Phones What can an iPhone do that a android phone can't? [EDIT: and vice-versa]

[itjw]

While I agree Android phones do hold SOME resale value, and that may be "fine" in some peoples mind, it simply doesn't compare to the iPhone. 100%, and in a lot of cases MORE (especially back when there weren't as many US carriers), is just not touchable. the SGS2 has been out for how long now? And it has depreciated how much? Do a search of recent eBay SALES before you tell me it hasn't... then do a search of the 4S and tell me what percentage it's holding. I never said it didn't hold ANY value, just that it pales in comparison to the iPhone, especially when you need to replace it every few months to have the "best" one.

My sex appeal comment is backed up by research. I was married before I got my iPhone, but I can say that I have witnessed it firsthand when out with friends. Not from a basement, but from many, many social establishments. Especially back before everyone had one. Refuse to believe it, but I'm telling ya, it's been a conversation starter FAR more than any other phone on the market. The iPhone has a cachet that Android doesn't. Period. "Google it" LOL.

I won't even get into the studies about iPhone owners having more sex. That could be any number of things... although it is a bit telling about personalities and what devices they own.

As for my car analogy:

Ferrari's do indeed have their drawbacks (I've never owned one, but I know several people who do), but their "fanboys" will still point out that you won't find a much more prestigious car in the world today, even if it can't "do" as much as XYZmobile.

And they sell. For a premium. Even with the drawbacks. Why? Because what they DO do is fairly unique. The iPhone, even in almost a 2 year old design, is STILL considered to be a better design piece than most Androids, including the SGS2 by many accounts (read the reviews... even the ones that rate the SGS2 higher don't do it because of material design).

The fact that some manufacturers won't allow you to upgrade to the latest Android OS is exactly my point: That they have to resort to those tactics to keep selling a product is an obvious indicator of DISTRESS. You can tell me it's because they're doing everyone a service by continually introducing a new product, but you can't deny that it ultimately hurts the end user (even if it's just in his wallet). No one wants "old" tech. My 4S won't be "old" until the 5 comes out next year.

Android will never have "that"

 

[mysterioustko]

While I agree Android phones do hold SOME resale value, and that may be "fine" in some peoples mind, it simply doesn't compare to the iPhone. 100%, and in a lot of cases MORE (especially back when there weren't as many US carriers), is just not touchable. the SGS2 has been out for how long now? And it has depreciated how much? Do a search of recent eBay SALES before you tell me it hasn't... then do a search of the 4S and tell me what percentage it's holding. I never said it didn't hold ANY value, just that it pales in comparison to the iPhone, especially when you need to replace it every few months to have the "best" one.

My sex appeal comment is backed up by research. I was married before I got my iPhone, but I can say that I have witnessed it firsthand when out with friends. Not from a basement, but from many, many social establishments. Especially back before everyone had one. Refuse to believe it, but I'm telling ya, it's been a conversation starter FAR more than any other phone on the market. The iPhone has a cachet that Android doesn't. Period. "Google it" LOL.

I won't even get into the studies about iPhone owners having more sex. That could be any number of things... although it is a bit telling about personalities and what devices they own.

As for my car analogy:

Ferrari's do indeed have their drawbacks (I've never owned one, but I know several people who do), but their "fanboys" will still point out that you won't find a much more prestigious car in the world today, even if it can't "do" as much as XYZmobile.

And they sell. For a premium. Even with the drawbacks. Why? Because what they DO do is fairly unique. The iPhone, even in almost a 2 year old design, is STILL considered to be a better design piece than most Androids, including the SGS2 by many accounts (read the reviews... even the ones that rate the SGS2 higher don't do it because of material design).

The fact that some manufacturers won't allow you to upgrade to the latest Android OS is exactly my point: That they have to resort to those tactics to keep selling a product is an obvious indicator of DISTRESS. You can tell me it's because they're doing everyone a service by continually introducing a new product, but you can't deny that it ultimately hurts the end user (even if it's just in his wallet). No one wants "old" tech. My 4S won't be "old" until the 5 comes out next year.

