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Who saw the first Star Wars in movie theatre in 1977? I did - twice. I was not old enough to go (min age 12 in my country, I was 8) so I went with my dad. And I thought it was so great I made him go with me a second time too the next week! ;) He was like 33 back then and liked movies so I guess it was not so bad for him either. :cool:
Houston TX. I would have been 6. This was back in the days where you could (mostly) get away with watching a movie more than once by simply staying in the theater. Now they throw you out because you only paid to watch once.

We saw the entire thing and were watching the beginning again when my sister (who was four then) freaked out about Darth Vader and started crying. So, we had to leave.

But yes, I saw it in the theater when it was first released.
 
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If you heard my sister crying, I'm sorry for that. ;)

Hahahahaha… nice-not-nice-but-nice-to-share-as-a-memory.

I can only hazard to guess where we were in town, but I know there are many other kids (including “big kids” — i.e., anyone over the age of 6 or 7 from my vantage) there, too. At age 4, I don’t think I’d have noticed your sister or another kid crying, especially since by that summer, I was eldest of three; screaming and crying from toddlers and newborns was the sonic wallpaper in my everyday life.

Based on my cousins and uncle being there (it was definitely during a visit to my grandmum’s house on the west side), we were probably at a cinema nearish to Memorial City mall or maybe Spring Branch. If not, then we went somewhere nearby Wilcrest or Westheimer, or else (the least likely possibility, given the distance) somewhere around the Galleria.

Houston TX. I would have been 6. This was back in the days where you could (mostly) get away with watching a movie more than once by simply staying in the theater. Now they throw you out because you only paid to watch once.

I think I may have, a total of once in my lifetime, slipped into a second film without paying. If so, this would have been around a window of time between ages 16 and 18. And if I had, then I’m completely unable to remember what movie (or movies) that/those were.
 
Hahahahaha… nice-not-nice-but-nice-to-share-as-a-memory.

I can only hazard to guess where we were in town, but I know there are many other kids (including “big kids” — i.e., anyone over the age of 6 or 7 from my vantage) there, too. At age 4, I don’t think I’d have noticed your sister or another kid crying, especially since by that summer, I was eldest of three; screaming and crying from toddlers and newborns was the sonic wallpaper in my everyday life.

Based on my cousins and uncle being there (it was definitely during a visit to my grandmum’s house on the west side), we were probably at a cinema nearish to Memorial City mall or maybe Spring Branch. If not, then we went somewhere nearby Wilcrest or Westheimer, or else (the least likely possibility, given the distance) somewhere around the Galleria.



I think I may have, a total of once in my lifetime, slipped into a second film without paying. If so, this would have been around a window of time between ages 16 and 18. And if I had, then I’m completely unable to remember what movie (or movies) that/those were.
We most likely would have seen it at the Galleria. Or at least I can recall the Galleria being the site I saw a lot of movies at (Superman being one of those).
 
We most likely would have seen it at the Galleria. Or at least I can recall the Galleria being the site I saw a lot of movies at (Superman being one of those).

I feel like many of the same group of extended family also went to see Superman the following summer, probably at the same cinema complex, as in my mind it was the third film I remember seeing in cinema. (It’s possible we saw The Muppet Movie in cinema at some point, but most of my memory of that was broadcast and cable TV re-runs, and once at a public showing in a restaurant co-op in Minneapolis, around 2000 or so).

The fourth, contrary to what one might expect for a kid in North America around that time, wasn’t anything from 1979 (a year when we moved cities), 1980 (the heat wave, and a summer we travelled to visit extended family in Colorado, to escape that heat), or 1981 (the summer my dad set up cable TV). It was E.T.: The Extraterrestrial, in 1982 — which, I think, I saw thrice in cinemas that year. [Curiously, I haven’t watched the film more than maybe once in all the many decades since.] It’s also possible we saw Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan that summer, as well, but I’m a bit fuzzy on that, since that was a tumultuous, unsettling summer in my family. (I absolutely did see Star Trek III in 1984, in cinema, though.)
 
Houston TX. I would have been 6. This was back in the days where you could (mostly) get away with watching a movie more than once by simply staying in the theater. Now they throw you out because you only paid to watch once.
wow they do?
the last time i was in a a movie theatre was......before I used an early intel MacBook Pro in late 2012 to see Skyfall.
 
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wow they do?
the last time i was in a a movie theatre as before I used an early intel MacBook Pro in late 2012 to see Skyfall.

