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shinji

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Grinding It Out by Ray Kroc. If you watched The Founder, hidden gem with an incredible performance by Michael Keaton, you know good parts of the story despite the fact that the movie makes Kroc too much of a villain. This is Kroc’s version of the story - somewhat more credible than the movie - and the story of a man that never gave in to failure. At 50+, and after many failures, he finally found the vision and the product that ultimately would lead to his success. As he mentions, he was “an overnight success, thirty years in the making.” Definitely an interesting book that was a pleasure to read. Obviously, like many books like this one, it is sometimes self-serving, but this does not detract from the enjoyement of the book overall.
If you don’t want to read the book, I strongly suggest that you watch the movie.

You might like Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser, too. It covers Ray Kroc's early dealings with the McDonald Brothers and the growth of the entire industry.
 

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Which Kay book? I have The Lions of Al-Rassan on a to-read list... which list is way too lengthy...

Personally, I recommend the two books of the Sarantine Mosaic (Sailing to Sarantium and Lord of Emperors) - I loved both books - and A Song for Arbonne; or, rather, these are my favourites.

The Lions of Al-Rassan was one of the books (by Kay) that I liked least.

Other works of his that I liked a lot included The Last Light of the Sun, and Children of Earth and Sky.

While I quite liked the two books he wrote that were set in China, Under Heaven and River of Stars, perhaps this world is too alien for me to feel thoroughly at him in it from a fictional point of view.

Tigana, of course, was excellent.
 

LizKat

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Personally, I recommend the two books of the Sarantine Mosaic (Sailing to Sarantium and Lord of Emperors) - I loved both books - and A Song for Arbonne; or, rather, these are my favourites.

The Lions of Al-Rassan was one of the books (by Kay) that I liked least.

Other works of his that I liked a lot included The Last Light of the Sun, and Children of Earth and Sky.

While I quite liked the two books he wrote that were set in China, Under Heaven and River of Stars, perhaps this world is too alien for me to feel thoroughly at him in it from a fictional point of view.

Tigana, of course, was excellent.

Thank you for those! Didn't help with the too-lengthy list problem but that's on me. :D At the moment I'm off to the kitchen before this chilly morning morphs towards "almost August" and makes cooking something for tonight seem a less attractive idea. Briefly leaving established fiction behind in favor of inventing some new truth about a couple of peppers and a chicken...
 
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Thank you for those! Didn't help with the too-lengthy list problem but that's on me. :D At the moment I'm off to the kitchen before this chilly morning morphs towards "almost August" and makes cooking something for tonight seem a less attractive idea. Briefly leaving established fiction behind in favor of inventing some new truth about a couple of peppers and a chicken...

In general, I think that Kay is excellent; he writes women superbly, his history is solid (most of these are some sort of alternative histories), his secondary characters are well-sketched having been given credible backgrounds and motivations, and the magic - such as it is - is never allowed to overpower, or drive the story, but may subtly influence choices and situations occasionally.
 

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I thought the Mistborn series was a trilogy? There's two further Mistborn novels listed. Do you know what they are?

Yes, the 'original Mistborn series is a trilogy.

To my mind, (as is often the case), the first book is the best, but the entire trilogy is excellent. They are The Final Empire (which is outstanding), The Well of Ascension, and The Hero of Ages. The world depicted is a sort of cross between an Renaissance era world and that of the early 19th century.

There is a further set of sort of sequels - set a few centuries later, but in - more or less the same world (or, rather the altered world that emerged after then end of the original trilogy).

The technology, society - & level of development - depicted in these books is that of the very late 19th century and early 20th century in the US. In sequence, these three books - the fourth one has yet to be written or published - are The Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self, and Bands of Mourning.
 

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Giving 'The Cuckoo's Calling' a read by J. K. Rowling.

How do you find it?

While I love the Harry Potter series, I have never read any of J K Rowling's other works.

