What have you done with a PowerPC today?

[Jack Neill]

Already dropped versions my hardware cannot handle - 10.0 to 10.3 . My macbook A1342 can run from SnowLeo up to High Sierra. Quad can use only 2 (4 if we count servers), so line is from 10.4PPC up to Catalina (may be I'll try to look what OpenCore can do with A1342) .

I got 2 512 SSD in a Raid 0 in mine (A1342) and I found 10.13 really runs the best. Mojave was ok but a tad slow with the C2D.

 

[Amethyst1]

My macbook A1342 can run from SnowLeo up to High Sierra.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Leo also booted on it with a little help. Also (patched) Mojave and later are possible.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

@Jack Neill​

BTW, how long it livees on battery? Mine can andle youtube 720p for around 1,5 hours. Didn't changed it after purcchase, number of charge cycles is not high (around 1 hundred AFAIK).

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Leo also booted on it with a little help.

I've tried straight start of installer - no luck, hangs right after loading mkext.cache (all my systems configured with verbose boot). M.b it is possible to boot with OpenCore but I don't know about hardware compatibility.

 

[Jack Neill]

@Jack Neill​

BTW, how long it livees on battery? Mine can andle youtube 720p for around 1,5 hours. Didn't changed it after purcchase, number of charge cycles is not high (aroun 1 hundred AFAIK).

I replaced the battery about a year ago. I get 1-2 hours most of the time.

 

[Amethyst1]

I've tried straight start of installer - no luck, hangs right after loading mkext.cache (all my systems configured with verbose boot).

What version of the installer? An installed copy of 10.5.8 should boot (it does on my 2010 MBA) but the GeForce kexts need to be deleted so there will be no graphics acceleration. It’s more of a curiosity.
I tried 10.4.11 on the 2010 MBA too (of course) but it hung right at the beginning of the boot process.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

An installed copy of 10.5.8

I used installer, not copy. 10.5.4, Retail.
BTW, can it be that Tiger's disk Utility can't restore 10.7 & other versions? Got error (-22 code), with 10.7.

 

[Amethyst1]

BTW, can it be that Tiger's disk Utility can't restore 10.7 & other versions?

I’ve never tried it tbh. Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! might be able to.

BTW, 10.8 and later versions can’t simply be restored to a partition to make a bootable installer in the way that 10.7 and earlier versions can (unless the images you downloaded have been specifically “prepared” for this - see here on how to do this for 10.8). The createinstallmedia command buried within the installer application is the easiest way to create a bootable installer volume for these newer versions. This command may well require a newer version of OS X (on an Intel Mac) though.

And which version of Tiger for Intel are you using, out of interest?

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

createinstallmedia

S..it!!! I didn't new that. OK m.b. it will require macbook to do the job. About TigerIntel - I'm not using any version, no compatible hardware. Just want it, if I'll acquire something which can run it .

 

[Amethyst1]

About TigerIntel - I'm not using any version, no compatible hardware.

The retail Tiger Server 10.4.7 release (build 8K1079) uniquely installs on both PowerPC and early Intel Macs. So you can run that on your Quad.

(Link is down ATM due to MacGarden’s situation.)

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

Well, it is already installed & updated to .4.11. But I'm not using it often. BTW, is it possible to configure server Mac Os to desktop? TigerServer has kexts for my SAS card.

 

[Amethyst1]

BTW, is it possible to configure server Mac Os to desktop?

It’s the same base OS, so if you don’t enable any of Server’s features/services it should behave just like a client version. If you also want it to identify itself as a client version, e.g. in About This Mac (in case some apps don't work on the Server version for licensing reasons or something), delete /System/Library/CoreServices/ServerVersion.plist

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

Anybody here uses it in such way?

 

[Amethyst1]

TigerServer has kexts for my SAS card.

Have you tried copying these to a Tiger client's /System/Library/Extensions folder?

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

Yees, they just can't load at startup. AppleFusionMPT.kext, if memory serves me well. It seems like dependency and versions problem, I suppose.

 

[Amethyst1]

Yees, they just can't load at startup. AppleFusionMPT.kext, if memory serves me well. It seems like dependency and versions problem, I suppose.

Tried copying over all kexts and mach_kernel as well? (Might be a recipe for disaster LOL)

 

[Jack Neill]

Got the Quickie humming. 733 G4, 768 ram, GeForce4,120 SSD. 10.4.11 and 9.2.1

 

[Doq]

I reimaged the Six Dollar eMac after it kept refusing to boot to the existing install, and then got Garden iTunes dropped on to it for my express purpose of using it as a music centre with its speakers far better than any of my PowerBooks. Along with it came Classilla for web browsing purposes, DAVE to access the remote music library, and my favourite standalone music players-- MACAST and SoundJam MP.

The CRT looks mad smooth too while doing it. 89 Hz 1024x768 looks smoother than any monitor I have in the lab.

That said, the issue with the booting is making me think that the Six Dollar eMac isn't actually an OS 9 native eMac. Some ATI Graphics 1.0 GHz models don't officially support native OS 9 boot, which may explain why I can't actually boot an OS 9 CD.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

Tried copying over all kexts and mach_kernel as well? (Might be a recipe for disaster LOL)

This really looks like a way to seek irrepairable troubles, up to full reinstall .

 

[Amethyst1]

This really looks like a way to seek irrepairable troubles, up to full reinstall .

Well, back up the originals before

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

As for now - created multi-boot installer (APM scheme), works with G5Quad (Tiger, Leopard, ASD, iPartition). macbook sees TigerIntel, iPartition (!) & bunch of intel-only systems (checked some of them, SnowLeo, Sierra, and pair of others) - bootable at least to main menu. Not all installable right from menu - some requires date\time change. Some just missing from boot list. BTW, it can be that I get confused with image size & required partition size, so got few errors during recovery from image to drive. So I think may be I have to rebuild all this... The trouble is that once partition table made in Disk Utility - it can't be reconstructed. M.b. there is some way to create partitions one by one?

 

[Amethyst1]

The CRT looks mad smooth too while doing it. 89 Hz 1024x768 looks smoother than any monitor I have in the lab.

You should see it do 640×480 at 138 Hz!

 

[Doq]

You should see it do 640×480 at 138 Hz!

I have. Unreal Tournament on it is, well, unreal.

 

[ervus]

One nice thing about the sever version is it allows more file/network shares. I think the limit is 5 (or 10?) otherwise, and I've run in to the limit a few times trying to sync files and do backups across several macs.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

I leaft the idea to use my home systems as servers long ago . For such purposes I've build cheap server-grade box with OpenMediaVault installed. Now all files I need - transferred to it.

Do somebody here knows which powermacs can boot from GPT? I know that G5 can (at least PCI-Ex based ). I'm thinking about rebuild of my installer-drive with GPT, because APM is limited in partition number. But the idea is to be able to boot from most wide number of mac models .