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alex_free

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Ooooo... That's a good idea... I'll have to consider doing that in the future cuz yea... even when I organize using traditional means I end up with extra screws >.>

It adds some additional time, but the sketch only has to make sense to you so not that much detail is required. As long as the screws stay on the paper in the drawn screw holes, and you know what drawing is what section of what your taking apart, it’s good enough.

And you can just reuse them next time.
 
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It adds some additional time, but the sketch only has to make sense to you so not that much detail is required. As long as the screws stay on the paper in the drawn screw holes, and you know what drawing is what section of what your taking apart, it’s good enough.

And you can just reuse them next time.

ifixit guides are great.


That and some way to store your screws by step. I like ice cube trays.
 

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It adds some additional time, but the sketch only has to make sense to you so not that much detail is required. As long as the screws stay on the paper in the drawn screw holes, and you know what drawing is what section of what your taking apart, it’s good enough.

And you can just reuse them next time.
ifixit guides are great.


That and some way to store your screws by step. I like ice cube trays.
Thanks for the tips! They’re much appreciated :D
 

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I've always found that a combo of iFixit guides and simply setting the screws aside in the same general physical pattern they're arranged in while installed, and separating out the layers of screws into different areas helps. I realize that's not the most helpful description; I'm going to be taking apart another iBook in the next week or so and I'll happily take pictures to show you what I mean :)
 

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I use old prescription medication bottles for screws. Each set of screws goes into its own bottle, and then I close the cap when that set is done so I don't lose them forever when the dog knocks them over. If it's a really involved project with a lot of different screws, I'll put a post-it note on each bottle with a number indicating the order in which they came off.
 

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I've always found that a combo of iFixit guides and simply setting the screws aside in the same general physical pattern they're arranged in while installed, and separating out the layers of screws into different areas helps. I realize that's not the most helpful description; I'm going to be taking apart another iBook in the next week or so and I'll happily take pictures to show you what I mean :)
I'd love to see pictures :D
I use old prescription medication bottles for screws. Each set of screws goes into its own bottle, and then I close the cap when that set is done so I don't lose them forever when the dog knocks them over. If it's a really involved project with a lot of different screws, I'll put a post-it note on each bottle with a number indicating the order in which they came off.
I generally use coffee cans to store screws :)
 
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bobesch

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These are my little helpers from long-term-storage over step-by-step to complicated-mix (like within the iBook) ...
For the complicated-mix screws are pricked through the paper - and can be fixed with sticky-tape for long-term-storage.
Icecube-trays and medication bottles are also great ideas, but here most pills are blistered and our only ice cube-tray is in the fridge ...
Screws.JPG
 
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I've always found that a combo of iFixit guides and simply setting the screws aside in the same general physical pattern they're arranged in while installed, and separating out the layers of screws into different areas helps. I realize that's not the most helpful description; I'm going to be taking apart another iBook in the next week or so and I'll happily take pictures to show you what I mean :)

When I replaced the keyboard from a non backlit to a backlit model on my 08 aluminum unibody, while researching the process, I found a great How-to YT video Describing the process in detail. Anyhow, the tuber said this is exactly What he does - draws a general layout on a sheet of paper & then just lays the screws where he took them from. I am way too clumsy so stick to my ice cube tray (I have magnetic tape stuck on the bottom of each cube to keep them from flying out in case I dropped it).

Anyhow I think the schematic/screwmap is a fantastic idea.
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@RogerWilco6502 I still have Vintage coffee cans full of screws & bolts & nails that my grandpa had in his garage back in Loveland Ohio - Will never get rid of those.

Another handy trick is to stick a few magnets at the top of your screw driver. It will magnetize the tip so you don’t drop a screw & if you do, it’s a handy trick for retrieving them. I have a set of rare earth magnets that I bought at a local hardware store For 6 er7 bucks iirc That are the size of large watch batteries. Anyhow I use those.
 