This must have a waiting list at the library... whenever I see a reference to it I have to bail off the internet to keep from just caving in and buying it.

I was wondering about that book and whether it is worth reading.
 
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I'm only 100 pages into it, but I would recommend it so far. One criticism I read was that the author inserts himself into the commentary, to the point that it should be called "Leonardo and Me". Well to my relief it hasn't been like that yet, but I'll reserve my verdict for when I finish it :)
 

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I'm only 100 pages into it, but I would recommend it so far. One criticism I read was that the author inserts himself into the commentary, to the point that it should be called "Leonardo and Me". Well to my relief it hasn't been like that yet, but I'll reserve my verdict for when I finish it :)

I do want to read it... I had read some supposed "reader reviews" along lines it was too much like a text book, which I took to mean it had footnotes and assorted back-of-book references, sources, etc. LOL, think I can "deal with that"...
 
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I'm only 100 pages into it, but I would recommend it so far. One criticism I read was that the author inserts himself into the commentary, to the point that it should be called "Leonardo and Me". Well to my relief it hasn't been like that yet, but I'll reserve my verdict for when I finish it :)

If the author inserts himself in footnotes, that is fine by me - because these are comments on sources, or works, and that is valid criticism - footnotes can be a very rich source of further analytical criticism and commentary - but I will admit that this would not much appeal to me in the main body of the text.

After all, such a work should be about "Leonardo", rather than "Leonardo and Me".
 
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yaxomoxay

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You might like Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser, too. It covers Ray Kroc's early dealings with the McDonald Brothers and the growth of the entire industry.

I read it back in 2012 or 2013. Definitely a good suggestion!
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It's very popular. The copy I'm reading now has a waiting list of 5. Thankfully working at the library allowed me to get to it before it went back out on the shelves :D

One of the few things I miss of working within a public library system :)
 

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One of the few things I miss of working within a public library system :)

I had a warrant in Iowa for failing to return a library book(s). I think it was $90 or so. :( I found out during a traffic stop just a week or so before leaving for boot camp. I drove to the sheriff’s office and paid it afterwards. Sheesh!

I got stopped again just a couple days before leaving. (As a coincidence I recently met the officer playing a pick up game of racquetball against him at the Y. I didn’t recognize him but he remembered and gave me a HUGE break...one I didn’t deserve.)
 

yaxomoxay

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I had a warrant in Iowa for failing to return a library book(s). I think it was $90 or so. :( I found out during a traffic stop just a week or so before leaving for boot camp. I drove to the sheriff’s office and paid it afterwards. Sheesh!

I got stopped again just a couple days before leaving. (As a coincidence I recently met the officer playing a pick up game of racquetball against him at the Y. I didn’t recognize him but he remembered and gave me a HUGE break...one I didn’t deserve.)

You should’ve been jail’d. The chair ain’t enough for people like you who steal books from all of us avid readers :mad: ;):)

Seriously this is a pretty funny story! We have people who owe thousands, yet the city decided to not do anything.
 

Gutwrench

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You should’ve been jail’d. The chair ain’t enough for people like you who steal books from all of us avid readers :mad: ;):)

I went to a catholic college straight out of high school and pretty certain I didn’t return some materials from there too. You’ll be happy to know the library’s Sister of Bound Periodicals has likely taken my offenses to an even higher authority. :(
 

LizKat

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lol "Burn and Shiver", baby... burn and shiver... ;)


Burn and Shiver (Azure Ray).jpg

But you'll probably be forgiven:

I'm saving all I'm not giving
But it's overflowing, evaporating in the air

As I'm walking, i know I'm not breathing, I'm not breathing only air
It's filled with words once spoken by people everywhere
And i can hear all the whispers that have lived a thousand years
It just took me being open for them to reach my eager ears
Now they've reached my eager ears and I hope I'll be ready
When my light, when my life divides.


-- Azure Ray, A Thousand Years
 
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