Here’s one for the memories:

The last time I was in a cinema (for a film I really enjoyed… Boots Riley’s Sorry to Bother You), I brought home bedbugs for the only time in my life (same venue I where saw Cloud Atlas and Episode VII: The Force Awakens). Ever since, idea of paying $20 or even more for admission, at any venue, no matter how well interstitial cleaning by staff goes between screenings, I’ve been extremely reluctant to watch another film at a closed venue.


At this point, I think the only way anyone could get me to return to a cinema is if some local film society stitched together the (truly cinematic) series, Sense8, into all-day marathons — one season, each weekend, across two weekends, with each unified season shown only during that one weekend (with an intermission and maybe a longer one for meal break) — I’d clear everything in my life to be there.
 
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the last time i was in a a movie theatre as before I used an early intel MacBook Pro in late 2012 to see Skyfall.
I wouldn't try it now. I wouldn't have tried it in the 1990s either. I can remember them starting to crack down in the mid-80s. And when I say 'they', I mean the chains. Some of those chains are gone now though. But, yeah it's pretty much frowned on.

If you've been getting away with it then I think you've been fortunate. I mean they aren't physically escorting you out (or back to the ticket counter) but if you haven't been gently reminded that the movie is over or simply asked to leave before the next showing then that's surprising to me.

What also could happen is that since they didn't sell you a seat for the next showing, they could ask to see your ticket if that next showing is packed. The person with the ticket for that showing is going to get your seat and you're going to have to explain why you're sitting in a seat for a showing you didn't pay for.
 
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I wouldn't try it now. I wouldn't have tried it in the 1990s either. I can remember them starting to crack down in the mid-80s. And when I say 'they', I mean the chains. Some of those chains are gone now though. But, yeah it's pretty much frowned on.

From a land planning perspective, I understand the why of major cinema chains going Wal-Mart-sized from the late ’80s into the aughts (and specifically, where many of those were sited) created the 16, 21, 24, and even 30-screen behemoths, as most of these were built on greenfield lands (typically, former farming or ranching lands, and virtually always adjacent to a major arterial — all of it far from where anyone lived or went to school and nearly always requiring a car to reach). So in a mess of ways, I’m glad many of them eventually folded or merged, closing low-performing locations, especially after the Great Recession.

Unfortunately, it’s not unusual to find long-abandoned multiplexes in every major city which, still, have not been repurposed for other critical uses (including housing) or integrated communities at a scale not unlike walking through a neighbourhood in Japan.

What also could happen is that since they didn't sell you a seat for the next showing, they could ask to see your ticket if that next showing is packed. The person with the ticket for that showing is going to get your seat and you're going to have to explain why you're sitting in a seat for a showing you didn't pay for.

It used to be that admissions tickets were all the same and didn’t denote the film and time/date being viewed. I feel like that really began to change around the time of reserving and buying tickets online during the first dotcom age (e.g., “I know Mr. Fandango”). I have memory of going to opening at midnight for Episode I: The Phantom Menace at the Har-Mar in St. Paul, MN. The tickets we bought in advance (at the box office, but still a couple of days early) were printed with the showing, screen, and time. I’m sure event-printed cinema tickets go back much further.
 
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From a land planning perspective, I understand the why of major cinema chains going Wal-Mart-sized from the late ’80s into the aughts (and specifically, where many of those were sited) created the 16, 21, 24, and even 30-screen behemoths, as most of these were built on greenfield lands (typically, former farming or ranching lands, and virtually always adjacent to a major arterial — all of it far from where anyone lived or went to school and nearly always requiring a car to reach). So in a mess of ways, I’m glad many of them eventually folded or merged, closing low-performing locations, especially after the Great Recession.

Unfortunately, it’s not unusual to find long-abandoned multiplexes in every major city which, still, have not been repurposed for other critical uses (including housing) or integrated communities at a scale not unlike walking through a neighbourhood in Japan.
One of the major chains I recall best was General Cinema. I'm not sure GC made it in to the megaplex era before it folded though. AMC is still around, but it'd be hard to find any of the old AMC theaters that were simply a few screens. Most of the larger theaters of the 1980s have long since been taken over by specialty theaters or budget theaters. Of course, Covid killed a lot of these.