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I've been put in charge of inventory at my job, and I've been trying to figure out for months how to manage it (it was just plain chaos). I was instructed to give it some type of structure..
I was going to use MS excel, until I decided that I didn't to put in that much work lol. I remembered reading about Filemaker. I decided to use a PPC mac for something productive for once, and set up an inventory.

I decided on a 500Mhz iBook G3 I had laying around, that also happens to be the only laptop I own other than my 15" PBG4 and surface pro that has a working battery. It's also running OS 9 because it only has 256MB of ram. So far I've set up a pretty good database of the inventory on it. It's been working perfect so far. I usually don't like using OS 9 but for this single purpose, it's great! It boots to the desktop and opens my database faster than my work computer (a Dell running Windows 7 with an i7) even gets to the login screen.

Don't tell me PPC Macs, or even Mac OS 9 aren't useful in 2020!
 

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I've been put in charge of inventory at my job, and I've been trying to figure out for months how to manage it (it was just plain chaos). I was instructed to give it some type of structure..
I was going to use MS excel, until I decided that I didn't to put in that much work lol. I remembered reading about Filemaker. I decided to use a PPC mac for something productive for once, and set up an inventory.

I decided on a 500Mhz iBook G3 I had laying around, that also happens to be the only laptop I own other than my 15" PBG4 and surface pro that has a working battery. It's also running OS 9 because it only has 256MB of ram. So far I've set up a pretty good database of the inventory on it. It's been working perfect so far. I usually don't like using OS 9 but for this single purpose, it's great! It boots to the desktop and opens my database faster than my work computer (a Dell running Windows 7 with an i7) even gets to the login screen.

Don't tell me PPC Macs, or even Mac OS 9 aren't useful in 2020!


I've been put in charge of inventory at my job, and I've been trying to figure out for months how to manage it (it was just plain chaos). I was instructed to give it some type of structure..
I was going to use MS excel, until I decided that I didn't to put in that much work lol. I remembered reading about Filemaker. I decided to use a PPC mac for something productive for once, and set up an inventory.

I decided on a 500Mhz iBook G3 I had laying around, that also happens to be the only laptop I own other than my 15" PBG4 and surface pro that has a working battery. It's also running OS 9 because it only has 256MB of ram. So far I've set up a pretty good database of the inventory on it. It's been working perfect so far. I usually don't like using OS 9 but for this single purpose, it's great! It boots to the desktop and opens my database faster than my work computer (a Dell running Windows 7 with an i7) even gets to the login screen.

Don't tell me PPC Macs, or even Mac OS 9 aren't useful in 2020!

Very cool. What are you inventorying BTW? Will FMP synch up to a POS to automatically deduct customer purchases from inventory? That single feature Takes inventory management From nightmarish PITA to easy in 3-2-1 & is also helpful to identify on hand par thresholds so you know when to reorder if you are in a truck to shelf retail environment - not so much in distribution system management but there are different tools for that - Quickbooks or Sage are examples of software for that sort of management.

Also, what if your ibook dies? How does FMP backup? A cloud feature would be handy for this.

Inventory Woof!!! :D
 
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Trying to figure out why my 2005 original Tiger retail disk has a disk integrity problem in it, that is right before install, it does a check on the disc and it seems my disc is bad. Don't see how, since it was in a sleeve all these years.
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I was playing around with OS 8.6 today on a Sawtooth with a rare 400MHz IBM G4. For those that don't know... a vast majority of G4 chips are made by Motorola.

It really brings back a lot of memories.

Any differences in 8.6 ? I know my G4 Sawtooth originally in late 1999-2000 when I bought it came with OS 9. Never used 8.
 

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Any differences in 8.6 ? I know my G4 Sawtooth originally in late 1999-2000 when I bought it came with OS 9. Never used 8.

I love 8.6. It's widely condidered the most stable classic Mac OS. Visually and functinally it's identical to 9, sans a couple new features 9 had. I actually never ran 9 as my OS back then. It wasn't until years later that I did. I went from 8.6 to 10.2.
 

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Anyone ?

