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scottyfrank

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Jun 19, 2012
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I was a die hard android user, and still am. I love the android platform and the ability to customize EVERYTHING. But in the terms of spiderman, "with great power comes great responsibility." In customization android has the power but not the responsibility to handle that customization. I loved being able to constantly change my phone, every day it was something new. Then after countless android phones I realized it was time for me to grow up and get a phone that worked, so to speak. iPhones work, period, android is always coming out with new phones and I realized why. They come out with new phones all the time because they let people do what they want, which is usually more than the phone can handle, and the phone slows and crashes. My iPhone works thats all I can ask for, I was tired of not being able to text when I wanted to or missing a call because of lag. They are both great platforms and they both have their ups and downs but being limited by a manufacturer isnt always a bad thing, it increases useability.

These are my opinions and nobody is entitled to them, this is just my view of experience and going through 4 android phones in a year.
 

typeadam

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May 16, 2010
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wow old thread is old...

BUT... if there is one HUGE thing that I miss from Android is the 'integrated global sharing system'
Basically, even going back to Android 1.5, any app can share anything with any other app.
To me that was huge and I used it probably more than any other feature of the OS.
I don't have this on my 4S and there are multiple times throughout the day that I wish I had it.

For those unfamiliar w/ this, it allows an app, an image, a file, pretty much nearly everything to be shared with any app or system function that allows input (most apps do (except apps like games, etc)).

Example: I use SoundHound or Shazam to get a song I like and I want to share the results. My options are: SMS, email, Twitter. With Android's global sharing system, I can share it w/ sms, email, twitter (ANY CLIENT INSTALLED like TweetDeck, etc.), facebook, Evernote (<--THIS WAS HUGE FOR ME), any ToDo app, any email client, and the list goes on.
I used Shazam as an example but this also applies to images, files, selected text, audio recording, videos, pretty much anything.
It was basically like the 'open with...' dialog in Finder or Win. Explorer...

There's not even a JB app I found that can duplicate this.

I know hardcore iPhone fanbois that even liked this and have never owned an Android so anyone that shoots this down either has blind hatred for Android or doesn't understand what I'm saying.

Another thing is being able to set default apps such as camera or email client...
 

jojoba

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Dec 9, 2011
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My android has much better predictive text. If Apple could sort that, I might switch.
 

Sunsean

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Mar 27, 2012
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One app that makes iPhone superior to android and that is GarageBand. That is the main reason I got the 4S. Had to give up droid to have the perfect portable studio.

+1 million, maybe the #1 reason (beyond just getting bored) that I switched from Android to iPhone.

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wow old thread is old...

BUT... if there is one HUGE thing that I miss from Android is the 'integrated global sharing system'
Basically, even going back to Android 1.5, any app can share anything with any other app.
To me that was huge and I used it probably more than any other feature of the OS.
I don't have this on my 4S and there are multiple times throughout the day that I wish I had it.

For those unfamiliar w/ this, it allows an app, an image, a file, pretty much nearly everything to be shared with any app or system function that allows input (most apps do (except apps like games, etc)).

Example: I use SoundHound or Shazam to get a song I like and I want to share the results. My options are: SMS, email, Twitter. With Android's global sharing system, I can share it w/ sms, email, twitter (ANY CLIENT INSTALLED like TweetDeck, etc.), facebook, Evernote (<--THIS WAS HUGE FOR ME), any ToDo app, any email client, and the list goes on.
I used Shazam as an example but this also applies to images, files, selected text, audio recording, videos, pretty much anything.
It was basically like the 'open with...' dialog in Finder or Win. Explorer...

There's not even a JB app I found that can duplicate this.

I know hardcore iPhone fanbois that even liked this and have never owned an Android so anyone that shoots this down either has blind hatred for Android or doesn't understand what I'm saying.

Another thing is being able to set default apps such as camera or email client...

+500,000 lol. This open functionality (universal sharing), along with Android's version of Maps, are IMO the 2 major things Android is holding over Apple's head. I have a feeling iOS users are going to be much map-happier when ios6 and Apple Maps launches, but I doubt Apple will implement universal sharing, though I think they're at least adding FB integration, which is a biggie.

