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What do you actually need an iOS File System for?
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Nothing to adapt for me.
The iPad will always be a niche product until Apple gets serious about improving it.
Meanwhile, Windows and Android keep getting better.
There's a reason why I'm still on the ipad2. And it ain't because I can't afford better...the reason is because in the 6 years since I purchased it, Apple has only made marginal improvements.
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That works also, but for those in the iOS/Apple ecosystem, it's time to stop asking for a file system.
That open file system is just one reason why MS and Android keep chipping away at the iPad market share.
I, for one, am not surprised that iPad sales continue to shrink.
It's not really a great comparison, but I think MS and Android are certainly making their mark in this space. No Android tablets sell more than the iPad and what MS makes isn't really a tablet. It's a laptop with touch capabilities. I think if people are looking for a laptop, they should get a laptop. If they want a tablet, iPad is really the best out there.
When I say the iPad is a niche product, that's not necessarily bad. For what it does do, the ipad does it well.
But as needs change and as the competition continues to get better, it may become more difficult to justify getting a niche product over the others.
It's all on Apple. Always was and always will.
Would we all agree on the following terminology?
File Management == Organisation of files. (E.g. I can group all family vacation photos in a folder called 'Cornwall Camping Trip')
File System == The software component of the operating system that is responsible for the storage of all files (e.g. Application files, cache, library files, binary files, exe files etc)
File Management == Organisation of files. (E.g. I can group all family vacation photos in a folder called 'Cornwall Camping Trip')
File System == The software component of the operating system that is responsible for the storage of all files (e.g. Application files, cache, library files, binary files, exe files etc)
That's a fair point. Apple really needs to take iPad software to the next level. My only point was that I don't think it needs a file system to do so.
I want to be able to attach external media and move/sort files within and between media. I don't think iPhone needs this, but I think iPad should be running a slightly different variation of iOS with more advanced features such as this. It just can't be a true productivity, PC replacement device running the same OS as a smart phone - in my opinion.
Opening up the file system or at least giving it some enhancements would go a long way to making the iPad a better fit for the way many users would like to use them.
The split-windows that ios9 introduced...it's silly that ios10 didn't add anything and only with ios11 will we see something new.
Hopefully, the improvements will make it easier to use...but the glacial pace that we're seeing with iPad specific enhancements just underscores why some people have moved to another product.
A 2 year wait from split-windows v1 and split-windows v2...much too long.
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Enhancements are always welcome, we'll see what they come up with. So far, I have been happy with iCloud Drive for any files I have.
It's a bit rich to say that iOS 10 didn't add anything but it would be nice to see further developments that assist the iPad.
However I'm not sure fragmenting the OS into a dedicated iPad OS is a good idea. People really didn't like mobile dedicated websites that limited the amount of content that was displayed on their devices when the full sites had everything they wanted.
Enter Responsive Web Design which has a focus on ensuring people get a similar experience regardless of the device they are using. The same thing needs to happen for iOS devices. Currently, there are too many iPhone apps being used on iPad because the developers have not optimised their products for a larger resolution. (Keep in mind, there are so many resolutions for iOS devices that it can be frustrating to keep up with and that in itself offends the DRY principle of programming aka Don't Repeat Yourself.)
I meant ios10 didn't further improve on the split-window feature.
I thought that was clearly implied.
You need help.
The majority of your post was about anything but the split system. My apologies for misunderstanding what you meant.
And I apologize for my remark.
[doublepost=1495479200][/doublepost]I'm waiting for someone to comment on my "marginal improvements" statement.
Of course, adding Retina is more than a marginal improvement...it's just that Window and Android have long since added that to their product and it is no longer an iPad-only feature.
As I said...Windows and Android are always improving, less so with the iPad.
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A curious remark...I think there is much more tablet-coded apps (over their phone coded counterparts) in the Apple Store than in the Google store.
Even the Android die-hards generally acknowledge that.
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The thing is simple: Since the first years (2010-13), the sales of the iPADs are down to 50% of their highest numbers. Not only because iPADs keep going for many years, but because people noticed there is not so much they can do on an iPAD. Faster hardware with every new iPAD generation did not stop the downwards trend. If that continues, Apple will - in the future - have to ask themselves if it is viable to continue that line.
So up to Apple to decide what they will add to the iPAD software in order to regain interest from the public. Annotations on a browser or in Emails will not cut it, those will be in a proprietary format that noone will be able and/ or interested to read.
So up to Apple to decide what they will add to the iPAD software in order to regain interest from the public. Annotations on a browser or in Emails will not cut it, those will be in a proprietary format that noone will be able and/ or interested to read.
I read this and find it difficult to believe that Apple will change their file management approach in iOS:
https://developer.apple.com/library...uide/AppSandboxInDepth/AppSandboxInDepth.html
The philosophical change would be huge, much less the implementation.
https://developer.apple.com/library...uide/AppSandboxInDepth/AppSandboxInDepth.html
The philosophical change would be huge, much less the implementation.
Did they really say that?
I never take anything Apple says seriously.
Unlike the Apple masses, I can think for myself.
I'm not sure they said that but then it's just marketing. Given that Samsung sells even more devices than Apple at times, I think we need to re-evaluate this cliche about the "Apple masses". These are just generally successful products.
Yes, but adding a stylus to the iPad represented also a "huge change" compared to Steve Job's philosophical approach of touch screen devices. If the current concept sells less than well, they should maybe change it
A stylus at least is straightforward to add/implement and apps can evolve to support it. But to change the file system so fundamentally would have a significant effect on apps. I suppose that Apple would have to support both the old and the new.
I don't use iCloud Drive very often even thought I have 7 file folders there. But I used Dropbox and Box very heavy to store photo and other stuff.
ICloud Drive is also available to everyone (Windows, Linux, Blackberry etc) via an internet browser just like Dropbox.
That is cumbersome and probably useless. Can Icloud let you map and sync to folders in file system like most other cloud storage provides?