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What have you done with an early Intel recently?
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Seen that?
I did, although I somehow find this setup with the 2007 MBP to be more impressive — possibly in no small part because my Cinema Display is the ADC 20-inch variety from 2003 and not the DVI of the original series.
Also, I just realized the setup you have with the 2007 MBP could also work on the PowerBook5,8 and PowerBook5,9, on account of both having dual-link DVI ports (and, I suppose, they also have S-video, but I don’t know how that would work simultaneously with a dual-link output).
Their Mobility Radeon 9700 does not properly display a resolution of 3840-by-something in Mac OS X, limiting you to 2560-by-something.
Anyway, the Matrox TripleHead2Go Digital Edition is preferable for you since it accepts dual-link DVI directly.
I’m looking at Everymac’s specs for both the MBP4,1 and the PowerBook5,8/5,9, side by side. There must be something incorrect with their description of the MBP4,1, as it shows the same resolution limits for a second display as the PowerBooks:
This doesn’t add up, given how the GeForce 8600M GT has four times the VRAM and is a much faster unit than the Mobility Radeon 9700.
Anyway, the Matrox TripleHead2Go Digital Edition is preferable for you since it accepts dual-link DVI directly.
Aaaaaaa there’s so much going on with these boxes and adapters! I suspect these will be the most spendy part of a future display expansion, since people locally seem to be constantly dumping older LCDs to level up to the latest stuff, causing a bit of a glut in used displays.
Pixel clock is what matters here. Dual-link DVI is officially specced for 330 MHz but might go higher (on recent GPUs). However, 2560×1600 at 60 Hz only requires about 270 MHz using CVT reduced blanking (LCD) timings, which is what both GPUs officially support since there were basically no higher-res displays around at that time (*cough* Bertha *cough*). 3840×2160 at 60 Hz, for comparison, requires a 533 MHz pixel clock (using CVT-RB timings), far beyond what these GPUs are able to do.
I have, however, run 3840×2160 at 30 Hz from my 2007 MBP - flawlessly. That requires a slightly lower pixel clock than 2560×1600 at 60 Hz.
You can occasionally find them very cheaply on eBay. The TripleHead2Go can be more expensive than the DualHead2Go, and the newer DisplayPort variants of either tend to be more sought after than the older VGA or dual-link DVI variants.
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Fooled around with an app @Amethyst1 found for me. Windows CE app (I used the ARM version).
Won't work with Screen Sharing, but Chicken of the VNC picks it up.
Won't work with Screen Sharing, but Chicken of the VNC picks it up.
Snow Leopard 10.6.8 was the apex of Apple development for Mac based OS. The best OS of all time, IMHO. Nothing compares with it, absolutely nothing.Today I booted my 2008 MBP to Snow Leopard and played some old school games. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08, to be exact. This machine is my daily driver and runs Mojave most of the time, but I sometimes like to switch to Snow Leopard because it's a beautiful OS and it has Rosetta
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Gimme Jaguar, pleaseTastes differs
Snow Leopard 10.6.8 was the apex of Apple development for Mac based OS. The best OS of all time, IMHO. Nothing compares with it, absolutely nothing. I miss it greatly, sigh...😂 As we speak, I'm bringing my late 2009 27" iMac out of retirement. I have a 10.6.3 CD install disk, and I'm going to load Snow Leopard. This should be fun, looking foward to it!
You’ll get no flak from me! I love Snow Leopard so much that I use it as my daily driver on not only my early 2008 MacBook Pro, but also on my PowerBook G4.
Tastes differs
Gimme Jaguar, please
Every version of OS I've ever used I have made the attempt to impose my own look upon. Kaleidoscope (OS9), Shapeshifter (OS X) and my own dark-oriented themes (Windows, Leopard, Snow Leopard and above). Stock appearance is one of the first things I try to make go away. It's one of the reasons I jailbreak my iPhones, to force my own look on the device.
I like appearance, I just want my own - not Apple's. I think Mojave is probably the first I haven't had to make too many alterations to because dark mode comes with the OS.
Same here - if I’m going to put up with the look'n'feel introduced in Yosemite, I at least want it to be unobtrusively dark.
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I was able to bring home some old Mac hardware as we were clearing out old inventory at work (I work in the IT dept). I brought home a 2006 17" iMac, 2008 20" iMac, 2006 15" MacBook Pro, 2009 13" MacBook Pro and 15" 2010 MacBook Pro (I love working in IT, bringing home old hardware, saving it from the crusher just make me happy). All in pretty good physical condition. I also scored an original iPad 64GB, and an iPad 2 cellular running iOS 7.
I have the 2006 & 2008 iMacs dual booting Mac OS X and Windows XP, for LAN sessions with my boys playing games that I grew up playing.
I think that the 2010 MacBook Pro has the black screen issue, I'll see if I can remedy that with my amateur soldering...
