What have you done with an early Intel recently?

[Certificate of Excellence]

Having some fun with my SL portable. It is so much easier to authenticate/customize your macs core service/files on these older OS's within the gui. It's a big pain in the butt on newer macOS iterations having to pretty much move around files in terminal/sudo. At least I haven't stumbled upon an easier way to do it.

 

[Amethyst1]

It is so much easier to authenticate/customize your macs core service/files on these older OS's within the gui.

Here's mine.

 

[EugW]

I have found early Intel Macs can have all sorts of uses. (Excluding from 2008+ Mac Pro's which are more powerful than some modern machines). If your early Intel can be patched to run up to Catalina I'd say the possibilities are pretty endless as far as day to day use.

I guess I just made the cutoff... I'm posting right now from a 2007 Mac Pro, manufactured in December.

However, I recently had the dreaded expired web certificate issue preventing me from visiting all sorts of sites in Safari and Chrome. Now I have Keychain Access set to always trust that certificate, and now everything works.

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[eyoungren]

I guess I just made the cutoff...

The cutoff is somewhere around 2010-2011. At least that's what I understand anyway.

My 2009 MacPro and my two 2009 Mac Minis count. 👍

 

[EugW]

The cutoff is somewhere around 2010-2011. At least that's what I understand anyway.

My 2009 MacPro and my two 2009 Mac Minis count. 👍

The OP specifically excluded 2008+ Mac Pros, but I agree with you.

P.S. We also have a 2008 MacBook (aluminum unibody) and a 2009 13" MacBook Pro in active use, both running Catalina. In addition we have a 2010 iMac in active use, running 10.13 High Sierra. We also have a number of other older Intel Macs but they are not in use, mainly because of the supported OSes. I consider 10.13 as a preferred minimum, with 10.11 El Capitan as the bare minimum for daily use. Anything older than 10.11 is just for fun in this household.

 

[dukebound85]

I recently put out to pasture a 2008 mbp that was used daily for my wife's work from home machine until about a month ago

I have repurposed it as being my dedicated plex server.

Seems to be working great

 

[eyoungren]

The OP specifically excluded 2008+ Mac Pros, but I agree with you.

Yeahhh…I've known @Project Alice in these forums for a while, so I just ignored that.

 

[eyoungren]

I recently put out to pasture a 2008 mbp that was used daily for my wife's work from home machine until about a month ago

I have repurposed it as being my dedicated plex server.

Seems to be working great

I'm still using my 2008 MBP, primarily as an internet surf/post computer. It's running Catalina.

 

[Amethyst1]

The cutoff is somewhere around 2010-2011. At least that's what I understand anyway.

But the MPs have their own subforum, with this one primarily focussing on other models, at least as far as I understand.

 

[eyoungren]

But the MPs have their own subforum, with this one primarily focussing on other models, at least as far as I understand.

That is true. But I'd rather discuss and post about my 2009 MP here. I consider it to be the same sort of thing where we were discussing early Intels in the PowerPC subforum before this subforum existed.

 

[Amethyst1]

But I'd rather discuss and post about my 2009 MP here.

Sure, I totally get that. No chance to run across the Get A New Mac solution here

 

[B S Magnet]

The cutoff is somewhere around 2010-2011. At least that's what I understand anyway.

My 2009 MacPro and my two 2009 Mac Minis count. 👍

@EugW : Yah. We’re at a point where every Core Solo, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, Core iX (up to Sandy Bridge) Mac, and Xeon Mac Pros, up to the Westmere, more or less, fall within the “early Intel Macs” camp. All share basically the following traits:

• all were offered for sale through 2012, including the mid-2010 C2D MacBook and “mid-2009” (mid-2010) iMac C2D/2.26 20-inch education edition (the Westmeres, aka, the MacPro5,1, stuck around until 2013)
• all run Snow Leopard (and per @LightBulbFun , the Nehalem single-CPU MacPro5,1 can even boot into Leopard)
• all were available between 2006 and 2013, which is (by every measure) the first half of the Intel Mac era
• although not a trait, per se, there are Core 2 Duo models from 2008 capable of running everything up to Big Sur (and probably Monterey)
• with exception to the MacBook Air, all have RAM which can be upgraded, and all have hard drives which can be replaced
• none of them natively feature USB 3.0 (someone check me on this in case I’m wrong)
• most of them (with notable exceptions, like all MacBook Airs and the unibody MacBook) have some form of FireWire on board
• all use AirPort Extreme 802.11n PCIe cards
• with exceptions to the mid-2011 Mac mini and mid-2011 MacBook Air, none have Bluetooth 4.0; they either have an earlier version or no Bluetooth at all

 

[joevt]

all run Snow Leopard (and per @LightBulbFun , the Nehalem single-CPU MacPro5,1 can even boot into Leopard)

I guess you mentioned Leopard for MacPro5,1 since it shipped with Snow Leopard?
In that vein of running earlier macOS versions than is supported, I can run Tiger on my MacPro3,1. #124 (supports Leopard).

