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Tratkazir_the_1st

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Feb 11, 2020
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(A bit of HEAVY OOFFTOP follows :D )

It's a pity I can't install 1 of this monsters to my Quad... :)
 

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eyoungren

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Aug 31, 2011
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Video from July 25, 2011 (before I joined this site).

A1013 on the left (my original, the one with the failed L3 cache). A1139 on the right (HD-DLSD). Can't recall what drive the A1013 would have had, but the A1139 had a 320GB WD Blue.

The video was to see which Mac booted the fastest. At the time I was highly engaged on Facebook so this would have been posted there. Sorry for the crap quality, but…HTC Touch Pro. 🤷‍♂️



Second video was the race from login window to completion of all login items. The tone you (may) hear towards the end is one of the Macs loading Entourage (I think anyway).

 

wicknix

macrumors 68030
Jun 4, 2017
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Wisconsin, USA
So i finally got X11 working on the 17" PB i recently picked up. Wound up having to use the nvidiafb driver instead of the nouveau driver otherwise it would hang somewhere in the boot process. Now it happily dual boots Leopard and Ubuntu 12 remix. :)

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(shown running pithos for pandora radio, xchat w/bitlbee for discord access, and arcticfox for browsing)
 

Tratkazir_the_1st

macrumors 65816
Feb 11, 2020
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Russia, Moscow region
I've been trying to make multi-installer with USB flash stick (16Gb) yesterday. Partitioned it with Leoprad's DiskUtility (APM), dropped 2 distributions (Tiger & Leo). Interesting outcome - in OF Console I was able to use "dir" command & see some output only from 1 partition (didn't ever understood, which of 2). But my Macbook, been started with OPT - sees both of installers (not to mention it couldn't boot to any of them :D ). Later, I've started Debian to check OF paths to this USB stick. Both commands (ofpath & ofpathname) barked something that path could't be determined (one of them surely says that usb-storage is unsupported :D ). So I've come to conclusion that for multi-installer I need something like FireWire (& USB for my macbook) enclosure &some kind of HDD\SSD in it :).
 

alectrona6400

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Mar 1, 2019
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well this wasn't today but over the weekend i slapped OS9 onto a 1GHz eMac, put a radeon 7500 in my cube, upgraded my cube to 1.5GB RAM, installed 10.4 and need to fix 9 on the cube as well. also trying to experiment with BGA. might have someone slap a 7455 onto my QS CPU card and get that to maybe 1.4GHz. (1.25GHz 7455 from a SP MDD card possibly replacing a 7450 chip on an 800MHz QS card. might see if L3 cache can be transferred over too)
 

Riku7

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🎨 I'm trying to get back to drawing and painting, both digital and traditional. I tend to have too big ideas, and then I never dare to actually start. Today, I decided that I'd just pick one object from around the house and do an isolated study of it, nothing more. I've wanted to do pixel art too, to restrict me even more, so this would work well for such a study.

I found an object and photographed it. I moved the photos to iMac G4 and made a few editions of one of them in Photoshop to serve as better reference images (restricting resolution and color palette). In hindsight, I should've switched the camera to just shoot JPG and not RAW, because I can't remember how to get Bridge and Photoshop to work with RAW images. I had to find my old Canon solution discs and install some of their own weird software which at least let me view the images and export as JPG for Photoshop use, but it wasn't practical like the workflow in Bridge, camera RAW and Photoshop alone would've been. (If you know how to get that working, I'll appreciate your tips.)

I moved the processed reference images to my clamshell iBook, and started a painting based on the image, using an early 2000s Wacom tablet and old Photoshop. With the laptop, it feels like it's hard to get the display close enough when the tablet forces you to push the laptop further back quite a bit; So I attached a shelf to the desk, and lifted the clamshell on it while keeping all the peripherals on the desktop. This gave more room without having to push the screen too far. But because painting workflow involves using the keyboard a lot and it was now in an unpractical place, I tested plugging in more than just one USB device: Directly underneath the clamshell and plugged into its only USB port, a wired Apple keyboard. From the keyboard's USB ports, a mouse as well as the Wacom. I was quite surprised by the fact that old USB port can actually handle all three without problems! So now the clamshell is just the raised screen, and the keyboard, mouse, and Wacom are on the desk level, each nicely within reach. While painting, I used a portable CD player that's identical to the one I had as a teenager, except for its colour. Couldn't help but also pick a CD from those times, one that I hadn't listened to for a long long time.
 

Melbourne Park

macrumors 65816
On my PowerPC double mirror door (twin 1.0 PPC) I have a corruption in a drive, running OSX 105. So I used Superduper to image the drive onto another drive (new one too). While that drive's 10.4 partition works fine, the Superduper'ed image on the other partition, would also result (as in the original drive) with a loss of the drive. And a long rebuild using Diskwarrior - as Disk Utilities cannot recover the drive.

So - there's either virus there, or the system is corrupt.

So I pulled out the original 80GB drive, and put in a good condition drive I bought, which is a 250 GB, and I partitioned that.

I had downloaded 10.5 (I can't find any 10.5 install disk anywhere) and I burnt 10.5.6 (from Macintoshgarden) which was the only 10.5 I was able to download. I burnt it onto a double layer plus disk, on my CMP 5,1. Which by the way, burnt the disk in a couple of minutes - I have hardly used it's Superdrive, and it was surprisingly quick to burn. The disk appeared on my CMP's desktop as a disk.

But the disk drive in my PPC rejects the disk - it cannot read the 10.5 disk ...

So ... I might see if I boot of 10.4 from a drive, via placing the image of the disk onto a drive.

