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Riku7

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I'd probably try playing dumb and say "My windows are all closed" or something like that. Just to see what happens.
I don't know... It has trees in it? It looks clean to me: I washed my Windows but I love my Mac.

In hindsight, I wish I had told her to take my number off their database immediately because if I ever got one more call from them, I would get them all caught: as it happens, I spent the last three and a half years reverse engineering things and I can now accurately trace their calls while bypassing the fake phone numbers that they use as masks. (Emphasis on: so I would've told...)
 
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alex_free

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Got this working on Tiger!
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I was doing some text processing on my iMac G4 and it was offline because I rarely have any reason to connect it to the internet.

Then, I got one of those scam phone calls from "tech support" and a foreign woman "from tech support" wanted tell me that "my Windows is infeceted." Aww hun, I haven't had one of those since Windows 98!
Should have let her try to install their Windows spyware or whatever it was onto your airgapped G4 and record the hilarity.
 

TheShortTimer

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The most hilarious thing is when they stupidly go on with their script. "Click Start" over and over again.

Check out this guy, he has a wealth of videos in which he outmanoeuvres these scammers and wipes and/or locks their WinBoxes and then watches them explode with ire when they realise what's happened. Karmic pleasure and NSFW language. 😂

 

wicknix

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Not really today, but the last few weeks i've been using MorphOS on my mini as a daily driver. The more i use it, the more i like it. I'm about a month in, and after installing a bunch of software and games/emulators, i think i've finally widdled it down to what i will use. Over all i'm happy that i purchased a key for it.

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TheShortTimer

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Not really today, but the last few weeks i've been using MorphOS on my mini as a daily driver. The more i use it, the more i like it. I'm about a month in, and after installing a bunch of software and games/emulators, i think i've finally widdled it down to what i will use.

Which emulators and games have you been installing?
 
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Imixmuan

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Not really today, but the last few weeks i've been using MorphOS on my mini as a daily driver. The more i use it, the more i like it. I'm about a month in, and after installing a bunch of software and games/emulators, i think i've finally widdled it down to what i will use. Over all i'm happy that i purchased a key for it.

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Cheers
Can you report on Wayfarer for us? Decent browser?
 
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wicknix

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Oh man... there is too many to list. Between MOS native games and Amiga games it's an endless sea.

Emulators: ace, atari 800, basilisk II, bochs, colEm, commodore 128, dgen, dosbox, e-uae, fcue, genesisplus, hatari, mame, mess, mgba, smsplus, snes9x and stella so far.

Games: ace of hearts, amiga racer, askmeup, battle squadron, birdie shoot, boxikon, candy crisis, chromium bsu, diamonds, duke3d, foobilliard, fortis, gianas revenge, islands mini golf, lightening spirit, ltris, neverball, minesweeper, open tyrian, doom (prboom), scummvm, technoballz, the goonies, voxel bird, wings battlefield, xump.

It's really endless if you spend time searching the net.

Here's my unregistered copy i just set up last night on my powerbook dual booting with leopard.

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wicknix

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Can you report on Wayfarer for us? Decent browser?
Yeah it's coming along nicely. Once out of beta it should be pretty sweet. It'll get you in to google drive/docs/maps etc. It's a little heavy on my G4, but it is 2020 webkit so thats to be expected. I still use OWB for general browsing as its pretty quick and only a few sites don't render properly with it.
 

Imixmuan

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Yeah it's coming along nicely. Once out of beta it should be pretty sweet. It'll get you in to google drive/docs/maps etc. It's a little heavy on my G4, but it is 2020 webkit so thats to be expected. I still use OWB for general browsing as its pretty quick and only a few sites don't render properly with it.
Speaking of browsers, and I know this is the wrong thread but the new Arctic Fox is awesome. Love the m.youtube built in, today I was playing 720p in the browser on a white macbook 2007 and CPU was under 50%. Tenfivetube is even better of course. AF won't get me into Google Maps, but I tried it and I experienced a weird and disturbing bug where the map started flashing all of the pics in my Google images account. So much for privacy if you use the G!
 

wicknix

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Yeah some 10.6+ users didn't like the mobile YT override, but since the ppc linux machines can't handle polymer YT very well i figured it was time to make the change, and it's an easy about:config adjustment if someone wants the desktop layout back.

Heh. G and privacy. I still use a lot of their services, but yeah, i hear ya.
 

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Spent way too much time trying to get a dual core G5 up and running. Where to begin...

Whoever decided that these things don't need a hardware button to open the optical drive deserves a major punch in the face. It's quintessentially Apple: a terrible decision that sacrifices functionality to make something look sleeker. Useless idiots. Moving on...

For some odd reason, OpenBSD tries to make and mount the /tmp partition on wd0b, and creates no swap in the installer. Then when it boots, it mounts wd0b as swap, and you get no /tmp. This of course wreaks havoc, because things actually want /tmp and it's gone. Manually moving some partitions around and adjusting /etc/fstab and it works, but I wanted to reinstall, now that I know this can happen.

