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Macbookprodude

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Never ever open a hard drive - unless you're keen on losing your data. Consult a data recovery company and be prepared to pay.

Ok, so the hard drive that was in my PowerBook G4 1.67 upon impact with the floor, activated the sudden motion sensor found in leopard.. how do I get the hard drive to function if the heads are locked due to the sudden motion sensor technology ? I don’t have any way to place the drive in a native IDE system. It’s a clicking noise the drive is making which Apple describes as the sudden motion sensor doing its job, but how to deactivate it and get the drive heads out of this position ? Drive worked fine before this.
 

Amethyst1

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how to deactivate it and get the drive heads out of this position ?

This is supposed to happen automatically when the drive returns to a normal position. If yours doesn't do that it's been damaged. The clicking noise you hear as the drive tries to spin up is a sure sign of that. In simple words - the drive is dead.
 
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Macbookprodude

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Surely as an experienced Mac user you have backups?

Cheers :)

Hugh
In my G5, I have exact duplicates - but of the new stuff and downloads I made, no. I know a friend who does data recovery and he can assist me to get the data off the drive. When I tried to hook it up externally, the clicking didn’t go away, but if I can move the head back from the platter - “watched several YouTube movies about how to do this”, then there is a chance.
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To open the HDD, do I need a torx 6 or 5 ?
 

AshleyPomeroy

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I made even more music, or at least I mixed it and then listened to it with speakers and decided to tone down the reverb
https://soundcloud.com/ashley-pomeroy%2Fmetronome
Logic has a "bounce in place" feature that essentially renders a track with all of its effects as a separate audio file, which is useful because the processing overhead for just playing audio files is very small. This track uses a mixture of physical instruments (the evolving bassline is a multi-layered Behringer Model D, some of the drums are from a Korg Volca Sample) and virtual instruments (the buzzy lead line and the stabs in the background):

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The place I work has a policy whereby any leave you have already booked has to be taken. You can't cancel it, otherwise everybody would cancel and rebook leave in September / October, and the place would be empty! This is unfortunate because on 21 May I was due to fly to Greenland to walk the arctic circle trail, and if all had gone well I would right now be on a ferry from Sisimiut to Ilulissat.

Instead I'm sitting at home. The good thing is that I can order large objects from the internet and not have to take a day off work to accept them. I keep looking at the Mac Pro 1,1. It's hobbled by a 32-bit bootloader which limits it to OS X 10.7.5, but that's not a huge problem because I would literally only be using it for Logic 9. It also has PCI slots, so I can continue to use my excellent old MOTU audio interface.

But on the other hand I could pay slightly more and get a slightly more modern Mac Pro and actually use it as a general-purpose computer, except that there are only a handful of late aluminium Mac Pros on eBay in the UK, and they're ludicrously overpriced, perhaps on the assumption that the tubular Mac Pro was a dog and the modern Mac Pro is thousands upon thousands of pounds.
 

RogerWilco6502

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I made even more music, or at least I mixed it and then listened to it with speakers and decided to tone down the reverb
https://soundcloud.com/ashley-pomeroy%2Fmetronome
Logic has a "bounce in place" feature that essentially renders a track with all of its effects as a separate audio file, which is useful because the processing overhead for just playing audio files is very small. This track uses a mixture of physical instruments (the evolving bassline is a multi-layered Behringer Model D, some of the drums are from a Korg Volca Sample) and virtual instruments (the buzzy lead line and the stabs in the background):

iS0r5Cg.jpg


The place I work has a policy whereby any leave you have already booked has to be taken. You can't cancel it, otherwise everybody would cancel and rebook leave in September / October, and the place would be empty! This is unfortunate because on 21 May I was due to fly to Greenland to walk the arctic circle trail, and if all had gone well I would right now be on a ferry from Sisimiut to Ilulissat.

Instead I'm sitting at home. The good thing is that I can order large objects from the internet and not have to take a day off work to accept them. I keep looking at the Mac Pro 1,1. It's hobbled by a 32-bit bootloader which limits it to OS X 10.7.5, but that's not a huge problem because I would literally only be using it for Logic 9. It also has PCI slots, so I can continue to use my excellent old MOTU audio interface.

But on the other hand I could pay slightly more and get a slightly more modern Mac Pro and actually use it as a general-purpose computer, except that there are only a handful of late aluminium Mac Pros on eBay in the UK, and they're ludicrously overpriced, perhaps on the assumption that the tubular Mac Pro was a dog and the modern Mac Pro is thousands upon thousands of pounds.
Sounds awesome! I still need to get around to making something on my PPC macs :p
 

MacFoxG4

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Attempted to swap RAM from my broken PowerBook G3 Main Street to my PDQ. Accidentally broke the tabs on the lower RAM slot so now I only have one 256 MB stick of RAM in the upper slot.
 

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I installed OS X Tiger on my 12" PowerBook today. It has been sitting unused since I got the Tibook, so I figured I should see what I missed in 2005. I like Tiger. Visually I find it much more appealing than Leopard.