I think most places have their own regionals. For my area, that's Harkins. When we first moved here they were fairly small but pretty much the only game in town. They have megaplexes everywhere now and AMC doesn't really compete. Which is interesting because AMC is a major national chain while Harkins is regional.

It used to be that admissions tickets were all the same and didn’t denote the film and time/date being viewed. I feel like that really began to change around the time of reserving and buying tickets online during the first dotcom age (e.g., “I know Mr. Fandango”). I have memory of going to opening at midnight for Episode I: The Phantom Menace at the Har Mar in St. Paul, MN. The tickets we bought in advance (at the box office, but still a couple of days early) were printed with the showing, screen, and time. I’m sure event-printed cinema tickets go back much further.
Banning, California used to have the Fox theater up until a few years ago I think. By the time we were living in the area it was a privately owned business and remained so until it ultimately closed. Your ticket was the standard raffle ticket torn off a roll, then torn in half when entering the theater itself. The Fox was a last resort usually, most of our theater watching was either in San Bernardino or Redlands. Tickets at those theaters (chains) were printed since at least the early 90s.

I did see Dick Tracy at midnight at the Fox. They managed to be one of the 'premier' theaters for that and your Dick Tracy t-shirt was your 'ticket'.

Around 1990 though is when we started going over more towards Moreno Valley and their theater chains. Moreno Valley Mall at the time had a megaplex close by. Don't know if it's still there or what if anything has changed. MV also had a budget theater where I first saw Army of Darkness. As a budget theater it had a lot of screens so was very popular.

There's some budget theater with several screens now in Beaumont, which I guess replaces the closing of the Fox (Beaumont being right next to Banning). Haven't been back there since November 2019 though and I wasn't visiting at the time.
 
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Solo was good, as an early intel Mac with the switches to start the M-Falcon
I don think I saw that since I don't remember anything.
BUT
who was Qi'ra mentor at the ending......someone in Phantom?
 
Updates:

I found a lightly-used actual Apple OEM battery from a reputable Apple parts store, guaranteeing “Grade A”, or 90–100 per cent of original capacity. The price was maybe $10 or 15 more than buying a “““new””” third-party, B- or C-grade battery, but given it’s pulled from an original MBP, this should last quite a while longer. That will probably take a week to ship here, and I’m OK with that. (I won’t begin to think about SSD storage options before I can get the system running at the actual speed and not the downclocked, 1.0GHz silliness.)

I’ve re-installed Mojave. Twice.

The first re-install, on an HFS+ partition, followed after the firmware/nvram method to disable the dGPU didn’t seem to take, with reboots defaulting the head display to the Radeon. Eventually, the dosdude1 dGPU disabling utility got the system to boot with the iGPU.

After first re-install, the Trackpad prefPane persisted with an inability to find the system trackpad. But then mysteriously, following a reboot, I watched the pane, open from previous session, switch to the system actually recognizing the MBP’s trackpad and providing the usual options for scrolling and multitouch.

Problem solved… or so I thought.

I learnt I couldn’t get software updates the routine manner in Mojave unless the boot partition is APFS. Even after downloading the last Security Update, it wouldn’t install (with the generic warning that the update was not meant for my system).

Then, the system ground to a near-halt and PID 0 went out of control. This occurred after I re-installed the original, dead battery, just after trying one more method to get the system to definitively determine whether the original battery was truly and well dead (yah, it’s quite dead). So a second re-install proceeded, because I grew impatient.

For second re-install, I set up an APFS partition, despite being on a spinner. Through Software Update, I ran the security update and other updates for the system before converting the APFS partition to HFS+.

To do that, I finally found a use for the APFS-to-HFS+ conversion utility which Paragon Software had available for a short while after High Sierra and Mojave were current. I put the A1286 into target mode and ran the conversion overnight from my late 2011 13-inch MBP. It worked as promised. :)

Now the system is running a patched Mojave on an HFS+ partition with an added curiosity of lacking the dosdude1 recovery partition for HFS+ installations.

The dreaded trackpad prefPane issue has also returned. Nothing I’ve managed to do so far had avoided the problem of the system thinking there’s no trackpad in use and expecting to find one via Bluetooth. I’m baffled.

So that’s that. I’m putting things away until the battery replacement gets here. After I put in an SSD, I’ll use the other Paragon conversion tool to revert the HFS+ partition to APFS before cloning it to the SSD.



EDIT to add: Maybe I should dial up to my AOL and surf the world wide web for the internet sometime.

