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dosdude1 said:
That generally is the case, with the exception of the "QE" series chips... All shown and explained in the video.
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Thanks. I just wrapped up the video, and I am grinning ear-to-ear…

Next question, and probably the most obvious to ask second, is how much of a toasty boi does that i7-3615QE get under intensive loads — i.e., how much turbo boost throttling are you seeing given how there’s the stock heat sink tubing and only one fan for thermal dissipation designed by Apple with only a dual core chip in mind?

I ask the above, as I’ve taken notice of how much warmer my late 2011 i7-2640M can get versus my early 2011 i5-2415M (which the former replaced recently), and how much more likely, even with fresh Noctua thermal paste and clean fan, the 2640M can tickle 98–99°C and can get the turbo setting to dial back a bit whenever it does.

(Separately, this means it looks like I’ll be saving my babysitting, car washing, and lifeguarding money this coming summer to pick up an i7-2715QE and to cover return shipping and labour to Colintown, U.S.A., for that extra i5-2415M board I now have lying about.)
 
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wicknix said:
I gave in and installed Catalina on my sisters old donated 09 MBP via @dosdude1 's catalina patcher after replacing the tired spinning rust with a cheap netac SSD. It runs amazingly well.

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Where as I recently replaced the Cat I had on an external SSD on my iMac 10,1 with...
Snow Leopard.

I'd installed Catalina to try out Apple TV ..but discovered it couldn't run my 32bit EyeTv.
I use HD install of High Sierra to go online..or live antiX from a USB stick.
..antix isn't good for live streaming of movies though..no fan control so overheats the GPU.
 
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eyoungren said:
It wasn't blue enough. LOL!

That's the immediate reaction I started having to it, but the reality is that the laying out of it wasn't working. I wanted that all important connection again and it just wasn't there. Except for the background, nothing looked like it belonged together.

I tend to heavily favor blues in my backgrounds though, despite the fact that I usually wear black and my favorite color is red. :)

What I did not want to do this time around was have an object in the middle that split between the two monitors. So I was finding it difficult to connect the two halves. So, I started over. With the book in the middle, it does split, but you get an even split with a left page and a right page. And the two characters in the book tie in to a personal objective. I can explain that, but it requires mentioning who the characters are. ;)
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Interesting thing bout colour. In graphic design critiques we had to have good reason for every element in the design. In one of the early ones a student was asked, "why did you use these colours?"
She gave a non-coherent sort of answer. Then was asked, "Do you just happen to like these colours"
Yes, she replied.
To which the Prof responded - I thought so..they're the same colours that you're wearing.

Lesson learnt..as students we were quick to point out others who did that in following critiques.


In landscape design you can control how someone moves thru a landscape and wot they look at...though they may not be aware of it.

It can also be done in page layout design. There is a cultural factor as we (from reading) tend to start from the top left corner. (I guess reverse reading cultures don't??)
Focal points can control how the viewers eyes travel across the page (or in your case, screen).
In your design, eyou, the two women's faces are fairly strong focal points. It was only after looking at those that I then started to focus on other detail.

You can map out a course of focal points with a hierarchy of importance..and see if you can take the viewer on a journey sort of thing.

I imagine you are well aware of this..but it's not a bad thing to have reminders now and then.
 
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mortlocli said:
Interesting thing bout colour. In graphic design critiques we had to have good reason for every element in the design. In one of the early ones a student was asked, "why did you use these colours?"
She gave a non-coherent sort of answer. Then was asked, "Do you just happen to like these colours"
Yes, she replied.
To which the Prof responded - I thought so..they're the same colours that you're wearing.

Lesson learnt..as students we were quick to point out others who did that in following critiques.


In landscape design you can control how someone moves thru a landscape and wot they look at...though they may not be aware of it.

It can also be done in page layout design. There is a cultural factor as we (from reading) tend to start from the top left corner. (I guess reverse reading cultures don't??)
Focal points can control how the viewers eyes travel across the page (or in your case, screen).
In your design, eyou, the two women's faces are fairly strong focal points. It was only after looking at those that I then started to focus on other detail.

You can map out a course of focal points with a hierarchy of importance..and see if you can take the viewer on a journey sort of thing.

I imagine you are well aware of this..but it's not a bad thing to have reminders now and then.
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I had an instructor once ask me the same type of question. I was struggling to create a phonebook ad for a company (this was 1992). He asked me, "What are the most important elements that you're looking for when you look for a company in the phone book?"

"The name of the company and their phone number," I told him.

"Then that should be the most important elements in your ad," he tells me.