Android will never have "that"

The bolded portion of your post is sheer stupidity and that's about as far as I'll go in addressing that. As for a phone getting old, the Galaxy S2 isn't old until the GS3 is out. The Galaxy Nexus will not be old until the next Nexus phone comes out in Nov/Dec...

 

[miss.manson]

High end Android phones hold their value just fine.

Eh. Maybe so, but not like the iPhone.

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While I agree Android phones do hold SOME resale value, and that may be "fine" in some peoples mind, it simply doesn't compare to the iPhone. 100%, and in a lot of cases MORE (especially back when there weren't as many US carriers), is just not touchable. the SGS2 has been out for how long now? And it has depreciated how much? Do a search of recent eBay SALES before you tell me it hasn't... then do a search of the 4S and tell me what percentage it's holding. I never said it didn't hold ANY value, just that it pales in comparison to the iPhone, especially when you need to replace it every few months to have the "best" one.

My sex appeal comment is backed up by research. I was married before I got my iPhone, but I can say that I have witnessed it firsthand when out with friends. Not from a basement, but from many, many social establishments. Especially back before everyone had one. Refuse to believe it, but I'm telling ya, it's been a conversation starter FAR more than any other phone on the market. The iPhone has a cachet that Android doesn't. Period. "Google it" LOL.

I won't even get into the studies about iPhone owners having more sex. That could be any number of things... although it is a bit telling about personalities and what devices they own.

As for my car analogy:

Ferrari's do indeed have their drawbacks (I've never owned one, but I know several people who do), but their "fanboys" will still point out that you won't find a much more prestigious car in the world today, even if it can't "do" as much as XYZmobile.

And they sell. For a premium. Even with the drawbacks. Why? Because what they DO do is fairly unique. The iPhone, even in almost a 2 year old design, is STILL considered to be a better design piece than most Androids, including the SGS2 by many accounts (read the reviews... even the ones that rate the SGS2 higher don't do it because of material design).

The fact that some manufacturers won't allow you to upgrade to the latest Android OS is exactly my point: That they have to resort to those tactics to keep selling a product is an obvious indicator of DISTRESS. You can tell me it's because they're doing everyone a service by continually introducing a new product, but you can't deny that it ultimately hurts the end user (even if it's just in his wallet). No one wants "old" tech. My 4S won't be "old" until the 5 comes out next year.

Android will never have "that"

I'm not a fanboy, but I agree.

 

[In Like Flynn]

It'll still get software updates four months after its release.

Really, I don't really pick the iPhone for its features, I pick it for its build quality and the quality of the software (e.g. it just works).

(e.g. it just works) .. (like crap) .. til JB

 

[shadrap]

Work reliably and smoothly. I have had the following phones in the past 6 months Bionic, Razr, Rezound, and Gnex. Don't believe me, check androidforums under same user name. The iPhone beats these devices, the cream of the android crop and it does so easily.

 

[SCARY GAY DAD]

Look sexy and work extremely well at the same time.

 

[Vegastouch]

Look sexy and work extremely well at the same time.

Now thats sexy

 

[ReallyBigFeet]

It's all about the software. ITunes App store wins. Just compare top apps between iPhone and Android and you'll quickly see that Android users are accustomed to settling for less.

 

[hakr100]

It's all about the software. ITunes App store wins. Just compare top apps between iPhone and Android and you'll quickly see that Android users are accustomed to settling for less.

I used an HTC Incredible for nearly two years and now I am using a 4S. I don't see any significant differences between the same or similar apps on the Android or the IOS systems. What I have found annoying about 4S apps is that you have to buy before you try. Many of the good Android apps I used let you try the app for X days before you bought it.

Also, while there are kazillions of apps for either system, very few, relatively speaking are what I would call useful. And in some instances, the Android apps are superior to the Apple iPhone apps.

