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Amethyst1

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Replacing the original HD with one of these doesn't make the system all that noticeably faster, but it does make it run much more smoothly.
I think these SD-to-IDE adapters (which are actually an SD-to-CF adapter and a CF-to-IDE adapter glued together) are limited to about 25 MB/s throughput, but you're still benefitting from low access times.
 
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I think these SD-to-IDE adapters (which are actually an SD-to-CF adapter and a CF-to-IDE adapter glued together) are limited to about 25 MB/s throughput, but you're still benefitting from low access times.

If one is running these on anything earlier than 2000 with Mac products, this should be more than adequate, as 2000 marked when Apple’s products moved to the ATA-4 IDE standard, with peak bandwidths reaching 25MB/s (and UDMA/33, or 33MB/s, on the late ATA-4 products, such as the clamshell Rev. C iBook).
 
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Amethyst1

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If one is running these on anything earlier than 2000 with Mac products, this should be more than adequate […]
The blog post says genuine Sintech adapters have a parallel Flash interface, so I wonder if they’re potentially faster than the tested unit with a serial one.
 
The blog post says genuine Sintech adapters have a parallel Flash interface, so I wonder if they’re potentially faster than the tested unit with a serial one.

I honestly can’t say. There was some kind of bottleneck with the blog test PC’s setup, and I couldn’t figure out why that might have been. On the one hand, it reported as running on the ATA-7 standard with UDMA 5 support, yet was hobbled by the 28-bit LBA/128GiB ceiling of pre-ATA-6 buses. The logic board appeared to be from ATA-7 era, so with that dog's breakfast, I’m wondering whether the bottleneck wasn’t with the adapter itself (or its firmware).
 
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wicknix

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Jun 4, 2017
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Been playing around with my new G5 and thought to myself.... some stock icons kinda suck. So i started scouring the web for some better looking ones, then converted them with fasticns and replaced the "stock.icns" usually found in /Appname.app/Contents/Resources. This way the icons don't change to their old icon once an app is launched (which happens sometimes when you use the preview copy/paste method). At any rate, i'm not done, but here are some with a shiny "new" look.
New icons for sorbet app store, interwebppc, arcticfoxppc, tenfourfox, filezilla, utorrent, limechat, tenfivetube, pianoppc, vlc, photoshop, terminal and libreoffice.

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Cheers
 

za9ra22

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I think these SD-to-IDE adapters (which are actually an SD-to-CF adapter and a CF-to-IDE adapter glued together) are limited to about 25 MB/s throughput, but you're still benefitting from low access times.

It does seem like a relatively performance-limited solution, though when considering my 333MHz Lombard(s), a 233 PDQ or even 117 PB1400cs, I think it's probably not much of a concern (meaning, to me, that is). It is pleasing, however, to be able to replace an original HD in each of these with something that costs about $20 apiece including a 32Gb card, where the storage can be switched out readily as needed. And having trialed it in a 400MHz Lombard, I know that at least it will go that far as a solution.

I think it's invariably true that for a laptop much newer than that, I'll need to look at a better solution, so it's a rather narrow window of Macs for which it may be a good answer.
 

Amethyst1

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I think it's invariably true that for a laptop much newer than that, I'll need to look at a better solution [...]
An mSATA (or M.2) SSD in an mSATA[M.2]-to-IDE adapter is a better solution. :)
 
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whiskersld

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Mar 3, 2020
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Discovered the 6GB HDD died in my Powermac g3 (Affectionately named gilfy by one of my friends) currenty looking at OWC to get one of their SSD's because I don't want to fiddle w/ ide adaptors. Its a 1st rev and apparently looking for working adapters for that board is a hot freaking mess. Also accidently set my iMac g3 on fire. Still works! Made a couple of insta photos after the incident
 
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Amethyst1

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Oct 28, 2015
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Discovered the 6GB HDD died in my Powermac g3 (Affectionately named gilfy by one of my friends) currenty looking at OWC to get one of their SSD's because I don't want to fiddle w/ ide adaptors. Its a 1st rev and apparently looking for working adapters for that board is a hot freaking mess.
Are native IDE/PATA SSDs known to work fine in the 1st rev then?
 

