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dkersten

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Verizon support, from the Play store, and updates directly from Google. I would even take a current Nexus 4 with that criteria was met
 

strausd

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And since it's Motorola, expect them to flaunt their X8 processor architecture. And if that is true, puts it at a disadvantage to last year's Nexus 4.

Another reason it won't be Motorola. Google won't "upgrade" their Nexus line from a quad-core to a dual-core.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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Another reason it won't be Motorola. Google won't "upgrade" their Nexus line from a quad-core to a dual-core.

lets see some logs of you utilizing those 3rd and 4th cores
I've heard that launching instagram is one of the few instances of all 4 cores going online :p
gaming? forget about it

in all seriousness, who wouldn't want 4 cpu cores - of course. Moto X benches higher than Nexus 4 though. The krait 300 is equivalent to that of the snapdragon 600's in htc one, sgs4 - but yes, there are only 2 of them and it has lower grade ram / lower cpu clock speed. I understand not wanting to upgrade from a nexus 4 to that because it is too incremental, but it is better. At least until something comes along that utilizes and needs those extra 2 cpu cores.

A certain small weighting needs to be given to the low power cores too.
 
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adder7712

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But the Moto X technically uses the same chipset as the Nexus 4 but with two less cores. Krait 300 is the CPU used in the Snapdragon 600 chipsets.

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Verizon support, from the Play store, and updates directly from Google. I would even take a current Nexus 4 with that criteria was met

Devices sold through the Play Store are unlocked and uses GSM/UMTS standards so it's highly implausible for a Verizon device to be dealt through Google.
 

strausd

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lets see some logs of you utilizing those 3rd and 4th cores
I've heard that launching instagram is one of the few instances of all 4 cores going online :p
gaming? forget about it

in all seriousness, who wouldn't want 4 cpu cores - of course. Moto X benches higher than Nexus 4 though. The krait 300 is equivalent to that of the snapdragon 600's in htc one, sgs4 - but yes, there are only 2 of them and it has lower grade ram / lower cpu clock speed. I understand not wanting to upgrade from a nexus 4 to that because it is too incremental, but it is better. At least until something comes along that utilizes and needs those extra 2 cpu cores.

A certain small weighting needs to be given to the low power cores too.

Many newer games actually do take advantage of all 4 cores.

And let's not forget the Nexus devices are developer devices. So Google will want to push out high spec'd devices to have developers use it and make their apps take advantage of it. That is what a quad-core CPU allows. Giving developers a dual-core CPU in a developer phone will hinder developers from taking advantage of the specs in true high-end phones.

I also find the idea of benchmarks funny. All the time you see people come on here try and defend or promote their favorite or least favorite devices by using or ignoring benchmarks. People just pull benchmarks out of their *** to suit their arguments and then ignore them when it doesn't. I am not saying benchmarks are or are not important, I am just making an observation as to how they are often used on these forums.

The GNex had a dual-core CPU. If you think Google will go from a dual-core to a quad-core and then back to a dual-core, you are thinking about this all wrong.

But at least you have shown articles mentioning Motorola Nexus device prototypes and leaks, oh wait...
 

gotluck

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Not that Wimberly carries any weight but here's your article

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/08/rumor-motorola-nexus-coming-in-q4/#more-116839

I was browsing Reddit/r/android and there were many remarks with CPU monitors up showing activity on only two cores while playing Riptide rush I think its called / modern combat 4, apparently the most demanding game or something . I'm admit idly not much of a phone gamer. I would be interested if u had hard info on android running all 4 cores. I understand the app must be specifically designed to take advantage of more than 2 cores and I haven't heard of anything aside from instagram when it launches.
 
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mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Many newer games actually do take advantage of all 4 cores.

And let's not forget the Nexus devices are developer devices. So Google will want to push out high spec'd devices to have developers use it and make their apps take advantage of it. That is what a quad-core CPU allows. Giving developers a dual-core CPU in a developer phone will hinder developers from taking advantage of the specs in true high-end phones.