A discussion on the Apple community board points to this being related to the battery being removed, which comports with my situation (and why it appeared during the short moment when I put back in the otherwise-dead battery the other night). Less clear is why a system management controller-level variable/flag would have any bearing on the USB 1.1 (I think) bus on which the multitouch trackpad is connected.

CURSED DAUGHTER OF UPDATE, on the cheap, early 2011 i7 2.0 anti-glare A1286!
(an update in six parts)



Well… things kind of escalated quickly.



FIRST, an unexpected thing happened.

Last weekend, another local seller who hadn’t replied to my inquiry a fortnight ago about the posting for of their dead, anti-glare, early 2011 2.0 i7 A1286 — priced even lower than the one I did buy a fortnight ago — suddenly pinged back a week later and was all, “Sure, it’s yours if you want it.” So, well, at the equivalent of $15 in freedom dollars ($20 in maple money), I picked up a second, identical-spec laptop built two months earlier. (No hard drive or MagSafe adapter, but try buying any single working component inside for less than that, with shipping; at the very least, having this as a parts donor will be good.)

Unlike the first, which I have gotten up and running, this second one faces deeper issues.

Namely, when it POSTs (if it posts… chiming very quietly), it either reaches a dark screen, a off-white screen, or an off-white screen with vertical line distortion from the all-but dead Radeon GPU.

As with the first A1286, the OEM battery in there is dead dead dead. Unlike the first A1286, I cannot boot into a live USB of Arch Linux, because the EFI boot options screen won’t appear. (Yes, I even disconnected the HDD cable at the board, as this is known to sometimes present an all-white screen problem beyond anything relating to a model’s dying/dead GPU.)

So for now, that’s a deeper project I’ll keep around for later, but I’m in no rush to futz with it.

Cosmetically, it has one, blunt-force dent on the front, toward the right (in front of the HDD bay), which I may be able to finesse back out eventually. It was also a lot more dusty inside than the other A1286, suggesting the combination of Apple’s poor thermal management design, accelerated by someone who didn’t take care of their stuff (clogged fin stacks, caked fans, and a sheen of fine dust all over the board) is what hastened the complete failure of the dGPU, preventing other workarounds without, probably, a complete replacement of the Radeon to get it to POST and boot (which would, at least, let it plod along in that slow-death way).



SECOND, the working, used OEM battery arrived. :D

The A-grade OEM battery from the aforementioned, reputable seller (’sup, Beetstech) arrived late last week.

I put it in last night, but it wasn’t until this evening before I could have a better look at its age and health, given what I paid for (i.e., more than what I paid for the entire MBP, but maybe a difference of about $20 — well less of what Apple once charged when they still stocked them at the Apple Store).

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Given the date of manufacture, my guess is the battery came from a mid-2012 donor. Between the cycle count, the hardware mod I completed successfully, and setting Charge Limiter to 80 per cent (same as my late 2011 A1278), this battery ought to, hopefully, last for the remainder of my ever using this laptop. I now know an OEM battery serial beginning with D8 is from Simplo.



THIRD, I’m still having trouble with the dosdude1-patched Mojave on this system and the iSight camera not working. Help with troubleshooting is welcomed. :)

The green iSight light comes on, but camera preview window remains blank/black. On the testing HDD this laptop is using, there is also an install of Lion; I confirmed the camera works fine on 10.7.5, so this is a specific software thing related to this MacBookPro8,2’s patching. I’m at a loss, and feedback or pointers to other solutions on the forums or elsewhere is definitely welcomed here.

I don’t think it’s security denying access, given this message on Console upon launch of Photo Booth (which, by default, has audio-video access, out-of-box on a fresh install):

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iSight camera also doesn’t work in QuickTime, FaceTime, or custom avatar setup for Users & Groups. When starting a video record in QuickTime, a series of the same error repeats about 20 times (probably hardware/system re-attempts before giving up):

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[My understanding is the iSight Patch relates to fixes for the MBP5,2 only and wouldn’t address the issue here on the MBP8,2.]

I may try pulling out my iSight FireWire camera this week (it’s buried in a box) to verify whether this issue carries over to other camera devices outside the internal bus.

As it is, my patches include:

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(I parse “version 0” as a patch which is not currently being used, but someone please correct me if that’s wrong.)


FOURTH, I think I figured out why the 8GB Corsair stick keeps showing up as 4GB.

