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SdPunk

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There are a large number of people in the United States with permits to concealed-carry firearms.

I carry my gun with me 97% of the time. I work at a screenprinting shop and the owner doesn't mind, and most places that I hang out, it's permitted at well. I can't take it in the post office, schools and colleges, bars, casinos, etc, but aside from class and the post office, I have it in my pocket almost all the time.

It's just like carrying a knife or a cell phone, it's part of what I put in the pockets when I get dressed. It's just a tool that I carry with me daily. It's relatively unobtrusive, and I pray that I don't need it, but if I do, at least I know I have the ability to defend myself and my loved ones.

It's really not a fear thing, there are [rare] days where I leave it at home, and I mostly feel fine, but at least my having ensures that I'm prepared and can pose an equal threat to anyone who may threaten me, that's all.

What he said and it was very well said. :)

When I don't carry a firearm, I carry a knife.
 

wordoflife

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Backpack for class
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Rarely I bring my laptop, but if I do, it's in one of those laptop bags
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(except mine is an HP)

And in my pockets, I have my iPhone, key to house (yes I just carry it like that), gum, and some money (i don't really use a wallet but I do sometimes)
 
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Happybunny

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This is the first thread that somewhat shocked me on this forum. Except for members of the police etc,it's the casual carrying of weapons by members of the public that shocks me.

Well this guy
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Could under Arizona gun laws which are found mostly in Title 13, Chapter 31 of the Arizona Revised Statutes. read ARS 13-3112
(Concealed carry over the age of 21 in most places no longer requires a permit as of July 29, 2010. Although not required, a concealed carry permit may still be obtained and has certain advantages)
 
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i0Nic

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There are a large number of people in the United States with permits to concealed-carry firearms.

I carry my gun with me 97% of the time. I work at a screenprinting shop and the owner doesn't mind, and most places that I hang out, it's permitted at well. I can't take it in the post office, schools and colleges, bars, casinos, etc, but aside from class and the post office, I have it in my pocket almost all the time.

It's just like carrying a knife or a cell phone, it's part of what I put in the pockets when I get dressed. It's just a tool that I carry with me daily. It's relatively unobtrusive, and I pray that I don't need it, but if I do, at least I know I have the ability to defend myself and my loved ones.

It's really not a fear thing, there are [rare] days where I leave it at home, and I mostly feel fine, but at least my having ensures that I'm prepared and can pose an equal threat to anyone who may threaten me, that's all.
While I understand this rationale, I still think it's crazy. Even carrying a knife around, if someone was carrying a knife here that it would definitely raise eyebrows and likely police suspicion.

If everyone is carrying a gun around doesn't it make any situation generally less safe? While there's always a chance someone could spring a gun on you, aren't you far more likely to get run over or get struck by lightning?

While I live in Australia and it could be different then certain parts of the US, but there are certainly some perceived 'unsafe' areas here too - and if you were caught with a gun or knife around these parts you'd be thrown into jail.

The 'right to bear arms' notion in the US is born out of the idea that one must protect himself - but if any person has the right to brandish a weapon doesn't this make for a generally less safe community? I know personally I feel far safer knowing it's illegal for anyone to carry a weapon than to think that any stranger I bump into could be packing heat, legally at that. Surely this would increase the probability of running into someone with bad intentions for using the weapon, being caught in between something, to even someone just having a bad day or even misusing their weapon.
 
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Happybunny

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I also wonder if there is not a racial component to this carrying of weapons.( I have a very strong idea that 90% of the weapon carriers are white). It would be very interesting to see the photos of these people.
From history Bernie Goetz in 1984 in NYC to Mark Stroman in 2001 in Texas, I could be forgiven for being skeptical about the rational of carrying weapons.
 

RossMc

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Apr 30, 2010
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Newcastle, UK
Everywhere (Pocket)- Phone, Keys, Cigarettes, Lighter

University(Bag) -

iPad 2 or MacBook Pro (Depending on what lectures I have)
Textbooks
Work
Pens/Pencils etc
 

sandylp

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I carry the following in my Emera bag:

Canon 50D with EF100mm f/2.8L
iPad2
iPod Classic with Bose headphones
iPhone4
Wallet,etc.
 

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Tomorrow

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While I understand this rationale, I still think it's crazy. Even carrying a knife around, if someone was carrying a knife here that it would definitely raise eyebrows and likely police suspicion.

Living in fear of a pocketknife? I find that sad.

If everyone is carrying a gun around doesn't it make any situation generally less safe?

Don't get the wrong impression - most people do not carry guns.

