one? I had a few but Greatest Stories Live was my favorite.

Have you seen Harry’s son? Wow. Identical. This version include Josh his son.

 
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Scepticalscribe

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In a coffee shop.
While I really only know, almost by heart, is Cats in the Cradle, which is one of my favorite songs. I have the album, and I believe I have listened to it all the way through a few times. I had not idea, until I looked up this morning, that he died at such a young age... it is showing 38 years young is when he passed.

If you haven't heard it... this is my favorite cover of the song:

Ugly Kid Joe - Cats in the Cradle


Which one? I had a few but Greatest Stories Live was my favorite.

Have you seen Harry’s son? Wow. Identical. This version include Josh his son.


You are right about his son. Great version too boot!!!!

Loved Harry Chapin's Taxi, was in a band in college that did this song live (minus the extended bridge/falsetto part). No one ever danced to it but it always got a lot of applause.
Thanks for the memory jog!

Terrific choice - I had entirely forgotten about him, and what a brilliant and haunting singer/songwriter he was.

Thanks for the reminder.
 

rm5

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I still absolutely LOVE this video!! At the beginning of combo rehearsal tonight as everyone else was setting up, bass player and I did this exact tune in this exact style, which was super fun! I did the "flat four" left-hand comping pattern, and during his solo, I provided time like Bram does in this video. Suffice to say it was a lot of fun! Probably the most fun part of rehearsal tonight, if I'm honest!

 

avz

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Freddie is not usually known for writing a "message" songs but this is the closest he ever came to writing one as it alludes to the notion that a non-structural "things" are much greater than a structural "things".

A subconscious mind is greater than a conscious mind and so on.

 

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I've had a lovely morning listening to some of this, first time I have heard these two albums, and it's just been uplifting...

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rm5

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Listening to various songs by the gospel vocal group Take 6, trying to pick out all the harmonies! Seem to be heavily influenced by Singers Unlimited, actually.

Kinda wish there was like a concise book with all the chords and progressions, but at the same time, it's a lot of fun spending hours in the practice room picking them out!
 
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pachyderm

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Just realized that 1985 on this version of the LP has no lyrics! I've listened to the entire LP before and just never noticed.

lol

I know it's 'underdubbed" but who'd of thought that the entire vocal track would have been "dubbed"?
Picasso's Last Words also has a lot left off, which is fine I like this version much better. It's neat hearing all the goofy stuff included on there.

And the track listings are different than the LP that came out in '73.

I'd hoped we get Helen Wheels on there as well but alas we did not.
 
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Just realized that 1985 on this version of the LP has no lyrics! I've listened to the entire LP before and just never noticed.

lol

I know it's 'underdubbed" but who'd of thought that the entire vocal track would have been "dubbed"?
Picasso's Last Words[/u\] also has a lot left off, which is fine I like this version much better. It's neat hearing all the goofy stuff included on there.
I don’t know if what I am about to say is true, but much of the hidden Easter Eggs seemed to begin with The Beatles. At least that’s when I started hearing a lot of excitement about them in releases and album notes.
 

GrayFlannel

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Class act...

Tull was one of my very favorites growing up…Heavy Horses was my least favorite album. But actually think most of their less popular stuff were my favorite such as:

A Christmas Song, Cross Eyed Mary, Taxi Grab, Too Old to Rock n Roll Too Young to Die, Nursie, Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day, Mother Goose, The Whistler to name just a few.
 
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