 

[B S Magnet]

I guess you mentioned Leopard for MacPro5,1 since it shipped with Snow Leopard?
In that vein of running earlier macOS versions than is supported, I can run Tiger on my MacPro3,1. #124 (supports Leopard).

No, the MacPro5,1 shipped with either Lion 10.7.4 or Mountain Lion. The 2012 Nehalem single-CPU version of MacPro5,1 is the model which is capable of booting, remarkably, into not only Snow Leopard, but also Leopard.

 

[joevt]

No, the MacPro5,1 shipped with either Lion 10.7.4 or Mountain Lion. The 2012 Nehalem single-CPU version of MacPro5,1 is the model which is capable of booting, remarkably, into not only Snow Leopard, but also Leopard.

I was looking at https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-core-2.8-mid-2010-nehalem-specs.html
(click Pre-Installed MacOS).

 

[B S Magnet]

I was looking at https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-core-2.8-mid-2010-nehalem-specs.html
(click Pre-Installed MacOS).

Sorry, I should be clearer: the MacPro5,1 mid-2012 models are what I am referring to here. There was one in 2012 with the Nehalem single-CPU configuration. This, along with the 2012 Westmere configurations, sold until late 2013.

 

[Jack Neill]

Got the 2,1 out to grab some things from the Garden. Tiger will forever hold a place in my heart. It’s snappy af on this 2.0 C2D and an SSD. I really wish I still had the G3/G4 iBooks I used to have.

 

[bobesch]

@EugW : Yah. We’re at a point where every Core Solo, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, Core iX (up to Sandy Bridge) Mac, and Xeon Mac Pros, up to the Westmere, more or less, fall within the “early Intel Macs” camp. All share basically the following traits:

• all were offered for sale through 2012, including the mid-2010 C2D MacBook and “mid-2009” (mid-2010) iMac C2D/2.26 20-inch education edition (the Westmeres, aka, the MacPro5,1, stuck around until 2013)
• all run Snow Leopard (and per @LightBulbFun , the Nehalem single-CPU MacPro5,1 can even boot into Leopard)
• all were available between 2006 and 2013, which is (by every measure) the first half of the Intel Mac era
• although not a trait, per se, there are Core 2 Duo models from 2008 capable of running everything up to Big Sur (and probably Monterey)
• with exception to the MacBook Air, all have RAM which can be upgraded, and all have hard drives which can be replaced
• none of them natively feature USB 3.0 (someone check me on this in case I’m wrong)
• most of them (with notable exceptions, like all MacBook Airs and the unibody MacBook) have some form of FireWire on board
• all use AirPort Extreme 802.11n PCIe cards
• with exceptions to the mid-2011 Mac mini and mid-2011 MacBook Air, none have Bluetooth 4.0; they either have an earlier version or no Bluetooth at all

I'd appreciate to add all pre-retina MacBook(Pro)s (including the i3/5/7 models) to the list.
(Time will prove they'll find their way to this place anyway!)

 

[eyoungren]

I'd appreciate to add all pre-retina MacBook(Pro)s (including the i3/5/7 models) to the list.
(Time will prove they'll find their way to this place anyway!)

I think…and probably most will agree…early Intel is going to be what we all choose it to be. We've all been with the PowerPC forums for some time and moved over here to talk about the Macs we talked about there. We even discuss PCs. I own Thinkpads because that was the suggestion at the time in the PowerPC forum.

This community is too tight to throw each other out to other subforums simply because we start owning stuff that the subforum technically does not cover.

I could be wrong in that opinion, but I doubt it.

 

[eyoungren]

Neighbor across the street is moving…

Toshiba 37E200U. 37.6" HDTV, 1080P. It actually has a VGA connection as well as four HDMI ports. It works. Full 1080P.



Just need to figure out which Mac I am going to attach it to. It's too big to replace the 20" Acrylic Cinema Display, so the MP is out. It's probably going to get hooked up to the Mini - which may then go back into the garage.

Decisions…

 

[Project Alice]

I guess I just made the cutoff... I'm posting right now from a 2007 Mac Pro, manufactured in December.

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However, I recently had the dreaded expired web certificate issue preventing me from visiting all sorts of sites in Safari and Chrome. Now I have Keychain Access set to always trust that certificate, and now everything works.