 

[cynics]

I think a lot of people here are picking out the worst android phones and comparing them to high end apple phones.

Like updates, my gf's og droid from Motorola she bought at the end of 2009 got an os update in nov of 2011. That's on par with apple.

And yeah android phones come out pretty quick with all sorts of new tech but it doesn't take away from the phone you own (aside from resale). But even that can be looked at as a benefit , break your phone well it's cheap to replace. And the people that have to have the latest and greatest will do that regardless of phone they will get the best iPhone that comes out too. I don't think it's a bad thing being given too many options because you don't HAVE to upgrade. Like I mentioned my gf still has a 2 1/2 year old droid that's still getting updates and works just fine.

 

[cynics]

It's all about the software. ITunes App store wins. Just compare top apps between iPhone and Android and you'll quickly see that Android users are accustomed to settling for less.

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I respectfully disagree.

Look at the tegra zone apps keeping in mind they are old.

And apple tax kills the comparison. WAAAAYY more of the same apps in the android market are free compared to the app store. Even popular things like all the versions of angry birds are free to android users. Usually app store apps are 99 cents more then android apps so app store 99 cent apps are free. Not all but quite a few if not the majority.

Coming from android to apple my biggest disappointment is the app store. Most of the "featured" apps are games.....crappy weak graphic cartoon games at that.

 

[bigbowlofjelly]

Android phone holds its value too

 

[cynics]

Android phone holds its value too
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I would never pay that!!! 5 dollars for shipping?!? Come on!

 

[SurferMan]

I used an HTC Incredible for nearly two years and now I am using a 4S. I don't see any significant differences between the same or similar apps on the Android or the IOS systems. What I have found annoying about 4S apps is that you have to buy before you try. Many of the good Android apps I used let you try the app for X days before you bought it.

Also, while there are kazillions of apps for either system, very few, relatively speaking are what I would call useful. And in some instances, the Android apps are superior to the Apple iPhone apps.

Agree 100%, the whole "every droid app pales in comparison" is played out and only used by those who don't know better. Still have a jb'd 3GS, 4 and now gf's 4S in the home from her work, with my i777 GS2. And I had a ton of app's on the iPhones/iTunes, I've not had any trouble finding similar "useful" apps in the Android market that are same/better quality. The cool thing with Android is there may be 10 apps for X and you can try each one without buying and figure which would be the best for you, with Apple, there may be 10 apps for X but your sol in having to maybe buy each one to try only to find out half suck. I've always said Apple needs to bring a "test drive" option to their apps. Some games I even like better on the GS2.

And agree on your 2nd part, no matter how many apps either market has, majority are useless. Do you really need hundreds of fart, "broken screen", soundboard etc apps? lol.

 

[Vanilla Ice]

I would never pay that!!! 5 dollars for shipping?!? Come on!

Hahaha nice!

As much as I love android, iOS is so much smoother, Better call clarity and better app layout (depending on the app) I still think The OG Droid is one of the best phones I have ever owned for 2 years but I still rather have iOS over Android.

 

[sentinelsx]

Name a high end android phone that held it's value (70-80% of subsidized price ($199-399 usually) after being on the market for more than a few months). You can't. Why not?

Why does it matter? Are you a phone flipping person?

Suspect quality? Sometimes sure... really depends on how much you believe in the lasting durability of thin plastic I guess.

Too many models? Possibly.

It can't run the latest Android OS: "Pinched Loaf"? Could be.

Or maybe it's just that by the time it comes to sell/upgrade there are already 10 superior models released and 10 more on the horizon? With 1.3Ghz instead of 1.2, or a .1" larger screen, backed with Kevlar... etc...

I used to change phones every MONTH. I was "that guy" who always had to have the latest angd greatest. And Apple fanboy I am not, despite always appreciating the company and level of polish. The iPhone was my first Apple product. Never even owned an iPod.

I have had a backup captivate for a good 13 months and recently replaced my i4 with a galaxy nexus. You buying phones every month is your problem, not android's. Do you buy a new car every month?

