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MacFoxG4

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I assume this will run on a G4 Pismo(was G3) under tiger ?

It should.

Speaking of CCC, I ran it again today, but this time on my Sawtooth. I will be performing an SSD upgrade on the Sawtooth so I swapped the SSD I was using yesterday with the one I will be using with the Sawtooth and cloned the drive containing my Leopard setup. I connected the drive to one of the FW800 ports on a FireWire card I just installed. The process took about the same amount of time (90 minutes) to complete as it did on the iBook G3. I'm guessing this is due to either FW800 or the Sawtooth's 1.5ghz CPU, possibly both. I have a second hard drive on the Sawtooth running OS 9, so I backed up that drive to an image file and stored that file on the SSD. The Sawtooth will be a Leopard only Mac once I do the SSD upgrade, but I wanted to back up the OS 9 setup I had just in case I changed my mind or maybe I'll use the image on another OS9 capable Mac in the future.
 

RogerWilco6502

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Doing a little creative writing today. I find OS 9 to be the perfect writing environment. :)
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Dronecatcher

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Do it the @AphoticD way and go super minimal ;)

 

RogerWilco6502

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You could also set the screen to 256 greys for an even less distracting experience. Who needs colour when writing?
Do it the @AphoticD way and go super minimal ;)

You have a point about the colors (although my wallpaper is quite pretty) and I wouldn't mind typing on nano entirely ;)
 

Macbookprodude

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I have a question for all OS 9 users out there - when playing a dvd under DVD Player 2.7, I am hearing popping sounds - there was a fix fir this but I can’t seem to find the link. Does anyone remember how to fix the popping sound ? Also, is there a way to get iTunes 2.0.4 working again ? All I want to do is listen to radio while rebuilding my OS 9 library of what I can remember.
 

alex_free

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I have a question for all OS 9 users out there - when playing a dvd under DVD Player 2.7, I am hearing popping sounds - there was a fix fir this but I can’t seem to find the link. Does anyone remember how to fix the popping sound ? Also, is there a way to get iTunes 2.0.4 working again ? All I want to do is listen to radio while rebuilding my OS 9 library of what I can remember.

That’s what you meant, the radio feature? That’s long dead. About the DVD issue, no idea.
 

Macbookprodude

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That’s what you meant, the radio feature? That’s long dead. About the DVD issue, no idea.

Ok, also some good news - I did speak with Cameron Kaiser and he told me that classila is not abandoned, just he has been really busy.. but since you know a lot about OS 9 and CodeWarrior - maybe you can assist me in trying to get classila to work with most of not all modern security ?

When you mean long dead, not connecting to Apple’s server ? If I could get the new server address, can iTunes in OS 9 work again ? I also have Soundjam MP which may still work.
 

MacFoxG4

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I have a question for all OS 9 users out there - when playing a dvd under DVD Player 2.7, I am hearing popping sounds - there was a fix fir this but I can’t seem to find the link. Does anyone remember how to fix the popping sound ? Also, is there a way to get iTunes 2.0.4 working again ? All I want to do is listen to radio while rebuilding my OS 9 library of what I can remember.

When I was running OS 9 on my Sawtooth, I would get popping sounds/audio skips during DVD playback if I had a Radeon 9000 installed, hooked up to DVI and outputting a resolution higher than 1152x870. The solution I used was to set the Mac's resolution to 1152x870. I forget which hz rate I used.
 

alex_free

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Ok, also some good news - I did speak with Cameron Kaiser and he told me that classila is not abandoned, just he has been really busy.. but since you know a lot about OS 9 and CodeWarrior - maybe you can assist me in trying to get classila to work with most of not all modern security ?

When you mean long dead, not connecting to Apple’s server ? If I could get the new server address, can iTunes in OS 9 work again ? I also have Soundjam MP which may still work.

I don’t understand his directions to build Classilla, the building documentation in my opinion isn’t the best and OS 9 is nothing like a normal unix devlopment environment do I’m at a loss. I’ve already tried a few times and it never went anywhere.

I think radio is dead you would need the iTunes source code to do anything as far as I can tell.

I think your best shot is to use that TLS 1.2 library that requires the retro68k toolchain to compile, but you’d need to figure out how to compile Classilla with it.
 

eyoungren

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All I want to do is listen to radio while rebuilding my OS 9 library of what I can remember.

That’s what you meant, the radio feature? That’s long dead. About the DVD issue, no idea.

When you mean long dead, not connecting to Apple’s server ? If I could get the new server address, can iTunes in OS 9 work again ?

Not dead. Different.

Yes, if you try and use the radio feature of early versions of iTunes it will not work. But the radio function itself is not dead. You just have to approach it differently now. Find the streaming file of your radio station and open it with iTunes. Usually that is a .pls file. iTunes will add that to your library as a 'song' - which you can play (and therefore stream) just like you would any regular song.
 

eyoungren

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Ok, also some good news - I did speak with Cameron Kaiser and he told me that classila is not abandoned, just he has been really busy..
Do you know what his day job is?

Cameron is a research doctor. He works for Loma Linda University Medical Center in Loma Linda, Calif. and aside from his normal duties he also teaches classes.

Considering the current pandemic, I imagine he is far busier than he normally is. The fact that he can even maintain T4Fx is in itself remarkable.
 

Macbookprodude

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When I was running OS 9 on my Sawtooth, I would get popping sounds/audio skips during DVD playback if I had a Radeon 9000 installed, hooked up to DVI and outputting a resolution higher than 1152x870. The solution I used was to set the Mac's resolution to 1152x870. I forget which hz rate I used.

Hi, this is CORRECT as I vividly remember when I had a 350 Sawtooth with only OS 9(9.2.2 I think ?) it was long before OS X cane out. Talking 2000-2001 - that save noise you got us what I had to do, but this time I have a Pismo.
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Not dead. Different.

Yes, if you try and use the radio feature of early versions of iTunes it will not work. But the radio function itself is not dead. You just have to approach it differently now. Find the streaming file of your radio station and open it with iTunes. Usually that is a .pls file. iTunes will add that to your library as a 'song' - which you can play (and therefore stream) just like you would any regular song.

Ok, I will check to see if Life101.9 has this and if so, I can set that up - where in OS 9 do I find .pls files or in what folder ?
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Do you know what his day job is?

Cameron is a research doctor. He works for Loma Linda University Medical Center in Loma Linda, Calif. and aside from his normal duties he also teaches classes.

Considering the current pandemic, I imagine he is far busier than he normally is. The fact that he can even maintain T4Fx is in itself remarkable.

Correct, he told me this and he is in the medical field, however he just wanted to pass on the message that classila is not dead or abandoned.. just on hold. I even thanked him for creating TenFourFox to keep PPC alive. Once this pandemic is over, I plan to donate to him for his efforts, but he did mention Classila was created in CodeWarrior and anyone can work on the code to revise it. But no, it’s not dead he stated.
 
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eyoungren

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where in OS 9 do I find .pls files or in what folder ?
.pls files have nothing to do with iTunes or it's folder structure. These are streaming files that each internet radio station generates.

Example, SOMAFM and it's radio stations: https://somafm.com/listen/

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If you right click on those stream links you get the option to save the .pls file. That's what you add to iTunes.

Note that some radio stations don't post these links or they can be difficult to find.
 
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