I'm not sure what to do with it though. I won't use it for my MSP/sysadmin work due to security concerns, but I might make it into a dev platform to try some of my code on it and test portability.
 
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eyoungren

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I installed OS X Tiger on my 12" PowerBook today. It has been sitting unused since I got the Tibook, so I figured I should see what I missed in 2005. I like Tiger. Visually I find it much more appealing than Leopard.

I'm not sure what to do with it though. I won't use it for my MSP/sysadmin work due to security concerns, but I might make it into a dev platform to try some of my code on it and test portability.
Finally someone agrees with me. :D
Leopard looks good to me! ;)

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eyoungren

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder *hides* ;)
There is one thing I miss about Tiger and that is the ability to use Shapeshifter. You can get a total theme with that. Everything I've done to my Leopard Macs has been cobbled together in bits and pieces and there is no way to change the background of folders when viewing in List View. Shapeshifter allows that.

At one point on Tiger I had tracked down and was alternating between Rough Draft and BBX Mercury, both themes that originally started with Kaliedoscope on OS9.
 
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Macbookprodude

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Surely as an experienced Mac user you have backups?

Cheers :)

Hugh

Yes, on the PM G5 I backed up awhile back the original user directory that cane with the PowerBook G4, however I have since added to that plus have another leopard directory which was not backed up. But in either case, I got a call from my friend and he fixed it, but advised me to back the new stuff up. All he had to do was move the drive read/write arm to the home or lock position. He was able to get it working.
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Finally someone agrees with me. :D

The only thing I don’t like about tiger - the ability in disk utility to add more than one partition which Leo supports.
 
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bobesch

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There is one thing I miss about Tiger and that is the ability to use Shapeshifter. You can get a total theme with that. Everything I've done to my Leopard Macs has been cobbled together in bits and pieces and there is no way to change the background of folders when viewing in List View. Shapeshifter allows that.
At one point on Tiger I had tracked down and was alternating between Rough Draft and BBX Mercury, both themes that originally started with Kaliedoscope on OS9.

Looking back the last two decades (Win, PalmOS, WinMo, Mac, iOS) my attitude how to run things has moved away from finicky adjustments and sophisticated utilities to a way running things the standard-way. Only utilities to speed up things, like Onyx or TinkerTook etc. are still aboard.
It's because of both poor memory and frequent OS-updates/upgrades that make me want to keep things as simple and standard as possible.
 

eyoungren

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Looking back the last two decades (Win, PalmOS, WinMo, Mac, iOS) my attitude how to run things has moved away from finicky adjustments and sophisticated utilities to a way running things the standard-way. Only utilities to speed up things, like Onyx or TinkerTook etc. are still aboard.
It's because of both poor memory and frequent OS-updates/upgrades that make me want to keep things as simple and standard as possible.
I've always like tinkering to make the things I use truly mine - or truly how I want them to look. I don't believe that will ever change, no matter how old I get (I just jailbroke my 6th Gen iPad yesterday). I'm not as rash to update or upgrade as I used to be as I've experienced how things can break, but I still like to customize my stuff.

The other day I was working with that new (to me) HTC Touch Pro I got and all the memories of what I did back from 2009 to 2013 came flooding back. Trip down memory lane.

We all have different things we want out of the stuff we own and I'm glad that with these older Macs we can choose to go as far or as little as we wish. Sadly, with more modern Macs that option is being taken away from us.
 

bobesch

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I've always like tinkering to make the things I use truly mine - or truly how I want them to look. I don't believe that will ever change, no matter how old I get (I just jailbroke my 6th Gen iPad yesterday). I'm not as rash to update or upgrade as I used to be as I've experienced how things can break, but I still like to customize my stuff.

The other day I was working with that new (to me) HTC Touch Pro I got and all the memories of what I did back from 2009 to 2013 came flooding back. Trip down memory lane.

We all have different things we want out of the stuff we own and I'm glad that with these older Macs we can choose to go as far or as little as we wish. Sadly, with more modern Macs that option is being taken away from us.

Fully agree!
And I have to admit, my change of attitude is mainly because of poor memory ...
I try to keep all my Macs look the same and be organized the same - so things and add-ons, that do not fit into that scheme are likely to get sorted out.
My eager to update/upgrade has also calmed down. Tiger/Leopard(PPC), Lion (intel /w 32bit Efi) and Mojave (all other Intels) are the end of updates for now. My fastest workhorse for scanning/OCR is still on ElCapitan (never change a running team), even if it's my only machine, that can officially be upgraded to Catalina.
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Hey, since you're in Germany and get better beer, do you get better beauty?! :D
Oh, sometimes even the best beer isn't of any help ...
 
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RogerWilco6502

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Updated my website to include the MacBook I recieved in the mail today on my iBook (video on said MacBook will come shortly) also am slowly working my way through the weekly backups that I do.
 
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