I have had every iPhone since release. Flawless? Nope. Does an Android "do things" my iPhone can't? YEP. But does my iPhone "do things" Android can't? YEP too:

It allows me to have a phone that is the pinnacle of quality, does everything that I (read: ME, not you) want it to do, does it exceptionally, and when I am ready to move on to the NEXT model (usually at release I admit) I can do so at no cost because I usually break even if not PROFIT from the sale of the old one.

But Android isn't inferior because of what it can't do. It's inferior because of what it IS, how it's branded, and how often it's churned/saturated. It's a product designed for the people who can't let go of the idea that 1.2Ghz isn't hopelessly inferior to 1.3Ghz, especially if it means getting a higher level of polish and support.

Almost every aspect of the iPhone is more refined. Not bleeding edge... but give one to someone who doesn't have a dog in the "Android vs. iPhone" fight and see what their impressions are? Someone who doesn't want to compare tech specs with their buddy...

The iPhone allows me to have the "latest" on a better than 40 day cycle, I never have to worry about quality (and if I did, a quick stop by the mall and I'd have a new one, no problem), and I don't have to salivate at the next OS that my phone may or may not be able to run.

Everything else (customizability, removable battery, etc.) are just preference. A bigger screen is PREFERENCE. The fact that my phone holds more of it's value, and that it does so while not needing to be upgraded 8 times a year is not. The 97+% satisfaction rating speaks for itself. Most people can use the battery all day. "Most people" is what you want in sales.

Remember, even if a Kia can "do more" than a Ferrari, that's not all that matters...

And chicks dig the i. The iPhone has sex appeal. it's ridiculous, but true.

Yeah those airheads are really what we all should aim for. Chicks who dig you because of a material = run away from them and never look back.

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Uh... What?

Not sure I understand your post, as my roommate just got an iPhone 4S and set it up on a Windows machine without an issue. In fact, she set up her iCloud before I did, after I put it off assuming I'd have to log in and set up the account manually. My last Android phone was free with a contract upgrade, but it was also a POS.

As far as the other part, I think you may have that reversed. Apple offers significant discounts to students and educators, and has had an education program running since the early 90's that provides computers to teachers and classrooms, a lot of which are donated free of charge.

I keep my Apple machines on average 5-6 years if not more, and on the whole I've found them to be solid machines that take abuse and keep running with little to no issues right up until the end.

I'm honestly curious if your post was drawn from personal experience, or if you're just parroting what you've heard about the brand.

Or maybe you didn't get it.

I was talking about app development. And i have been using this $400 laptop for 3 years now and it runs good with everything except for newest games. All my development, projects, even HD movie watching at times, it serves me well. I am not shelling $900 after "educational rebate" for another machine just to code. Also not shelling $99 just to load up a single app i might want to make for myself.

 

[itjw]

The bolded portion of your post is sheer stupidity and that's about as far as I'll go in addressing that. As for a phone getting old, the Galaxy S2 isn't old until the GS3 is out. The Galaxy Nexus will not be old until the next Nexus phone comes out in Nov/Dec...

LMAO and you're calling me stupid? Your Android effectively becomes "old" as soon as the next, "better", phone comes out. Doesn't have to be the SGS3...

By your bass ackwards logic if the iPhone 5 were to be named the "Android Destroyer" instead of the number (5) that comes after, the "old" phone would remain new.

Brilliant. You sir, are a Jenius with a capital J!

And YES... if NO ONE else has noticed, there are MANY, MANY perfectly normal, attractive people that are drawn to prestigious MATERIAL things.

It doesn't mean they are "airheads", it means they are likely NORMAL. We are a species that is dominated by appearance and vanity. Read a magazine, watch tv, hell GO ANYWHERE.

Then again, it would prove my hypothesis that more Android owners still lurk in their parents basements... KIDDING (maybe).

But go ahead and keep thinking that way. I bet your home is filled with generic everything, because it would be silly to pay more for just a name right?