Of all the sticks I’ve tested in the A1286, it’s the only DDR3 module I have which is 1066MHz; the rest have all been 1333MHz. Even when it’s the only stick, either bay, it still shows as 4GB in the A1286 (but 8GB in my late 2011 A1278); even the Corsair model number displayed by Memtest86 shows one change of digit (an 8, denoting 8GB, turns into a 4 mysteriously). What this tells me is a 16GB setup will require two, 1333MHz or greater DDR3 sticks.



FIFTH, there are multiple workarounds posted working around the Radeon dGPU issue. All but one involve bodge wires and/or highly skilled, delicate soldering; the other is understood as a stop-gap.

For now, I took the risk of the method presented by RealMacMods, from the 2018 Wayback Machine capture, on their steps for disabling power and logic to the dGPU. Yes, it has problems (like the imperative to never zap NVRAM/PRAM, something I never really do anyway on Intel Macs).

[Also, it calls for downloading Arch Linux, but sometime after 2021, Arch’s boot procedure changed, making it impossible for the live system to boot with the current trio of monthly updates (whether with or without the nomodeset flag appended in GRUB). Once I could find an older, 2021 build, the RealMacMods steps proceeded without hassle.]

Of the three known, somewhat invasive workarounds — the SPI-ROM flashing; the gMux IC wire re-routing; and the RealMacMods removal of one resistor, R8911, whose removal cuts power to the dGPU (following the setting and locking of the same basic EFI variables in the firmware workaround, but modifying the EFI file system commands via the Arch Linux live boot), I chose the latter because I’m terrible.

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My soldering skills, on a 1 to 10 — dosdude1 being an 11, if we’re being 💯 — are maybe a 3.5 when I’m in practice (which I am decidedly not). Removing a resistor this small is at the upper reach of my solder skills (the R8911 resistor is maybe one-fourth the size of a just-hatched monarch caterpillar (a monarch caterpillar egg, at about 1mm wide, can rest on the head of a sewing pin, so the R8911 resistor would have no trouble falling through the head).

I almost made a mistake (when a blob of solder fell and melted across several, adjacent SMD pieces), but I’d prepared for that possibility with flux, solder, and copper wick (all invaluable).

Knowing it would either work or fail catastrophically, I put the removed, minuscule, but probably now-damaged resistor into a tiny zip-shut baggie, taping that to the laptop battery as a reminder for later, then powered it on.

And well, this is what I’m now seeing:

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I think I’ll be good with this.



SIXTH and last, once I’m able to solve the iSight camera issue (I’d like to solve this within the week, since I’ve video meetings coming up soon after), I may try out the viability of migrating both SSDs from my late 2011 13-inch A1278 MBP to the A1286, to determine whether both my 10.6.8 build with roots dating back to 5 September 2009 (on one SSD), and the dosdude1-patched 10.14.6 for the MBP8,1 A1278 (on the other SSD) can both boot properly in a mildly different hardware setting from the same generation.



Seriously, though: if anyone might have a clear grasp why iSight is not working, I’m all ears.

Pics of the final laptop doing ordinary laptop things, with the replaced clutch cover and capacities within upgraded, are still to come.

iSight notwithstanding, I think I’m beginning to like this infernal thing. :)





EDIT to add: It’s a long weekend and I’m quite awake, so heck it. I pulled the parts box from the basement to find and connect both the iSight FireWire camera and a basic, borescope-style USB camera (which I use for things like board close-ups).

The system did recognize the iSight FW camera and the live image appeared in both QuickTime and PhotoBooth. The USB borescope camera was not recognized (though its bus-powered LED ring lighting worked fine). (That camera works on the A1278.) Even with iSight FW working, I could not get the system to, say, use the iSight FW on Photo Booth whilst trying to use the built-in iSight in QuickTime.

So I’m stumped: cameras on USB aren’t happy, nor are they happening.
 
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@B S Magnet for my 2011s, I use a High Sierra installer, boot to selection, cmd-s and click on the installer. Gets right into single user mode, and I run the nvram commands from there. As far as I'm aware, there's no advantage to the Arch Linux way. But I may be wrong there!
 
@B S Magnet for my 2011s, I use a High Sierra installer, boot to selection, cmd-s and click on the installer. Gets right into single user mode, and I run the nvram commands from there. As far as I'm aware, there's no advantage to the Arch Linux way. But I may be wrong there!