+1 on Evernote, too, love that app.
 

redsox985

macrumors newbie
Jun 25, 2012
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Flame me now for being Android loyal, but I am open minded about it. No one does music better than iWhateverYouHave (it doesn't matter, it does it better) and that's why I have a touch 4g...

Anyways... I love my 4G service and Flash. Yes, there's Jailbroken Frash, but that hardly compares to Adobe Flash on my Droid. (Your ATT 4s's do say 4G, but when comparing download speeds to LTE, it doesn't measure up)

Also, I like open-source, dev friendly software. I love ROM'ing my phone and trying all the differently created options.

Many have said keyboards. Swype is great for one handed texting, but Swiftkey X has incredible prediction. The more you use it, the better it gets. I have Sywpe set up for portrait texting and SwiftkeyX for landscape two handed texting.

Screen size and NOW density on some phones (see the HTC Rezound). 720p screens look phenomenal. The HTC Rezound has a whopping 342 ppi. With screens as well, custom launchers and widgets offer a cool, differing experience.

Maybe it hasn't really been experienced on iOS yet, but as mentioned earlier, share with just about any app is nice. While on sharing as well, I like being able to mount my internal and expandable storage via USB like flash memory. You want to add 32GB to your Droid? It can be done for $20

Hardware is nice. Android had dual core offered first, as well as 8MP cameras. The Droid Inc1 had an 8MP cam in April of 2010! Android had 1080 capture first as well. Now the Samsung Galaxy S3 has a quad core (read overkill IMO) processor (Korean model). All of this adds to why Droid phones have lower resale values. They seem to evolve at a faster pace and have more variety.

Physical keyboards... Motorola perfected them with the Droid 3 & 4, next point.

Many have noted the iCloud. Yes, it's nicely polished, but Android requests a Google account at initial start. Yes, it can be bypassed, but I can't see many people ditching it as it enables you to sync all contacts, installed apps, calendar, etc. with the cloud. I can add my Google account to a new phone and enter the market and being downloading all of my apps and contacts without issue. I don't see the cloud as much of a deal breaker either way.

Additionally, security has been noted as an issue. As for malware and insecure apps, they really don't run rampant. It isn't a concern of mine as there are security apps out there (i.e. AVG) plus, all apps must receive user approval of requested permissions before they install. Even with this, you are able to root and revoke permissions. If you want a humorous read, see this.

Many have mentioned support of the phone. Clearly it's easier to develop for a narrow enough range of devices to carry entirely in one pair of baggy cargo pants. Also, Android is delivered by numerous companies, each with their own repuatations for support of devices as well as skins (Blur, Touchwiz, Sense, etc.) or vanilla Android. Android relies far more on its open source roots with independent developers building ROMs from source allowing users to pick their experience. Android has more opportunities if you wish, although IMO, it receives flak because many users choose box stock over OS, many box stock ROMs are crap compared to what's available. In addition to open source is the option to overclock/undervolt the CPU and GPU. Why the 4/4S comes underclocked at 800MHz is beyond me. Apple pitched its 1GHz processor, then threw the reigns on it. :confused::confused:

Android versions are named after desserts. Who doesn't like dessert. This is America, isn't it?

Maps on a Droid are very nice. GPS functionality is superior, yet accessories are limited, but for higher end phones, manufacturers will make a line of accessories tailored to that phone. The selection doesn't compare, but aside from funky colored cases and iHome docking options, I couldn't see many other accessories being paramount deal breakers.

Android does offer the clutz-friendly line of Casio phones. If you haven't had the chance to use (read "abuse/test") one of these phones, it's quite incredible what they can take. Granted this isn't something I'd usually do intentionally, shi+ happens.

FaceUnlock, yes, it's goofy and dumb, but kinda fun to play with. Same with the ability to boot other Linux systems such as Ubuntu. (That is a cool page.)