I hope I can install 10.5 onto the blank drive, by opening the image of the install disk, with it's data located on an internal hard drive .... if not, I cannot install a 10.5 disk onto a normal DVD disk which the PPC would read.

It's a bit frustrating .... most frustrating of all, is that I need to do this now, yet Sorbet Leopard is available on October 30th, 10 days from now .... Sheeeesh ....
 

Melbourne Park

macrumors 65816
Not to spoil your fun, but... IIRC @Dronecatcher noticed performance issues with a stripped-down Leopard image that were cured by using an untouched (dual-layer) image.
Hmm ... the problem I have is that I am uncertain about being able to install off a drive. Perhaps I could put the double layer image onto the partition of the new drive ... that might then boot the machine ... then install onto the other blank partition? I don't think booting from a USB is possible. For some reason too, my PowerPC won't boot from my main firewire drive. I think though, its because that firewire drive is a Studio II which has either a mirror or speed raid on it, and I guess, that software is not allowing the drive to be a boot drive.

I need to find the original file that I downloaded, which is 8.4 GB I think ... OS X 10.5.6 or OS X 10.5.8 .... I might have deleted that file!! I have the double layer drive though .... but I don't know how to copy it onto a USB drive, in a form where when it's copied onto a USB drive, and then it would need to be copied onto the empty partition ... so it will work as a separate boot drive ...

Sorry for the confusing expression ...
 

Amethyst1

macrumors G3
Oct 28, 2015
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Perhaps I could put the double layer image onto the partition of the new drive ... that might then boot the machine ... then install onto the other blank partition?
Yes, that's possible. You'll need two partitions on the Quicksilver's new drive - one to restore the Leopard install DVD image to (using e.g. Disk Utility) and another to install Leopard on. If you can hook up the drive to your Mac Pro using a FireWire or USB enclosure, I'd do the partitioning and restoring there. The drive needs to have an APM (Apple Partition Map) scheme for the Quicksilver to be able to boot from it.
 

mikas

macrumors 6502a
Sep 14, 2017
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Finland
Got to love all the abreviations and acronyms there exists in tech vocabulary. Makes life and understanding each other so much easier. Dual Layer Super Drive ?
 

alectrona6400

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Mar 1, 2019
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it's a 15. no real difference other than a larger screen, somewhat better cooling, and a larger resolution on the 17. i do have an A1095 although it's a little rough on the edges. not sure how that would compare to an early 05 or a DLSD. it does have the 128MB video card and it has been overclocked to 1.67GHz (7447b in this A1095, it's a late production model!) i have heard the DLSD performs better with RAM, that's about it. also i've just been looking for a cheap one for YEARS now! this was $40 on eBay and i talked to him about what it was. by a stroke of luck it was indeed an A1138. he said it worked the last time he went to turn it on but had misplaced the charger, so i'm very sure it's still good. any issues with these laptops that i should be aware about? i know the late G5s had some problems; i used to have an isight 17" G5 and that had a chipset failure, and i still have my 2.3DC G5 with the checkstop LED (CPU/motherboard/chipset locked up or broken).
 
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Melbourne Park

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Yes, that's possible. You'll need two partitions on the Quicksilver's new drive - one to restore the Leopard install DVD image to (using e.g. Disk Utility) and another to install Leopard on. If you can hook up the drive to your Mac Pro using a FireWire or USB enclosure, I'd do the partitioning and restoring there. The drive needs to have an APM (Apple Partition Map) scheme for the Quicksilver to be able to boot from it.

The problem with doing it, is that it seems to me, the install file has to be opened first, in order for the Quicksilver to see that there is file that can boot the machine (and then install the software).

I even tried to image the whole disk image using Carbon Copy Cloner onto the internal partition of one of the drives - and I tried CCC format that drive partition at the same time - but the machine will not boot from that partition. So the computer doesn't recognise the copied disk as being a native disk ... the thing needs to be opened into a visible DVD disk, and then, it instructs one to restart the computer - and the computer doesn't recognise the file as being a boot file.

I'm thinking the only way i can do it is to buy an IDE disk drive, that can read a double layer DVD. My double mirror door certainly cannot read the double layer I created.

Annoying too, is that I have a purplish cardboard CD retail box from Apple, for Leopard. It has a little booklet in it, explaining 10.5. But the install disk is not there ...

I also tried to install the smaller version of 10.5 from MacintoshGarden - burned onto a single sided DVD. The Quicksilver booted from the reduced size DVD disk - but it would not install the system. It went through the steps, but would come up with a fail, before formatting the the partitioned drive I chose to install on.

The only choice I can now think of, is to buy a used 10.5 ... there is one available but its in another city and will take days to get here ... Its not cheap either, plus I'll need to pay for a courier ...
 
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alectrona6400

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Mar 1, 2019
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The Quicksilver booted from the reduced size DVD disk - but it would not install the system. It went through the steps, but would come up with a fail, before formatting the the partitioned drive I chose to install on.
with the single layer disc, make sure the base system is the ONLY one selected. otherwise it will try to get the other files and then it will fail.
 

Amethyst1

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Oct 28, 2015
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The problem with doing it, is that it seems to me, the install file has to be opened first, in order for the Quicksilver to see that there is file that can boot the machine (and then install the software)
If you double-click the Leopard dmg, does a volume named Mac OS X Install DVD appear on the desktop? If so, I’d try restoring that volume to a partition and booting from it.
 
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alectrona6400

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usually what i do is run osinstall.mpkg on another mac with the install image mounted and i connect the target mac with a firewire cable and put the target mac into target disk mode. i run osinstall on the mac with the image and i select the drive that is in the other mac and i install it to there.

did this many times. useful for when "it just won't come up"
 
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