Has anyone read The City and The City, a Hugo Award science fiction novel, and like it? I’m trying and it’s just not appealing to me.
My dad recently gave me William Manchester's three-volume biography of Winston Churchill, The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill. I don't know when I'll ever get around to reading the entire thing, but I'm happy to have it.
You should try the "Bobiverse". Easy to read, but kind of hardcore SF. I haven't heard anyone say they disliked it yet! It's a trilogy and pretty good! You might also like the Murderbot novellas. They were really entertaining!
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35014337-we-are-legion-we-are-bob
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32758901-all-systems-red
I’m reminded of the phrase I first heard in V for Vendetta*: Actors use lies to tell the truth, while Politicians use lies to cover up the truth.Most of what I'd have to say about The Handmaid's Tale is probably too political for this subforum. But I'd offer that the most startling thing to me was the short timeframe of the changes that occurred, and the realization that things we may take for granted --"inalienable rights"-- did not just drop out of a cloud sometime and stick here as a force of nature unto themselves, nor somehow evolve to end up naturally engraved in everyone's hearts. I found the book a lot of work to get through but that it's left me a lot of food for thought and made me more of an activist than I had perhaps thought I'd have to be at my age.
I have not seen the TV series nor so far read reviews of it either. I confess to being a little wary of made-for-TV adaptations of anything treating subjugation of women. Perhaps that's very unfair of me without a look-in at some episodes of any particular series.... but "sex sells" and is sometimes problematic in TV presentations of how the good guys may (or, may not!) win in the end but meanwhile look how they tie her up and put duct tape over her mouth and stuff her in the trunk of a car and... is that a cigarette burn on her forearm.. Jesus Christ enough already has often enough been my response to abandoning some exposition of "how it's done".
Was there some other point to the story? Oh yeah, the bad guy got caught and locked up at the end. Hoorah for the good guys. What do I remember about it? Not that tacked on and formulaic ending, nope. I'll remember the attempt to make the "how it's done" crime ever more ingenious and compellingly gritty for us, the voyeurs, since we may no longer just feel like viewers.
I'm not critiquing anything in the Handmaid's Tale here... but acknowledging my reluctance to bother with it since I have read the work and found it compelling enough that I'm not sure I want to see how someone else wants me to see it. Or rather see how someone else chooses to focus on this or that aspect of the tale, since you're right, no TV production could translate the whole thing in its detail to the little screen.
"All art is propaganda..." [Orwell] so... it's not just the moral of the story that waves some banner, is it? The graphic immediacy of video in portrayal of physical or psychological violence is sometimes a deal breaker for me whereas I don't feel inclined towards censorship of the underlying written material at all. Maybe it's just my age. I'm in that last generation that learned to read before laying eyes on a TV (or, obviously, a movie theatre screen). That must surely make a huge difference in how people perceive "talking pictures".
Very true - but it is hard to have re-read it in the last few years - especially if you were at least a teenager when it originally came out - without feeling a sickening lump in your stomach.Most of what I'd have to say about The Handmaid's Tale is probably too political for this subforum.
Again, agreed. Back in the 80s I saw all this progress everywhere and envisioned a world where unions and ‘civil rights laws’ and things like that would become unnecessary because acceptance seemed like an unstoppable tide ... until it wasn’t. So suddenly re-reading in 2017 was like a gut-punch. In an era where some see a man refusing to hire women because he might be alone with them as ‘honorable’ rather than the grotesque and illegal thing it is ... suddenly much less of the book seemed like dystopia.I found the book a lot of work to get through but that it's left me a lot of food for thought and made me more of an activist than I had perhaps thought I'd have to be at my age.
I have not seen the TV series nor so far read reviews of it either. I confess to being a little wary of made-for-TV adaptations of anything treating subjugation of women.
You should try the "Bobiverse". Easy to read, but kind of hardcore SF. I haven't heard anyone say they disliked it yet! It's a trilogy and pretty good! You might also like the Murderbot novellas. They were really entertaining!
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35014337-we-are-legion-we-are-bob
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32758901-all-systems-red
My dad recently gave me William Manchester's three-volume biography of Winston Churchill, The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill. I don't know when I'll ever get around to reading the entire thing, but I'm happy to have it.
Just released this week and delivered to me an hour ago by UPS... looking forward to reading this.
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Indeed! I'll read that when it comes out, too.I'm going to read Mattis' book too. And, just based on carefully phrased remarks attributed to him via press reports of media interviews, I'm looking forward to reading the next one he writes as well.
"There is a period in which I owe my silence. It’s not eternal. It’s not going to be forever,” he said.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jam...ld-trump-silence-but-wont-keep-quiet-forever/
I couldn' make it all the way through...Rereading...
IQ84 by Haruki Murakami
I really enjoyed the first three parts but was a bit disappointed with the fourth.I couldn' make it all the way through...
I really liked the Wind-Up Bird ChronicleI really enjoyed the first three parts but was a bit disappointed with the fourth.