Samsung's new Galaxy S3 for VZW will come with a 1.5GHz dual core CPU and 2GB RAM. Being a Galaxy phone, it'll be open source and getting that to 1.6 GHz (2x clock speed of 4S) shouldn't be of any difficulty. ***EDIT: With source code released, it's now being clocked to 1.8GHz with the GPU reaching 800MHz *** The HTC One series allows for still photo WHILE capturing 1080p video.

To summarize, the hardware offered with Android based phones, as well as open source software (leading to customization) coupled with Adobe Flash, is why I have chosen to remain with Android devices. IMO, the iPhone is the ideal phone if you want a smartphone, but don't overly care about making it yours. Try to read this next sentence as an option of mine, not a direct attack at each and everyone of you... It's the phone I'd recommend to a non-tech-savvy person (i.e. my mother). It's a great device, just not for me.

Please excuse any typos, as it's 1:50AM and I really don't know enough to matter anyways. Response from RootzWiki writer. Also, I joined just because I felt like expressing my opinions. Definitely the longest first post I've made on ANY forum I've joined.

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Exio

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May 14, 2012
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Not all of these apply to everyone's situation, but here's a few things that I personally find most useful and that keep me on iPhone vs. considering an Android phone:
  • The App Store - WAY more apps than Android. Yes, you can usually find "an" app for Android that will do what you want, but many, many more developers release on iOS than on Android - and the quality of apps available shows it.
  • Integration with iTunes - if you keep your music and/or videos on iTunes, syncing is painless (and soon wireless, with iOS 5). iPhone was my first Apple product - I now also have two Apple TV's and an iPad, and I love the fact that I can get at my media from any device.
  • Battery life - no Android phone comes close
  • iCloud synchronization - this is going to be a MAJOR game-changer in iOS 5 (due for release next month
iMessage and FaceTime are great, but not critical to me. YMMV. I love the fact that most of my iPhone apps also run on my iPad (without buying them again), but I suppose that could be true of Android apps if you also had an Android tablet so you could consider that a wash.

RAZR MAXX beats the iphone :rolleyes:
 

JMG

macrumors 6502a
May 4, 2006
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What can an iPhone do that an android can't?

Sync to all my other apple products as seamlessly.

Prevents insecurities about the brand of phone I have.

Have an apple logo on it.

Have iOS on it.

Have sucky non-native turn by turn Nav.

Have a cracked back glass after a single drop.

Have consistent hardware specs and quality

iBooks

iMessage

iCloud

Have AppleCare+

Be brought to me by a genius in a blue shirt.

Have product announcements that have the cultural impact that only apple currently enjoys... besides Batman movies.

Have access to the apple app store

Have new tweaks to the UI that android has already had that become big news and genuinely fills many people with joy.

there are more but I'm sleepy
 

blkjedi954

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Feb 15, 2012
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Move along Droid doesn't fanboy!

Don't ever compare phones by Apps. That is not even a factor anymore. Almost anything I've ever wanted is in the market.
The customization for me is a big plus. The bigger screen for games and media too.

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You're just here to profess your love for your Android. Guess what? we don't care! And you're a total waste of space if you for one second believe apps aren't a major selling point. Like a gaming console, if the games suck the console sucks. Customizing is superficial and subjective, and only sells to those who need to prove to the world HOW different they are. Congrats!! Again, we don't care. Functionality is what a smart phone ultimate purpose is, and this undoubtedly can be measured to a large degree by apps available for said phone. Let's see, animated background or GPS???? Decisions, decisions! I'll go with GPS 100% of the time. I know it's a watered down analogy, but you get my point. Take your love for your Android and find a forum that cares. We don't! We're here for actual issues and general concerns which we'd hope to get some helpful advice. Good day!
 

redsox985

macrumors newbie
Jun 25, 2012
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For me it's support, ease of use, familiarity, compatibility, lack of fragmentation, better app store...