...if any person has the right to brandish a weapon doesn't this make for a generally less safe community?

"Brandishing a weapon" is not the same as "carrying a concealed weapon." I'm not aware that anybody is allowed to carry a pistol in-hand, finger on the trigger, looking for a target. That would most certainly get you arrested, if not shot. It's menacing, and it's not safe.
 

henry2

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that is sweet work ..I tried to get the city to allow the socalled Tagger's to paint some of the city walls with the type of work like you did but they said no and it was a same ..

Because of the guys did really good work .I let on paint the walls on the garage inside and i loved the work of the guy
 

i0Nic

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May 17, 2006
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Living in fear of a pocketknife? I find that sad.



Don't get the wrong impression - most people do not carry guns.



"Brandishing a weapon" is not the same as "carrying a concealed weapon." I'm not aware that anybody is allowed to carry a pistol in-hand, finger on the trigger, looking for a target. That would most certainly get you arrested, if not shot. It's menacing, and it's not safe.

Some of the knives I've seen in this thread are far more dangerous than simple pocketknives, and they don't look like they're intended to use for peeling oranges.

While most people don't carry guns, anyone is legally able to carry one. So basically if anyone can carry a gun, what difference does it make if not everyone is. As far as I'd be concerned, anyone on the train or any public area could be carrying a gun. Doesn't this just generate paranoia and therefore harbour the need to carry a gun? It's like a spiral - the fact that it's legal to carry and gun and you know that people do, makes you want to carry a gun 'just in case'.

I don't believe carrying a concealed gun is safe either. It's a weapon that could kill someone that is casually being carried around as if it's mobile phone or wallet. While I believe everyone in this thread that has posted a gun is safe and precautious, there will always be those people out there that are not so safe or may not be in a healthy state of mind. Why take the risk and make your neighbourhood unsafe by legally allowing these people to own and carry weapons.

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, the US is not some jungle where you need to carry around knives to kill your food. Or a third world country that is war-ridden and the police have little control so it's necessary to protect yourself.
 
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Tomorrow

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Some of the knives I've seen in this thread are far more dangerous than simple pocketknives, and they don't look like they're intended to use for peeling oranges.

You could most certainly peel an orange with it, or you could stick it in your eye. Which would you rather do? Well, so would we. Most of us who carry one understand what it's for (and what it's not for), how to care for it, etc. and use them responsibly.

While most people don't carry guns, anyone is legally able to carry one.

No, you have to be licensed, and some people (minors, convicted felons, etc.) aren't able to become licensed.

Doesn't this just generate paranoia and therefore harbour the need to carry a gun?

I think you've hit the nail on the head here - you're paranoid, and we are not. No, it doesn't bother people to know that there are people out there in the world who are armed.
 

Tastydirt

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Sep 25, 2009
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Unless you live in downtown Kabul, you're more likely to get stabbed or shot by your own weapon than someone else's. Arming yourself in most cases in the first world is akin to the security theatre you get from flying in the US, over the top and ineffective.
 

leftywamumonkey

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Jun 23, 2010
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I also wonder if there is not a racial component to this carrying of weapons.( I have a very strong idea that 90% of the weapon carriers are white). It would be very interesting to see the photos of these people.
From history Bernie Goetz in 1984 in NYC to Mark Stroman in 2001 in Texas, I could be forgiven for being skeptical about the rational of carrying weapons.

Woah! No way it is 90%. I think you're forgetting a few other races.
 

Happybunny

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With the 90% I meant the people who had posted on this thread, not the whole USA.
 
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dizzydot

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Mar 24, 2010
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This is a genuine serious question here so please don't take offence as none is meant but why do so many of you carry guns with you? :confused:
I understand if you're in the police (do all american police carry guns?) but I guess from a UK perspective it just seems really weird to imagine joe bloggs walking down the road with a gun in his jacket.

As i said no offence meant I'm just curious.


Didn't mean to start a war when I asked this way back on page 5 (I think)! and I certainly didn't want it to take over the original idea of this thread so apologies.:(

I suppose that different countries have different ideas of what's socially accepted and normal, but hey isn't that what diversity is all about? Lets get back to the original idea of this thread if we can and forget the gun thing?:)

Dizzydot
 

comacnut

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Aug 6, 2007
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iPad (1st Gen 32gb WiFi), iPhone (4 32gb black), Moleskin Journal, wallet, a ridiculous amount of keys, extra tube, allen wrench set and my North Face Venture rain jacket. I have a Timbuk 2 Freestyle bag. I'd like to get a Rickshaw bag but I just bought the Timbuk 2 a few months ago and can't justify the purchase.
 
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