Sheer stupidity...

 

[cynics]

There is no woman in the world that is attracted to a guy merely for his cell phone unless :

A: She is incredibly shallow. In that case watch out, don't break your phone and god forbid your best friend get the iPhone 5 before you!

B: She's a slut and love FaceTime nakedness.

Don't get me wrong material things will attract people things like big houses good jobs nice cars.

Not the most common cellphone that you can get on contract for a measly 99 bucks and probably less if your carrier offers the 3GS.

And I'm not saying its not a PLUS if she has one and see's you do to. But I'd stay away from the fashion magazines and movies if you really thinks that's how the world is. You don't live in your parents basement by any chance? Lol

 

[mysterioustko]

LMAO and you're calling me stupid? Your Android effectively becomes "old" as soon as the next, "better", phone comes out. Doesn't have to be the SGS3...

By your bass ackwards logic if the iPhone 5 were to be named the "Android Destroyer" instead of the number (5) that comes after, the "old" phone would remain new.

Brilliant. You sir, are a Jenius with a capital J!

And YES... if NO ONE else has noticed, there are MANY, MANY perfectly normal, attractive people that are drawn to prestigious MATERIAL things.

It doesn't mean they are "airheads", it means they are likely NORMAL. We are a species that is dominated by appearance and vanity. Read a magazine, watch tv, hell GO ANYWHERE.

Then again, it would prove my hypothesis that more Android owners still lurk in their parents basements... KIDDING (maybe).

But go ahead and keep thinking that way. I bet your home is filled with generic everything, because it would be silly to pay more for just a name right?

Sheer stupidity...

Actually I meant to only bold the portion where you talked about sex appeal...and yes that is sheer stupidity...your idiocy knows no bounds...
As far as resell goes compare apples to apples (pun intended). If you compare used sprint iphone 4's to used sprint nexus S' there isn't a large amount of difference. Around $50-$100 difference depending on where you look. The difference isn't massive. You can't compare a GS2's resale to that of a 4S when in the tech world a 4S is a MUCH newer device. sell...not so great for using (for me).
BTW GSM Galaxy Nexus' are selling for around $600 used while gsm 4S' are selling for around $500 on ebay. Both phones came out around 1 month of each other.

 

[itjw]

Yeah those airheads are really what we all should aim for. Chicks who dig you because of a material = run away from them and never look back.

Ya... Women who appreciate material things are all airheads... No woman worth knowing would ever notice a guy in a nice suit, or watch a Fly Yellow Ferrari drive by and notice. They'd just be an "airhead".

What world do you live in? If you can show me ANY, attractive (by normal standards) woman who doesn't value material things in some way shape or form, I'll eat my iPhone.

We all do. Stop pretending like it doesn't matter. It's SUCH a lie.

I'd bet money right now that if we took two people of equal looks, intelligence, character, etc... and gave one nicer "things" that not only would they garner a lot more attention, they would have JUST as much of a chance of meeting someone not worthy of running from.

To insinuate that material things and vanity aren't OFTEN a starting point for a relationship is downright hilarious...

Material things can't be the BASIS of a relationship (and I never said it did). But it can most DEFINITELY be the start. If a girl approachs someone because they have the latest Apple gadget it could mean any million of things... Doesn't brand her an "airhead".

BRANDING plays a part in everything we do every day. If you think only "airheads" pay attention to it, you're wrong. I'm sure your wife/girlfriend met you from behing a curtain, where only your personality mattered, and nothing else. If not, she's just an "airhead" right?

People like other people who like the same things as them. It's just common knowledge...

 

[hvfsl]

Agree 100%, the whole "every droid app pales in comparison" is played out and only used by those who don't know better. Still have a jb'd 3GS, 4 and now gf's 4S in the home from her work, with my i777 GS2. And I had a ton of app's on the iPhones/iTunes, I've not had any trouble finding similar "useful" apps in the Android market that are same/better quality. The cool thing with Android is there may be 10 apps for X and you can try each one without buying and figure which would be the best for you, with Apple, there may be 10 apps for X but your sol in having to maybe buy each one to try only to find out half suck. I've always said Apple needs to bring a "test drive" option to their apps. Some games I even like better on the GS2.

