Haha.
Putting the Ad hominem aside, are you saying that you would like Apple to reduce their security measures in favour of letting anyone have direct access into their iOS file system in order to allowing torrenting?
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What do you actually need an iOS File System for?
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Putting the Ad hominem aside, are you saying that you would like Apple to reduce their security measures in favour of letting anyone have direct access into their iOS file system in order to allowing torrenting?
Explain me, why is it possible on macOS, Windows, Linux with no security issues whatsoever?
I am not an IT Security professional but I have a degree in conputer science and work as a developer. So I think I have general knowledge of how OS work.
No more or less issues than with any other internet accessing application. Please be specific. What security problems arise when I install tTorrent on Android?
What security issues arise when I use skype for business on iPad?
If we had a "finder" app, we could go to iBooks App folder, and see files on a physical layer.
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Can you provide us some real life numbers?
Is it like 5hours ? or more like 8-10 ?
My Surface 4 Pro (i7 16GB RAM 1TB SSD) has battery for about 5 hours with the way I use it: Normally I work in the train on my way to work and need a fairly bright screen. Then my type of work requires that I use Matlab and Visual Studio a lot, additionally I'm connected to the Internet with my iPhone (7+) and have Outlook running. But my Macbook 15 Pro (2015 model) doesn't last much longer in this scenario.
The iBooks folder is not so easy to find. On my Macbook I couldn't find anything useful, as I had activated iCloud sharing. On the Cloud the iBooks folder is hidden and I had to get a hint from the Internet to find it. I then used a console cp -r command to copy everything back so that I can use some of it on the Surface now.
A tool that facilitates the uploading/downloading of files in and of itself doesn't introduce security issues. It is WHAT you download that can be. Provided that the P2P client itself doesn't execute anything that it uploads/downloads, it is fine.
What in particular do you have in mind when you believe that there are security issues with P2P software?
As mentioned earlier, I don't. I'm just going to e-mail them to myself one at a time or in small zip bundles.
Let's see what this propaganda tells us:
- Installation of malicious code: Due to iOS App Store monopoly, it is not possible to install "untested" software. But this is not bullet proof, as we all know.
- Exposure of sensitive or personal information: I can expose private information also with Dropbox or iCloud Drive, when I "accidentally" share folders with 3rd parties...
- Susceptibility to attack: Collaboration Tools such as Skype for Business, GoToMeeting etc. all use ports for transmission of data. All these contain the same risks. A Computer which is incapable of having port communication, is not a "computer" (in my opinion)
- Denial of service: Torrent Applications can limit the amount of opened connections. No problem.
- Prosecution: Not every country prosecutes his citizens for sharing licensed content (such as movies etc.). Torrent is not only used to download licensed content, but also to share larger files over network without the need of 3rd providers.
And then we have the BitTorrent Drive App in the App Store which allows the torrent p2p protocol... Why not let the users also have a torrent application? Does Apple want me to buy their content from iTunes?
Actually, the person who thinks that are the ones wanting a file system on an iPad.
At this moment, we have traditional computers like laptops (trucks) and post-PC devices like iPads (cars). You will always need a truck, but majority of people can do just fine with cars. That doesn't mean the cars themselves won't evolve or comes in various types (hybrids, electric, compacts, MPVs, etc).
Go ask Microsoft. They are investing heavily in AI and machine learning. In the future, you won't need a file system since the assistant will simply organize and fetch the stuff you want. I mean really, I have a super advance computer, so why should I do the dirty work managing the files? Should the computer do it for me? That's my view, and I'm glad Apple is taking the early steps (from spotlight, tagging, context sensitive apps, etc).
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Then get a Surface. Again, buy the right tools for your needs. iPads are fine, you just need something else.
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Android tablet? LOL. Where are they now?
You could've done better by using Surface Pro as an example, but nah.
File systems have been around in normal computers for the last 30 years or so, and it was very useful. No need to patronize users by omitting this - no idea why someone would wish it to stay absent. If you don't need it, only use the cloud. Those who want it can use it. In my experience it is a basic feature for a user friendly computer device.
For the life of me, I don't get why people who need a laptop bought an iPad instead.
Simple.
The above is just -one- reason why
iCloud Drive can't substitute for an open fie system.
The idea is ludicrous.
(Note: you didn't say it did...I merely quoted your post because of the point)
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According to Apple's spiel, the iPad can now.
Ymmv.
Android tablet? LOL. Where are they now?
You could've done better by using Surface Pro as an example, but nah.
Thank you for the argument
Apple said the iPod HiFi will replace your sound system. Did you buy one as well?According to Apple's spiel, the iPad can now.
Ymmv.
Not having direct access to the (or even an area of the) file system means chaos for drawing data and organization, and accessing drawings from ten different apps when each app must have its own local copy becomes a time consuming chore rife with opportunity for user error, corruption, loss, and versioning problems. Drawings contain data links linking other drawings, spreadsheets, databases, image and texture repositories, and all manner of client info. Project files are organized in a standardized filing system according to client and status, to be accessed by a mutitude of programs. iOS "importing" a local copy of a single file, cut off from everything, sandboxed off in one apps internal storage folder, is a functional dead end for that file.
Our designers and engineers collaborate with people at dozens of companies and thousands of clients at their offices, machine shops, homes, construction sites, and empty fields. Few of these places allow anyone to just jump on their network to share a file. The inability for iOS to plug in and access a file, due to Apples entirely unexplained refusal to allow anyone USB access, makes iOS devices look like incapable toys when we can all stand there and look at and revise a drawing, but the $1200 iPad "Pro" can't get a file off of itself with the functionality of a $10 thumb drive.
Our designers and engineers collaborate with people at dozens of companies and thousands of clients at their offices, machine shops, homes, construction sites, and empty fields. Few of these places allow anyone to just jump on their network to share a file. The inability for iOS to plug in and access a file, due to Apples entirely unexplained refusal to allow anyone USB access, makes iOS devices look like incapable toys when we can all stand there and look at and revise a drawing, but the $1200 iPad "Pro" can't get a file off of itself with the functionality of a $10 thumb drive.
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I’m totally for the ability to organise and manage my files on my device to which I call 'File Management’.
My feeling is that the majority of users fall into this category but that they don’t need access to the 'File System' i.e. the ability to read/write/delete system, application or cache files etc. Doing so would compromise the imbedded user control and expose the device to potential exploitable vulnerabilities which are commonplace among other operating systems. Furthermore, an open file system would mean every user would/should apply additional software such as IDS, antivirus, firewall and IPS. (Apple could try implementing a hardware based firewall but that would likely drive the cost up) This additional software would drain battery life, limit the user experience and still could not guarantee with 100% certainty to protect the system. (Recall Windows Firewall/Norton popping up all the time asking for your permission?)
So moving forward, I know that I certainly want a better way of managing my files on an iOS device and hope that Apple can achieve this without undermining their current security philosophy.
Did they really say that?
I never take anything Apple says seriously.
Unlike the Apple masses, I can think for myself.
How many of those are Kindle and cheap tablets used to entertain kids? Seriously, when was the last time you see an Android tablet (and you need a file system for it to be usable). The context of the conversation here are tablets in "professional" use that it needs file system, mind you.
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Steve did.Did they really say that?
I never take anything Apple says seriously.
Unlike the Apple masses, I can think for myself.
If you can think for yourself, then you can decide if you need a laptop or an iPad. The discussion is moot.
Adapt or die, there will never be an iOS filesystem. Expect improvements to iCloud Drive, but that is the direction we are headed.