Internet Blackout of September 30: What is it and why is it happening? - The Yucatan Times

Let's Encrypt's DST Root CA X3 CA security certificate will expire, which tends to connect with some old devices. September 30, 2021.- This Thursday, September 30, an important event related to the world of technology will take place: an internet blackout that will involve several devices that...

www.theyucatantimes.com

The OP specifically excluded 2008+ Mac Pros, but I agree with you.

Yeahhh…I've known @Project Alice in these forums for a while, so I just ignored that.

Haha personally I don’t see an issue with Mac Pros being talked about in this sub forum 🤷🏼‍♂️

When Early Intel got it’s own section it was specified Mac Pros (all of them) would be kept to their own Mac Pro forum. However as a common frequenter of that forum (well, not lately. But 2 years ago I was) most of those users only really talked about the 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros. 1,1/2,1s, and 3,1s while occasionally popped up; are honestly more suited to this section since us weirdo “retro” enthusiast are more likely to help than they are anyways.

My comment in my OP was referring to the fact that the 3,1s+ are capable of running the latest OS and can be used daily rather easily. As far as I’m concerned the more early MPs in this thread the better🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Neighbor across the street is moving…

Toshiba 37E200U. 37.6" HDTV, 1080P. It actually has a VGA connection as well as four HDMI ports. It works. Full 1080P.

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Just need to figure out which Mac I am going to attach it to. It's too big to replace the 20" Acrylic Cinema Display, so the MP is out. It's probably going to get hooked up to the Mini - which may then go back into the garage.

Decisions…

That was my first thought. It makes great sense wall mounted as a multi purpose monitor/tv out in the garage hooked up to your minu and whatever else suits you. I’ve been looking for the exact type of single 1080p big screen solution for my garage set up.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Here's mine.

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Ooh, I like that very much.

Haha personally I don’t see an issue with Mac Pros being talked about in this sub forum

Me neither, especially the 1,1 & 2,1s. Just ask whatcha gunna ask and chances are someone here will reply with actual help because this forum is gangsta and that's how we roll. There will always be those obnoxious pedantic users ready to point out the fact that you are incorrectly posting about cmps in an early intel forum because ... well who cares what they think. Let them make themselves visible, put them on your ignore list and proceed with your question/statement. Folks most interested in helping you will almost assuredly chime in.

Helping is what is important and is why this and the PowerPC forum are as good as they are.

 

[eyoungren]

That was my first thought. It makes great sense wall mounted as a multi purpose monitor/tv out in the garage hooked up to your minu and whatever else suits you. I’ve been looking for the exact type of single 1080p big screen solution for my garage set up.

Well…gonna have to think. The garage is an absolute mess and all the Macs I use routinely out there I pulled inside because of the summer heat. Not sure I want to put any back. And if I do, it's going to mean cleaning that place up. I need to anyway, but just thinking about it is enough to make me go off an do something else.

Besides that, I have my 17" MBP connected to a 40" rear projection TV (Sony) already out there. Another freebie someone down the street threw out shortly after we moved in.

Note that compared to what the garage looks like now, this is pretty organized.

I'm thinking, I'd like to use the new display as a primary monitor inside the house as the Sony in the garage already serves the same purpose.

IDK, I'm just vacillating. I really need my kids to move out so all my stuff can go in one of their rooms like it did before we had kids!

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Well…gonna have to think. The garage is an absolute mess and all the Macs I use routinely out there I pulled inside because of the summer heat. Not sure I want to put any back. And if I do, it's going to mean cleaning that place up. I need to anyway, but just thinking about it is enough to make me go off an do something else.

Besides that, I have my 17" MBP connected to a 40" rear projection TV (Sony) already out there. Another freebie someone down the street threw out shortly after we moved in.

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Note that compared to what the garage looks like now, this is pretty organized.

I'm thinking, I'd like to use the new display as a primary monitor inside the house as the Sony in the garage already serves the same purpose.

IDK, I'm just vacillating. I really need my kids to move out so all my stuff can go in one of their rooms like it did before we had kids!

Uh oh, what happens if they move out and your stuff doesn't fit in their room. I say start small - with that peanut can! Man that is one big projection tv. I need my screen solution to be able to hang on a wall as my garage is pretty small (dunno what the house designers were smoking by the time they got around to the garage) but I've thought more than once about a projection tv. Folks around here are still giving those away. I see one at least every month or so pop up on CL. I hear ya on the summer garage heat. Take the time to get a nice set up out there over the comfy winter and by the time April comes around you're cooked alive next to the buick.

Sometimes you just can't win
... well except you did win. You got a free 37" 1080p tv which is pretty badass. Nice score.