Familiarity is definitely a selling point for many going to an iPhone IMO. Many people like the comfort of not having to learn a system that's entirely different; completely understandable. I don't really see how fragmentation is a problem (assuming you mean diversity of devices, system versions, etc.). It gives more options and allows the user to choose what they wish exactly. If you want a cost efficient phone with a good camera, you can have that. If you want a pocket computer, you can have that. Options, to me, aren't bad.

To me, "fragmentation" is a keyword that gets tossed around a lot, but never receives much in depth consideration.

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You're just here to profess your love for your Android. Guess what? we don't care! And you're a total waste of space if you for one second believe apps aren't a major selling point. Like a gaming console, if the games suck the console sucks. Customizing is superficial and subjective, and only sells to those who need to prove to the world HOW different they are. Congrats!! Again, we don't care. Functionality is what a smart phone ultimate purpose is, and this undoubtedly can be measured to a large degree by apps available for said phone. Let's see, animated background or GPS???? Decisions, decisions! I'll go with GPS 100% of the time. I know it's a watered down analogy, but you get my point. Take your love for your Android and find a forum that cares. We don't! We're here for actual issues and general concerns which we'd hope to get some helpful advice. Good day!

If customizing didn't matter, would there be jailbreaking and theming??

Next point... Can I take your narrow minded comments of "We don't care!", in which you are speaking for the ENTIRE community, and categorize all iOS loyal users as **********? No. That would be silly of me, yet you speak for everyone.

The OP is asking for advice on Android vs. iOS, that's what people here are doing... When they aren't personally attacking each other *ahem!*

^^^^^
Holy crap! A rational Android lover?! That simply can't be!
 
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sentinelsx

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Feb 28, 2011
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Flame me now for being Android loyal, but I am open minded about it. No one does music better than iWhateverYouHave (it doesn't matter, it does it better) and that's why I have a touch 4g...

As long as the music is there and you buy it from iTunes...

I had no issues using my music through any device. I find them to be about equal streaming wise.
 

redsox985

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Jun 25, 2012
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As long as the music is there and you buy it from iTunes...

I had no issues using my music through any device. I find them to be about equal streaming wise.

Sorry, I was talking in terms of syncing simplicity. Nothing is easier than the plug and play experience of iTunes.
 

sentinelsx

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Feb 28, 2011
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Sorry, I was talking in terms of syncing simplicity. Nothing is easier than the plug and play experience of iTunes.

Audiogalaxy streams all my music to any audiogalaxy logged in device :p I also like the fact that it is cross-platform.
 

mlts22

macrumors 6502a
Oct 28, 2008
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Reasons I like Android:

The Mr. Number app. It takes care of spam SMS and the robocall vermin before they ever ring your phone, due to an extensive database online.

Titanium Backup. I can back my apps and their data encrypted, save it to DropBox, and even archive off games that I play and want to delete for more space, then restore them if I so choose.

Reasons I like iOS:

iTunes has its warts, but it is better for syncing than any Android solution. Same with buying music.

The Google Marketplace needs to be split up into an actively maintained and approved section, then a tier for everything else, with phones locked to the upper tier until the user explicitly accepts a dialog explaining the consequences of going to un-vetted apps. It is not uncommon on Android to find a game, see a lot of 5-star reviews like "Awesome" or other pithy reviews, then when you look at the game's permissions, it asks for everything under the sun. Why should a game want your contact info and access to making SMS calls? It is too easy for a novice user to download something like that, then find their contact list being spammed from their phone. To boot, when that app and its dev gets shut down, another will take its place almost immediately uploading the same app except with a slightly different publisher name. So, until Google gets more active at guarding the gate, I recommend iOS since in the real world, the active protection of Apple's approval process gives it a major bonus in security, even though technically iOS's security model isn't as good as Android's in some places.

Until Google gets active with a tiered system with active policing, Android will see reports of compromised devices. I have yet to hear of anyone near me with a compromised iPhone, and that says a lot.
 

Cod3rror

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Apr 18, 2010
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Play video(audio) in the background.

Sometimes I open the YouTube app, find a song, or a documentary, then switch to the browser and make the YouTube app play the video in the background from the multitasking controls while I do something else in the browser.

It also works for third party apps like OPlayer, if a dev implements a background audio.