When I finally started working in the graphic design industry, where did I end up from 1999 to 2018? Newspapers, which run ads. So, this instruction became central to me. But the underlying lesson was, "what are the most important elements of the design?" It's those elements that should be most prominent.

Hence, you gravitated EXACTLY where I intended the focus to be - the faces of the women. Because in all of this, that is what is most important in these desktop layouts of mine. That is what I focus on and what I concentrate on. And it's the discard image that was not doing that for me. I couldn't make the focus on those two previous images central while still trying to use some of the other art. The focus would diverge away. And I don't want the focus to be on lesser parts of the design.

I do use color in my day job. I design golf scorecards and yardage books now, so color, particularly the colors used in the customer's logo is important. We tend to use a lot of light cream colored backgrounds or white backgrounds because golf courses want to imply 'class' or 'elegance' or a 'classic look'. You would not believe how many golf course use a shield as part of their logo, LOL!

Some courses also have branding and you have to adhere to the colors they specify in their branding. So sometimes, I don't get a choice. :D
 
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B S Magnet said:
Thanks. I just wrapped up the video, and I am grinning ear-to-ear…

Next question, and probably the most obvious to ask second, is how much of a toasty boi does that i7-3615QE get under intensive loads — i.e., how much turbo boost throttling are you seeing given how there’s the stock heat sink tubing and only one fan for thermal dissipation designed by Apple with only a dual core chip in mind?

I ask the above, as I’ve taken notice of how much warmer my late 2011 i7-2640M can get versus my early 2011 i5-2415M (which the former replaced recently), and how much more likely, even with fresh Noctua thermal paste and clean fan, the 2640M can tickle 98–99°C and can get the turbo setting to dial back a bit whenever it does.

(Separately, this means it looks like I’ll be saving my babysitting, car washing, and lifeguarding money this coming summer to pick up an i7-2715QE and to cover return shipping and labour to Colintown, U.S.A., for that extra i5-2415M board I now have lying about.)
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It definitely gets warm, but it doesn't seem to run any hotter than with the stock CPU.
 
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eyoungren said:
There's this one…

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That “personal touch” chyron garbage — seems lots of folks want the world to know who they are! — is what I call “doctoring”, and it is, bar none, the most infuriating thing I run across when I’m archiving music videos. It’s even worse than when finding the only source, posted by the artist themselves, is still only 240p (and that’s pretty bad… yes, Bryan Adams [all] and a-ha [ca. 2005–2009 clips], I’m glaring at y’all).

The only two classes of music video chyrons I’m OK with is A) when it comes from the former music video subscription services of yore (such as Telegenics and Rockamerica), which used to only deal with VJs and club DJs who had a house spending budget to buy material for upcoming sets. The Telegenics stuff, in particular, was always top-notch in that their “issues” were always sent out on Betacam tape (not Betamax) and so the quality was SD broadcast-level fidelity. After a time, they came up with a visual timing formula for when they’d show the chyron for what the song was. Now, some of the music videos to make their way onto those Telegenics reels, especially on the small, short-lived, independent labels, are possibly the only places where those music videos still exist.

Or B), the other class is when no other official source is available, and it’s an uncut music video clip grabbed from a cable station like M2, rage, and the like (rage, in particular, have been kind of amazing at this for over thirty years).
 
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I’ve turned into more of a lurker in the early Intel forums ever since I started buying newer and newer Macs. I started here with just a late 2006 iMac as my main, then bought a 2012 Mini and last week I bought a brand new Mac for the first time in my entire life o_O

But the great part about this is that I now have another older spare Mac to mess around with, which is precisely what I intend to do with my 2012 Mini. ;) I’ve noticed some people consider it early Intel because it has a firewire connector, but others consider it late Intel because of its Metal support.
I actually did use a fw800 external hdd caddy because it saved me a usb port, but now I‘ll have to find another way to hook up my drive.

Anyways, I’m debating what I’m going to do with my 2012 Mini. My 2009 Mini is currently set up in the attic with Snow Leopard and I might just put the 2012 next to it on the same display with Mojave maybe. Selling it definitely wont be worth the effort!
 
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Heindijs said:
I’ve turned into more of a lurker in the early Intel forums ever since I started buying newer and newer Macs. I started here with just a late 2006 iMac as my main, then bought a 2012 Mini and last week I bought a brand new Mac for the first time in my entire life o_O

But the great part about this is that I now have another older spare Mac to mess around with, which is precisely what I intend to do with my 2012 Mini. ;) I’ve noticed some people consider it early Intel because it has a firewire connector, but others consider it late Intel because of its Metal support.
I actually did use a fw800 external hdd caddy because it saved me a usb port, but now I‘ll have to find another way to hook up my drive.