And agree on your 2nd part, no matter how many apps either market has, majority are useless. Do you really need hundreds of fart, "broken screen", soundboard etc apps? lol.

I agree with your test drive comment (although more and more devs are offering cut down versions at least). But my experience has been the complete opposite on App quality/availability. One obvious example is the facebook app between platforms. In fact when I was trying to find equivalent android apps to my ones I use on my iPhone 4, many just didn't exist (this is mainly games, but a lot of useful travel/location based apps too) and some did but actually cost money on Android, while being free on iOS. The only app I came across on Android which was better was the Google Navigation app.

 

[cynics]

I'm still not following how a smartphone that can be picked up cheaply that everyone and their mother has will help your game.

Exclusive material goods is what woman want.

Lol there is a thread on this sub forum that a father bought his 8 year old an iPhone. Look out ladies!

 

[mysterioustko]

..So anyway back on topic

-A few things just off the top of my head that android does that iphone doesn't (non-jailbroken):
-Download and upload in the browser.
-Full screen browsing.
-Flash (I phone can't use sights like beemp3.com, play video on cnn.com, or stream live video feeds from the web)
-Keyboard doesn't display letters in the correct case. It always shows the keys in capital letters even if you're typing in lower case (it only puts a small highlight under the shift key if you're typing in capital letters)..annoying.
-Store video in the cloud.
-Use the phone as a gaming system complete with roms and pairing playstation controller to phone, with ability to output it via hdmi.
-Cloud texting.
-Ability to push information straight from the browser to the phone via the cloud.
-Ability to install apps to the phone through the cloud. Meaning I can be on my computer, see an app mentioned in an article, click the link and install it to my device through the cloud.
-Respond to phone calls via quick message.
-Navigate to a destination with my voice (just saying "navigate to best buy").
-Send files via bluetooth.
-Pay for my food but tapping the phone.
-Create custom ringtones without the need for a computer.
-Use phone as a thumb drive.
-Set the phone up how YOU want it.

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I'm still not following how a smartphone that can be picked up cheaply that everyone and their mother has will help your game.

Exclusive material goods is what woman want.

Lol there is a thread on this sub forum that a father bought his 8 year old an iPhone. Look out ladies!

LMAO! Yeah he thinks his phone is just that impressive. More women are interested in my Audi than are interested in what cell phone I carry lol.

 

[SurferMan]

I agree with your test drive comment (although more and more devs are offering cut down versions at least). But my experience has been the complete opposite on App quality/availability. One obvious example is the facebook app between platforms. In fact when I was trying to find equivalent android apps to my ones I use on my iPhone 4, many just didn't exist (this is mainly games, but a lot of useful travel/location based apps too) and some did but actually cost money on Android, while being free on iOS. The only app I came across on Android which was better was the Google Navigation app.

How long has it been since your use? Must have been awhile? B/c I have my 4 in front of me and the GS2 and Facebook is basically the same right down to the layout, only real difference I notice is iOS says "sort" to choose highlighted/recent stories, and on Android in the same location is an image that looks like a facebook feed with a arrow pointing down to choose the samething. Games could go either way, like Gun Bro's I loved on the iPhone but it's even better on Android. Brothers in Arms 2 felt the same way. There is one game I couldn't find (or similar), N.Y. Zombies, which is a kickass game on iPhones. But it could go either way for both OSs for apps/games depending on what one prefers or is looking for.

But as far as all my useful app's on iOS, had no problem finding same/better on Android market (plus there are other markets as well ). Maybe like a year or two ago I would have felt opposite, but not now with the advancement that's been made in the market. I travel a lot for personal and biz, google maps/nav integration is awesome for that.

 

[mysterioustko]

Here's something an android phone can do that an iphone can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g