I also find the idea of benchmarks funny. All the time you see people come on here try and defend or promote their favorite or least favorite devices by using or ignoring benchmarks. People just pull benchmarks out of their *** to suit their arguments and then ignore them when it doesn't. I am not saying benchmarks are or are not important, I am just making an observation as to how they are often used on these forums.

The GNex had a dual-core CPU. If you think Google will go from a dual-core to a quad-core and then back to a dual-core, you are thinking about this all wrong.

But at least you have shown articles mentioning Motorola Nexus device prototypes and leaks, oh wait...


Would you rather have a quad core just to have one or a dual core with better optimized software? Look at apple....they seem to be showing it is all about software and not specs.
 

MindsEye

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May 3, 2010
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Would you rather have a quad core just to have one or a dual core with better optimized software? Look at apple....they seem to be showing it is all about software and not specs.

Agreed wholeheartedly. Until Apple adopts quad core CPU's for their iDevices (if ever that is) its just spec whoring plain and simple. Having great specs and great software is mutually exclusive.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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Agreed wholeheartedly. Until Apple adopts quad core CPU's for their iDevices (if ever that is) its just spec whoring plain and simple. Having great specs and great software is mutually exclusive.

I think you meant mutually independent :)
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Lte is a given so don't worry about that.

What I'm more worried about is storage size options. Google needs to either get rid of the 8 GB or at least also offer a 32gb version.
 

Frankied22

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Nov 24, 2010
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Lte is a given so don't worry about that.

What I'm more worried about is storage size options. Google needs to either get rid of the 8 GB or at least also offer a 32gb version.

I agree. I want a 32GB option. I prefer to keep a lot of my music pinned to my device because I don't have unlimited data and sometimes I don't have good service. I also like to download lots of podcasts, some of which are video.
 

strausd

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Jul 11, 2008
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Would you rather have a quad core just to have one or a dual core with better optimized software? Look at apple....they seem to be showing it is all about software and not specs.

The Snapdragon 800 completely murders the dual-core S4 in the Moto X. And if the next Nexus smartphone is based on the Moto X, which there is no evidence to support, then it will have the same dual-core CPU. However, if the Nexus 5 is based on the LG G2, then it will have the more powerful Snapdragon 800.

Not sure how optimized software comes in. Running stock Android, the Snapdragon 800 destroys the Moto X's dual core no matter what.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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So the Droid life article blowing up with comments counts as 'no evidence' huh? Everything is rumors at this point.

Unless you have some insider info that you should share with us
 

inselstudent

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2012
617
4
Sounds interesting

http://9to5google.com/2013/08/08/report-motorola-to-produce-new-nexus-device-will-be-released-in-q4/
 

dkersten

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2010
589
2
But the Moto X technically uses the same chipset as the Nexus 4 but with two less cores. Krait 300 is the CPU used in the Snapdragon 600 chipsets.

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Devices sold through the Play Store are unlocked and uses GSM/UMTS standards so it's highly implausible for a Verizon device to be dealt through Google.

I know, but one can dream right?
 

meaty

macrumors member
Feb 27, 2011
98
5
Many newer games actually do take advantage of all 4 cores.

And let's not forget the Nexus devices are developer devices. So Google will want to push out high spec'd devices to have developers use it and make their apps take advantage of it. That is what a quad-core CPU allows. Giving developers a dual-core CPU in a developer phone will hinder developers from taking advantage of the specs in true high-end phones.

I also find the idea of benchmarks funny. All the time you see people come on here try and defend or promote their favorite or least favorite devices by using or ignoring benchmarks. People just pull benchmarks out of their *** to suit their arguments and then ignore them when it doesn't. I am not saying benchmarks are or are not important, I am just making an observation as to how they are often used on these forums.

The GNex had a dual-core CPU. If you think Google will go from a dual-core to a quad-core and then back to a dual-core, you are thinking about this all wrong.

But at least you have shown articles mentioning Motorola Nexus device prototypes and leaks, oh wait...

its not going to be called the nexus 5
 
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