So, I tried again, and OpenBSD installed fine on the first hard drive I tried (manually fixing this strange partition behavior), but Open Firmware could not find it. Verified that the partitioning scheme was correct, nothing was corrupt, ofwboot was present, etc. Nothing. I am 100% sure everything was fine.

Tried a different hard drive and it magically worked (and was exactly the same setup as the first drive that failed, yes I checked). Got everything installed, but the Nvidia Geforce whatever-it's-called doesn't get detected even though it's supported by the nv driver and even though it actually sends console output to it. No big deal, I wanted to run an ATI card anyway, I'll just open it up and plug in the X1900 G5 Mac edition that should work fine.

The system won't boot with the 2nd GPU in a different pcie slot. Okay time to crack open the case again and pull out the Nvidia POS and put the ATI in its place.

lol nope. It is detected fine by the ramdisk, but when booting /bsd, now the kernel hangs before trying to run fw_update. Whacked the power button, brough it back up, and now it tries to load the radeondrm driver that it doesn't have, and lands in ddb.

So the only solution now is to open the case again, put the Nvidia back in, boot it, finish fw_update, power off, pull the Nvidia out, and put the X1900 in its place, then boot and hope it doesn't hang again. But I'm too irritated to do this now.
 

z970

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x1900 mac cards won't work, they use a reduced video BIOS where a part of it is supplied by the OS later, I don't think anybody figured out how to make it work on linux

I'm willing to bet that the OpenBSD macppc port maintainers never got much farther either, unless they somewhere along the line forgot to share their discovery with the rest of the world.

From over three years of experimentation, I've found that the 11,2 G5s are only good in anything but OS X (sans BSD) with the stock 6600, and if equipped with an X1900, only work in OS X. Prior models have more freedom of configuration in comparison.
 
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I'm willing to bet that the OpenBSD macppc port maintainers never got much farther either, unless they somewhere along the line forgot to share their discovery with the rest of the world.

From over three years of experimentation, I've found that the 11,2 G5s are only good in anything but OS X (sans BSD) with the stock 6600, and if equipped with an X1900, only work in OS X. Prior models have more freedom of configuration in comparison.
Thanks, yeah that would make sense. I'm pretty close to giving up on this thing. So many annoyances about it that I'm not sure it's worth it.
 
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gearlobe

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I pulled out my 12" PowerBook recently to play games. I'm testing how it can handle PS1 games. Everything takes so long with 768MB RAM and a PATA hard drive >.<
Once I get sick of waiting for pages to load though I fire up old Star Wars Racers. It's a new lap record!
 
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alex_free

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Earlier today I finally finished installing GCC 7.4 with Kencu’s TigerPorts. GCC 7.4.0 is from 2018! And it seems as long as what your compiling doesn’t need newer Mac OS X frameworks, whatever you compile with it works on 10.3.9!

I’ve also updated the official SM64EX port pull request to use GCC 7.4, will this be the newest game (the irony) currently with official Panther support?
 

eyoungren

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17" PowerBook is going in the garage as soon as I can make space for it. The 'desk' I will have it sitting on is temporarily occupied by two vertical monitors in a kludgy set up. I have a dual display mount coming (hopefully by Friday) and once that gets here I can mount the displays properly and then put this Mac on the 'desk'.

Going to be supporting the Mini (which is using those twin displays) and the 17" MBP. Right now I've got the predecessor of Nightingale (Songbird) installed on the PB and monitoring my music folder on the server. Screencap shows it scanning for artwork. I thought it was pretty cool that the default skin for Songbird is dark. Since I made it dark with Nightingale on my other Intels it coordinates pretty well.

Much to be said for a centralized music location.

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z970

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@micahgartman That makes me glad.

Credit to MSFN's Looking4awayout on a portion of TenFourFoxPEP, though. Through his UOC Patch, he originally did the brunt work of scrolling optimization for Firefox 45, although I fine-tuned it further over the iterations.

I think someone should probably tell Cameron to give the project a serious second look for all of TFF's G3 and G4 users. He was originally notified (I believe back in the summer) in the dev blog's comment section, but most of what little he explored pertained to @eyoungren's tweaks, so I don't think it was that relevant for PEP.

Anyway ... if you're shooting for maximum performance, my suggestion is that you shouldn't just optimize the browser, but the OS too.

The A-Trimcelerators will turn your 'Book into a lean, mean, PowerPC machine! :D
 
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eyoungren

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…but most of what little he explored pertained to @eyoungren's tweaks…
Cameron's opinion about the work I've put in is that it's both extreme and edge case. I understand that. He's developing for the 'average' user and aside from four CPUs he has to make reasonably sure that the app is going to run on most systems. For me, all I was ever concerned about was my own set up and how I browse the internet, which is not suitable for everyone.

In short he's aware of what we all are doing here, he just has to be conservative about what he chooses to implement - the consequences go beyond our own community here.
 

Dronecatcher

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In short he's aware of what we all are doing here, he just has to be conservative about what he chooses to implement

Cameron disregards all the extra tweaks in FoxPEP - as TFF's coder he knows full well they can't work as they address features he himself has deactivated.

The ones that do work are the already established ones.
 
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