I have the 2006 & 2008 iMacs dual booting Mac OS X and Windows XP, for LAN sessions with my boys playing games that I grew up playing.
I think that the 2010 MacBook Pro has the black screen issue, I'll see if I can remedy that with my amateur soldering...
Treated my lil' 2010 11" MBA running Snow Leopard to some dual-monitor goodness. And yep, the whole thing can even be rotated LOL!
Gah, those stupid bezels on the monitors ruin everything!
The OOTB colours on the monitors don't really match, dang!
Gah, those stupid bezels on the monitors ruin everything!
The OOTB colours on the monitors don't really match, dang!
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PowerBook5,7 (all configs) and PowerBook5,6 (only the higher-end config with 128 MB VRAM) also have dual-link DVI.
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I agree, I'd still be using it as my main OS if it supported few apps that I consider essential (Notes, Reminders, Recipe Keeper and few more). It's such a user-friendly, simple and intuitive system. It's a joy to work on even 12 years later. It's also beautifully designed, so much that I customised my Mojave to look as closely to Snow Leopard as possible.
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When my newer MBP completely broke, I briefly considered dusting off my old aluminium MBP that cannot run anything higher than Snow Leopard, and using it as a daily driver until I find some cheap, more recent Mac. But once I powered it on, I realised that it wouldn't run some websites and many of my favorite apps. How is it even possible to use as daily driver in 2021? I guess you don't use many modern features and don't need to sync it with iPhone?You’ll get no flak from me! I love Snow Leopard so much that I use it as my daily driver on not only my early 2008 MacBook Pro, but also on my PowerBook G4.
There are plenty of browsers out there for early Intel Macs. @wicknix can tell you about them.
As far as syncing with iPhones, yeah, we all can't do anything about that.
I know about the browsers, they are usable for the most part, but, for example, I do most of my grocery shopping on an online supermarket, and they don't support any of the browsers anymore. They don't even support Safari in El Capitan, whatever version it is. So the only workaround for me would be to use my phone, which would be uncomfortable.
Only workaround?
Browsers are identified by online sites by their user agent. All you need is to change what user agent your computer reports to the website. Barring any deeper identification checks (some websites do check deeper) it'll pass.
There are extensions, addons, preference tweaks, etc to change your browser user agent to something the website will accept. This is one of the reasons PowerPC users got so far with TenFourFox.
You could also use a user agent that identifies your device as a phone and the website will serve up the mobile version. Just depends how the site is constructed.
Here is my current user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/94.0.4606.81 Safari/537.36
I'm using Vivaldi.
For some "stubborn" website that flat out refuses to play ball with any of these no matter what you do, you can always virtualise e.g. Linux or Windows 10 and get access to current browsers that way. Not ideal, but an option.
Technically not the same thing, but this is how I use Dropbox on my PowerPC Macs. I leverage an Intel Mac or PC that can still access Dropbox and then share the Dropbox folder to the PowerPC Macs.
OK, I booted into Snow Leopard to try it and I eventually got the supermarket site loaded (in SpiderWeb), but it's still barely usable. Extremely slow with some elements not displaying correctly. Like "Search" button displaying as "COMMON:HEADER.SEARCH.SEARCH", for example. I might still be able to place my order, even though I suspect that the payment gateway (where you enter card details) would not work. But it would be a really painful experience
I'm glad this Mac can run Mojave via patcher so that I can still use the modern web.
There are use-cases in which even a manual User Agent override for a particular site (or globally) won’t enable site features which draw from standards of Javascript/ajax/XHR which are too recent and which were probably only adopted in the past couple of years. Sites which progressively load the page as one scrolls (like NYTimes-dot-com) or pages which draw from pulling database info from elsewhere with the site (like Discogs) are examples where using a recently-updated-for-legacy-system browser in Snow Leopard, like Interweb or Spiderweb or even Nightly, won’t open the page completely.
Just to be sure it wasn’t my usual User Agent I have set for Discogs (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0), I dropped the one you use to see whether specifying a different class of browser (and one which would be more “recent”) might get Discogs to play nice. Alas, no dice, as “Other Variants”, “Recommendations”, and “Reviews” come up with perpetual spinning clocks:
It’s kind of vexing in its own way, since this issue only impacts a few sites, but they’re sites which nevertheless, by intentional development decisions, refuse to degrade gracefully for legacy browsers/systems — even though there really isn’t anything special in those broken features (which proeviously wasn’t being done without issue prior to when said sites added these recent upgrades to JS/ajax/XHR employing features rolled out only in the past couple of years).
Guys, need a bit of advice. Macbook A1342 - it can't run in Target Mode? (It's a pity it doesn't have FW ports...)
USB Target Disk Mode was only introduced with the 12“ MacBook in 2015, making the lack of FireWire in those early non-Thunderbolt Macs even more of a pity.
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