You cannot do that on Android.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Jelly Bean looks and sounds fantastic. I'm especially excited about the Swiftkey-like improvements to the keyboard. It just makes the iOS keyboard (and lack of upgrades/improvements) feel all the more painfully outdated.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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Jelly Bean looks and sounds fantastic. I'm especially excited about the Swiftkey-like improvements to the keyboard. It just makes the iOS keyboard (and lack of upgrades/improvements) feel all the more painfully outdated.

I use swiftkey and the new Android keyboard will have a lot to live up to. I'm looking forward to the improved notifications, the improved voice search and Google Now :D
 

Eddie Bombay

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Aug 27, 2011
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Play video(audio) in the background.

Sometimes I open the YouTube app, find a song, or a documentary, then switch to the browser and make the YouTube app play the video in the background from the multitasking controls while I do something else in the browser.

It also works for third party apps like OPlayer, if a dev implements a background audio.

You cannot do that on Android.


I hope this was a joke. Their are tons of YouTube background apps but YouTube Radio I think is the best. You can even que your list for the day and create playlists of music, vids and documentaries.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Atomax.android.YoutubeRadio
 

nishishei

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Jun 5, 2005
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Yes i am aware of all that. I have owned android handsets before and recently sold my last one, and have experimented with ROMs and themes and launchers etc etc.

Sure your home screen looks different, but you have the same info: a weather widget, that clock and some notifications with the battery percent (i still don't know why is it so hard for google to show battery percentage in status bar, MIUI does it in a very nice way too). Same stuff i find undesirable and no need for.

I used to have a gmail and calendar widget on my phone, every thing else i played with and deleted because i would never use it. Like pulse reader or some other RSS apps. I found i just never bothered to check them. So why kill my battery.

But i found that i still clicked on my gmail widget to go into the app every time i wanted to read an email and regardless of the preview i still wanted to see the entire message list in the app. The only thing i used was calendar, but it shows up in the notification center on iOS 5 and i like it better than taking up the screen where i could put shortcuts instead.

I prefer apps compared to looks. Even WP7 homescreen looks fine to me. I used to heavily mod my windows xp laptop back in the day making it look like different platforms or just different, but for the last three years i am over it. My current windows 7 PC looks generic except for app icons and my choice of wallpaper of course. And i haven't lost anything. Just freed up more time to focus on more productive things.

Same goes with my smartphone. Give me more functionality, battery life and a very responsive system with constant support from the vendor. And so far iPhone has been doing great at this for me.
THIS. At a certain age customizing themes, rooting is no longer fun, it's just more work that distracts from your real work and productivity. I say this also as someone who grew up with Windows and spent way too much time customizing themes etc. Maybe I've just developed fatigue from that period of my life or maybe because Windows used to be hideously ugly. I don't do anything on my win7 machine either.

one thing i know: I would take the default iOS setup over the default android or touchwiz setup any day.
 

Eddie Bombay

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Aug 27, 2011
362
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THIS. At a certain age customizing themes, rooting is no longer fun, it's just more work that distracts from your real work and productivity.

Android in this day and age honestly doesn't need to be rooted where as if I didn't jailbreak my iPad it'd be pretty much worthless. I needed to jailbreak to watch some avi movies where on Android all I needed to do was install an app. What I loved the about iOS was that it had the option to change your battery to percent where back in the days you needed to root your phone to see that it install circle battery widget, but finally Samsung and a few others implemented that without the need to root. It's always the little things. Before I jailbroke my iPad I had to spend lots of time on the pc converting everything to a certain format only for iTunes to reject it once you try to send it to your device. Drove me nuts. With iOS everything seems to be just more work in order for it to be up to one's satisfaction. On my iPad just to transfer some files I had to wait for months until jailbreak was possible for 5.1.1 and then purchase iFile through Cydia. Once again, drove me nuts. Don't het me wrong I love my iPad or else I wouldn't have forked over the mad cheese for it, but I just wish iOS at least let us have a file manager without the option of jailbreaking.
 
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