Amethyst1

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I honestly can’t say. There was some kind of bottleneck with the blog test PC’s setup, and I couldn’t figure out why that might have been. On the one hand, it reported as running on the ATA-7 standard with UDMA 5 support, yet was hobbled by the 28-bit LBA/128GiB ceiling of pre-ATA-6 buses. The logic board appeared to be from ATA-7 era, so with that dog's breakfast, I’m wondering whether the bottleneck wasn’t with the adapter itself (or its firmware).
I have an SD-to-CF adapter with a ≈120GiB card in an iPod mini. I might crack it open and give this contraption a try on a CF-to-IDE adapter. I have a couple of systems that use 1.8" or 2.5" PATA HDDs so am looking into cheap-yet-usable solid state storage upgrade possibilities knowing that the mSATA-to-IDE route is best but red PCB adapters ain't cheap.
 
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thenebular

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Apr 9, 2020
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Well yesterday, (as I'm at work today), I was putting my cube motherboard back in the frame to begin my attempts at hacking OF to activate the DAC and dump the BootROM.
 

whiskersld

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Are native IDE/PATA SSDs known to work fine in the 1st rev then?
According to people on the fourms, like half the market is flooded with these knock offs that dont function well w. old ide controllers. the ssds devices r using compatable boards that function as well as they can
 

sasho648

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Feb 19, 2020
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Seems on my way to successufully compile cmake with macports - although its a little slow (I have the Dual PowerPC G5 2GHz - ordered a Quad just like yesterday from ebay - 2.5 hopefully it'll be faster with that one - and more quiet too - since the one I have is constantly ramped up) - but yeah gcc7 compiled after few reboots (either a kernel crash or I shutdown the mac because of my father being a lil crying baby).

Ultimately I would want to compile latest llvm and recompile a PPC game with my own C compiler.

Basically game dev stuff. Although it'll be better if I can do the compiling on my M1 machines (but currently it doesn't hurt spinning my PPC mac as well in the meantime).

I just saw there is an option to change the cpu to performance in the Energy Saver - does that do anything? - it doesn't seem to.

And yes I run OS X 10.5 because it has the gpu drivers, OS X framework and so can run Mac PPC games.

I would probably also try to compile some modern web browser (like epiphany) see how that goes.
 

galgot

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Today I used a WallStreet to connect via Timbuktu to two System 7.6.1 running each on their own emulator on my Raspberry-Pi, that is BasiliskII and SheepShaver.
Recently upgraded the Rpi system (after completely borking it while messing with Netatalk...), and now I'm happy to have both emulators working, with the ethernet driver working for both... cool.

Janes-Henderson-120522-1.jpg

And both appear and are mountable with the Chooser :

Janes-Henderson-120522-3.jpg
 
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Eightbitgamer757

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Finally found a DVI to VGA adapter to use my G5 on my main monitor, so I decided to give Sorbet Leapord a try, it runs quite nicely on this machine, in fact this is being posted from it. Hopefully this gives me more of a reason to use it other than just as a leg rest under my desk :p
 

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originaldotexe

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Finally found a DVI to VGA adapter to use my G5 on my main monitor, so I decided to give Sorbet Leapord a try, it runs quite nicely on this machine, in fact this is being posted from it. Hopefully this gives me more of a reason to use it other than just as a leg rest under my desk :p
fyi there is a version of minecraft 1.8.9 on macintosh garden, and 1.11.2 is being released for leopard soon too. :D
 

MarkC426

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May 14, 2008
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Installed my original Neverwinter Nights game on recently revived (256gb SSD) G4 PowerBook......:p
I don't think I ever played it since bought about 2003.

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Is there a way to copy the CD to disk, all that shows in Finder is 'NWN Installer' on the CD.
The game requires it inserted to play.....🤔
 
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