My understanding is by using the Arch Linux (or other live CD/USB Linux) method, one can, feasibly, lock specific efivars settings with the chattr +i flag, so that not even root on a live USB/CD boot can alter or delete those efivars settings (unless one first runs an chattr -i to unlock).

To be sure, they also recommend using the firmware password utility in Recovery mode to set a password lock for the the board to prevent changes to nvram settings.

I haven’t yet done that last step, and I’m on the fence on whether I might. I tend to know which nvram settings I use most often (like verbose mode) and don‘t really re-visit them after I’ve set up a system.
 
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My understanding is by using the Arch Linux (or other live CD/USB Linux) method, one can, feasibly, lock specific efivars settings with the chattr +i flag, so that not even root on a live USB/CD boot can alter or delete those efivars settings (unless one first runs an chattr -i to unlock).

To be sure, they also recommend using the firmware password utility in Recovery mode to set a password lock for the the board to prevent changes to nvram settings.

I haven’t yet done that last step, and I’m on the fence on whether I might. I tend to know which nvram settings I use most often (like verbose mode) and don‘t really re-visit them after I’ve set up a system.
Ok, thanks for the info, I plainly haven't done enough reading on that. Will probably try it at some point, altjough my remaining 2011 is working well, so I'll leave it alone!
:D
 
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($20 in maple money)

last century I had a Molson Money jar of cash I found for Molson™ Goldens which was alway full!

now I will read the "rest of the story"!
 
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FIFTH, there are multiple workarounds posted working around the Radeon dGPU issue. All but one involve bodge wires and/or highly skilled, delicate soldering; the other is understood as a stop-gap.
And then there is this, not free but the soldering requirements are only middle level. If their advertising is accurate it seems quite a nice solution.

 
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I did some parts hunting during last few days. I managed to find 2 x 1GB DDR2 memory which will fit my 2007 Minis to upgrade them to 3GB - 6 euros for the pair. Then I spotted 2pcs of the Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapters for total of 50 euros. And finally I ordered 2 used Intel Pro 2500 180GB SSD's for 14€s. These drives are perfect for old Macs.

The drives arrived today and have 70+% of life left. So, plenty (years and years) for old machines which see only occasional use. :cool:

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CURSED DAUGHTER OF UPDATE, on the cheap, early 2011 i7 2.0 anti-glare A1286!
(an update in six parts)



Well… things kind of escalated quickly.



FIRST, an unexpected thing happened.

Last weekend, another local seller who hadn’t replied to my inquiry a fortnight ago about the posting for of their dead, anti-glare, early 2011 2.0 i7 A1286 — priced even lower than the one I did buy a fortnight ago — suddenly pinged back a week later and was all, “Sure, it’s yours if you want it.” So, well, at the equivalent of $15 in freedom dollars ($20 in maple money), I picked up a second, identical-spec laptop built two months earlier. (No hard drive or MagSafe adapter, but try buying any single working component inside for less than that, with shipping; at the very least, having this as a parts donor will be good.)

Unlike the first, which I have gotten up and running, this second one faces deeper issues.

Namely, when it POSTs (if it posts… chiming very quietly), it either reaches a dark screen, a off-white screen, or an off-white screen with vertical line distortion from the all-but dead Radeon GPU.

As with the first A1286, the OEM battery in there is dead dead dead. Unlike the first A1286, I cannot boot into a live USB of Arch Linux, because the EFI boot options screen won’t appear. (Yes, I even disconnected the HDD cable at the board, as this is known to sometimes present an all-white screen problem beyond anything relating to a model’s dying/dead GPU.)

So for now, that’s a deeper project I’ll keep around for later, but I’m in no rush to futz with it.

Cosmetically, it has one, blunt-force dent on the front, toward the right (in front of the HDD bay), which I may be able to finesse back out eventually. It was also a lot more dusty inside than the other A1286, suggesting the combination of Apple’s poor thermal management design, accelerated by someone who didn’t take care of their stuff (clogged fin stacks, caked fans, and a sheen of fine dust all over the board) is what hastened the complete failure of the dGPU, preventing other workarounds without, probably, a complete replacement of the Radeon to get it to POST and boot (which would, at least, let it plod along in that slow-death way).



SECOND, the working, used OEM battery arrived. :D

The A-grade OEM battery from the aforementioned, reputable seller (’sup, Beetstech) arrived late last week.