Anyways, I’m debating what I’m going to do with my 2012 Mini. My 2009 Mini is currently set up in the attic with Snow Leopard and I might just put the 2012 next to it on the same display with Mojave maybe. Selling it definitely wont be worth the effort!
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If metal support is the dividing line for early/late Intel, then by simply putting two Metal compatible cards in my 2009 Mac Pro means I'm in the wrong forum. ;)

PS. I have a late 2009 and early 2009 Mini, both running Mojave (patched). I used them for media, writing and some light graphic design/work. They are side by side. :D

PS. Still love your avatar. :D
 
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B S Magnet said:
Tech industry with their names for standards and languages and protocols are out of hand!

“I tried running the Aqua interface on my Metal-equipped Mac and suddenly I was left with Rust! D: ”
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Seriously, though: the use of names for arbitrary objects which have nothing to do with technology is a long-time pet-peeve of mine. Ruby, Cocoa, even Quartz. Use of those as names leaves me thinking, every time, “What does this have to do with the actual [object name]?”
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My favorite is and always will be the names for ways to divide a byte. We all know that a byte is made up of eight bits, but what about half a byte?

That's a Nybble.
 
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eyoungren said:
If metal support is the dividing line for early/late Intel, then by simply putting two Metal compatible cards in my 2009 Mac Pro means I'm in the wrong forum. ;)
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Maybe factory Metal support is a better divider ;)
eyoungren said:
PS. I have a late 2009 and early 2009 Mini, both running Mojave (patched). I used them for media, writing and some light graphic design/work. They are side by side. :D
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Patched Catalina runs surprisingly well for me on my late 2009 Mini as well. Definitely doesn’t come close to my 2012 Mini in a lot of areas, but I could totally see my self still using it daily if I’d have to
PS. Still love your avatar.
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:) Still my favourite phone of all time. What a beast for a phone from 2009!
 
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B S Magnet said:
Seriously, though: the use of names for arbitrary objects which have nothing to do with technology is a long-time pet-peeve of mine. Ruby, Cocoa, even Quartz. Use of those as names leaves me thinking, every time, “What does this have to do with the actual [object name]?”
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Better yet are the various code names for Apple technologies that gained some sense of notoriety in the Mac community, like Elvis (Journalling HFS+ in OS X 10.2.2), Marklar (Intel OS X) and Gollum Smeagol (OS X 10.2.7). Plus all of the fancy wine codenames for OS X before Jobs went all-in on the Big Cat names.
 
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rampancy said:
Better yet are the various code names for Apple technologies that gained some sense of notoriety in the Mac community, like Elvis (Journalling HFS+ in OS X 10.2.2), Marklar (Intel OS X) and Gollum Smeagol (OS X 10.2.7). Plus all of the fancy wine codenames for OS X before Jobs went all-in on the Big Cat names.
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Plus all the old Mac codenames, like Pismo, Sawtooth, Quicksilver, Gossamer, Carl Sagan/BHA/LAW, Spike, etc.

From A7 through A15 they'd been using storm/weather themed names for their CPU core designs as well.

A7: Cyclone
A8: Typhoon
A9: Twister
A10: Hurricane/Zephyr
A11: Monsoon/Mistral
A12: Vortex/Tempest
A13: Lightning/Thunder
A14: Firestorm/Icestorm
A15: Avalanche/Blizzard

And then A16, when they must have decided they'd run out of weather themed names, recycled an old one, with Everest/Sawtooth.
 
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Better yet are the various code names for Apple technologies that gained some sense of notoriety in the Mac community, like Elvis (Journalling HFS+ in OS X 10.2.2), Marklar (Intel OS X) and Gollum Smeagol (OS X 10.2.7). Plus all of the fancy wine codenames for OS X before Jobs went all-in on the Big Cat names.
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Internal code names don’t really irk me as a general premise, as they’re contextual between one another (whether by series precedent, like “___ Bridge” or “___ Lake” with Intel CPUs, or due to some inside-the-company reference).

But every time I see, for example, “Django”, I think “Reinhardt!”, yet it has nothing to do with the musician. :sad trombone:
 
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Burned a DL Windows 10 ISO so my son could install Windows to his PC. Got him to connect to my MacPro so he could also copy the ISO over.

He had the SSD in his PC die the week of finals. Fortunately, all the major finals that required using that PC were already completed.

For myself, I discovered that my NAS is SMB1 only. Didn't realize that. Stock, my son's other W10 laptop will not connect to it.
 
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