Trying to figure out why my 2005 original Tiger retail disk has a disk integrity problem in it, that is right before install, it does a check on the disc and it seems my disc is bad. Don't see how, since it was in a sleeve all these years.
 

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Anyone ?

Trying to figure out why my 2005 original Tiger retail disk has a disk integrity problem in it, that is right before install, it does a check on the disc and it seems my disc is bad. Don't see how, since it was in a sleeve all these years.
Optical discs tend to lose data integrity after 15-20 years. Back in the days when I still burned CD's and DVD's I remember some of the cheaper ones losing integrity after just 5-6 years. Apple would use a higher quality of disc, but even then they will still fail after a couple decades.

My advice to anyone with a lot of older important optical discs is to make a .dmg backup.
 

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Very cool. What are you inventorying BTW? Will FMP synch up to a POS to automatically deduct customer purchases from inventory? That single feature Takes inventory management From nightmarish PITA to easy in 3-2-1 & is also helpful to identify on hand par thresholds so you know when to reorder if you are in a truck to shelf retail environment - not so much in distribution system management but there are different tools for that - Quickbooks or Sage are examples of software for that sort of management.

Also, what if your ibook dies? How does FMP backup? A cloud feature would be handy for this.

Inventory Woof!!! :D
I work for the County Sheriff’s office. I just take care of jail inventory so really not a lot of stuff at all. It isn’t my main job, just something that has to be done in off time.

It’s really just to help give me some structure and keep track of what I need to order.
If the iBook dies, (unlikely as the battery only has 9 cycles) I’m not sure how often FMP saves, but so far all I have had to do is enter stuff, close out of the window and it has already saved itself. If I need to view my inventory on a work PC I can export it to an XML file and stick it on a USB drive.
 
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I work for the County Sheriff’s office. I just take care of jail inventory so really not a lot of stuff at all. It isn’t my main job, just something that has to be done in off time.

It’s really just to help give me some structure and keep track of what I need to order.
If the iBook dies, (unlikely as the battery only has 9 cycles) I’m not sure how often FMP saves, but so far all I have had to do is enter stuff, close out of the window and it has already saved itself. If I need to view my inventory on a work PC I can export it to an XML file and stick it on a USB drive.

Outside of Sage/quickbooks at work, I export to xls & operate within an excel spreadsheet I made that includes all the necessary formulation I require to calculate period & quarterly COGs.

That being said, all of our financial data is backed up to Internal servers & the cloud. No idea who IT uses lol.
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@Macbookprodude Can’t you skip the integrity check & proceed To the install? Does the install fail?
 
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repairedCheese

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And here I am, still hosting media on my 2ghz G5. That doesn't sound hugely meaningful, but I did just build myself a Ryzen 5 3600 system, with 16gb of ram, and an Nvidia 2060 RTX. Of course that's running Windows 10, and of course, it could host files, but my G5 running 10.5 gives me more options on that front. Like, built in ftp, for example.

I do mean still, too, because I host my music library there, among other things, and I play my music every day. It's almost always getting used. It's nice.
 

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Optical discs tend to lose data integrity after 15-20 years. Back in the days when I still burned CD's and DVD's I remember some of the cheaper ones losing integrity after just 5-6 years. Apple would use a higher quality of disc, but even then they will still fail after a couple decades.

My advice to anyone with a lot of older important optical discs is to make a .dmg backup.

Ah, that explains it - so, if I were to save it as an image and then burn it to a new DVD, will that work ? The installer itself, coming from Apple is not a bad installer, just that the original X tiger disc failed disc check integrity.
 

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Removed the gigabit Ethernet card from my Sawtooth. It turns out that I don’t get gigabit speeds from my ISP so I removed the card. I’m still gonna keep the card in case something happens to the built-in Ethernet port.
 

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Removed the gigabit Ethernet card from my Sawtooth. It turns out that I don’t get gigabit speeds from my ISP so I removed the card. I’m still gonna keep the card in case something happens to the built-in Ethernet port.
You don't have a home network?
 
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