I put it in last night, but it wasn’t until this evening before I could have a better look at its age and health, given what I paid for (i.e., more than what I paid for the entire MBP, but maybe a difference of about $20 — well less of what Apple once charged when they still stocked them at the Apple Store).

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Given the date of manufacture, my guess is the battery came from a mid-2012 donor. Between the cycle count, the hardware mod I completed successfully, and setting Charge Limiter to 80 per cent (same as my late 2011 A1278), this battery ought to, hopefully, last for the remainder of my ever using this laptop. I now know an OEM battery serial beginning with D8 is from Simplo.



THIRD, I’m still having trouble with the dosdude1-patched Mojave on this system and the iSight camera not working. Help with troubleshooting is welcomed. :)

The green iSight light comes on, but camera preview window remains blank/black. On the testing HDD this laptop is using, there is also an install of Lion; I confirmed the camera works fine on 10.7.5, so this is a specific software thing related to this MacBookPro8,2’s patching. I’m at a loss, and feedback or pointers to other solutions on the forums or elsewhere is definitely welcomed here.

I don’t think it’s security denying access, given this message on Console upon launch of Photo Booth (which, by default, has audio-video access, out-of-box on a fresh install):

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iSight camera also doesn’t work in QuickTime, FaceTime, or custom avatar setup for Users & Groups. When starting a video record in QuickTime, a series of the same error repeats about 20 times (probably hardware/system re-attempts before giving up):

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[My understanding is the iSight Patch relates to fixes for the MBP5,2 only and wouldn’t address the issue here on the MBP8,2.]

I may try pulling out my iSight FireWire camera this week (it’s buried in a box) to verify whether this issue carries over to other camera devices outside the internal bus.

As it is, my patches include:

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(I parse “version 0” as a patch which is not currently being used, but someone please correct me if that’s wrong.)


FOURTH, I think I figured out why the 8GB Corsair stick keeps showing up as 4GB.

Of all the sticks I’ve tested in the A1286, it’s the only DDR3 module I have which is 1066MHz; the rest have all been 1333MHz. Even when it’s the only stick, either bay, it still shows as 4GB in the A1286 (but 8GB in my late 2011 A1278); even the Corsair model number displayed by Memtest86 shows one change of digit (an 8, denoting 8GB, turns into a 4 mysteriously). What this tells me is a 16GB setup will require two, 1333MHz or greater DDR3 sticks.



FIFTH, there are multiple workarounds posted working around the Radeon dGPU issue. All but one involve bodge wires and/or highly skilled, delicate soldering; the other is understood as a stop-gap.

For now, I took the risk of the method presented by RealMacMods, from the 2018 Wayback Machine capture, on their steps for disabling power and logic to the dGPU. Yes, it has problems (like the imperative to never zap NVRAM/PRAM, something I never really do anyway on Intel Macs).

[Also, it calls for downloading Arch Linux, but sometime after 2021, Arch’s boot procedure changed, making it impossible for the live system to boot with the current trio of monthly updates (whether with or without the nomodeset flag appended in GRUB). Once I could find an older, 2021 build, the RealMacMods steps proceeded without hassle.]

Of the three known, somewhat invasive workarounds — the SPI-ROM flashing; the gMux IC wire re-routing; and the RealMacMods removal of one resistor, R8911, whose removal cuts power to the dGPU (following the setting and locking of the same basic EFI variables in the firmware workaround, but modifying the EFI file system commands via the Arch Linux live boot), I chose the latter because I’m terrible.

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My soldering skills, on a 1 to 10 — dosdude1 being an 11, if we’re being 💯 — are maybe a 3.5 when I’m in practice (which I am decidedly not). Removing a resistor this small is at the upper reach of my solder skills (the R8911 resistor is maybe one-fourth the size of a just-hatched monarch caterpillar (a monarch caterpillar egg, at about 1mm wide, can rest on the head of a sewing pin, so the R8911 resistor would have no trouble falling through the head).

I almost made a mistake (when a blob of solder fell and melted across several, adjacent SMD pieces), but I’d prepared for that possibility with flux, solder, and copper wick (all invaluable).

Knowing it would either work or fail catastrophically, I put the removed, minuscule, but probably now-damaged resistor into a tiny zip-shut baggie, taping that to the laptop battery as a reminder for later, then powered it on.

And well, this is what I’m now seeing:

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I think I’ll be good with this.



SIXTH and last, once I’m able to solve the iSight camera issue (I’d like to solve this within the week, since I’ve video meetings coming up soon after), I may try out the viability of migrating both SSDs from my late 2011 13-inch A1278 MBP to the A1286, to determine whether both my 10.6.8 build with roots dating back to 5 September 2009 (on one SSD), and the dosdude1-patched 10.14.6 for the MBP8,1 A1278 (on the other SSD) can both boot properly in a mildly different hardware setting from the same generation.



Seriously, though: if anyone might have a clear grasp why iSight is not working, I’m all ears.

Pics of the final laptop doing ordinary laptop things, with the replaced clutch cover and capacities within upgraded, are still to come.

iSight notwithstanding, I think I’m beginning to like this infernal thing. :)





EDIT to add: It’s a long weekend and I’m quite awake, so heck it. I pulled the parts box from the basement to find and connect both the iSight FireWire camera and a basic, borescope-style USB camera (which I use for things like board close-ups).

The system did recognize the iSight FW camera and the live image appeared in both QuickTime and PhotoBooth. The USB borescope camera was not recognized (though its bus-powered LED ring lighting worked fine). (That camera works on the A1278.) Even with iSight FW working, I could not get the system to, say, use the iSight FW on Photo Booth whilst trying to use the built-in iSight in QuickTime.

So I’m stumped: cameras on USB aren’t happy, nor are they happening.
Wow….I happen to have a 2011 15” MacBook Pro that only needs a battery sitting in my garage but after reading this horror story of a post, I’ll probably turn it in to the recycler and save myself this future pointless nightmare…
 
Wow….I happen to have a 2011 15” MacBook Pro that only needs a battery sitting in my garage but after reading this horror story of a post, I’ll probably turn it in to the recycler and save myself this future pointless nightmare…
I have 2 of 2011 15" MBPs. The early one is already a goner and beyond salvation, so basically scrap. The late one still works perfectly and is occasionally used by my wife for some music stuff. I've been pondering that should I be smart and do a pre-emptive strike and kill the problem GPU before it shows any signs of trouble and thus avoid bigger problems in the future? Or do I take the risk and see if I have the one and only perfect, non troubled, MBP 2011 in the universe? ;)

Ps. I am sure somebody in our forum will gladly try to resurrect and keep alive your MBP if you don't want to do it yourself. No point in giving it to the recycler.
 
If you’re serious about doing everything in correct, chronological order, well… let’s visit my Star Wars Canon directory :D

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This looks so much better in Snow Leopard or, I suppose, Mountain Lion. But the hues to note — red, orange, yellow, and blue — denote the four “ages” adopted, per the Wikipedia page on the whole Star Wars timeline. [In my directory, green and purple signal to me the video format in which I have it archived, so those can be ignored here.] BBY/ABY is short for “Before Battle of Yavin” and “After Battle of Yavin” from Episode IV.

The alphabetical order of the directory, to preserve temporal continuity at a glance, was made possible by labelling stories outside the trilogy of trilogies with decimals and all the trilogy instalments with all-capital letters.

So it’s your call. :)

I'm surprised that there hasn't been more interest in this post - the amount of work that's involved in compiling and maintaining this directory (with new additions to the SW franchise) in such meticulous detail has to be exhaustive.

The Force is with you. :)
 
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I'm surprised that there hasn't been more interest in this post - the amount of work that's involved in compiling and maintaining this directory (with new additions to the SW franchise) in such meticulous detail has to be exhaustive.

The Force is with you. :)
It may come down to how dedicated people are. I love Star Wars, but I'm not that dedicated. :D

I still have several seasons of the Clone Wars to watch and really liking Ahsoka doesn't seem to be enough to make me finish watching the clunky animation and suspension of reality that goes with it sometimes.

I mean, the whole premise of making peace-loving Jedi knights who have no experience in war, let alone have ever ignited a light saber in anger, generals in a grand army is just eye-brow raising. So, I pick my silly moments. :D
 
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Pulled this out as a reference today while doing some writing in IDCC24 (2009 Mac Pro).

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Purchased September 19, 1986 at Four Color Comics in San Bernardino, CA. I was 16. I know the exact date because it was my birthday and my mom gave me $100 to spend.

Of course, it was a bound book at the time I got it. It ended up in a binder only when the pages started falling out. MechWarrior RPG, 1st Edition by FASA.
 
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