What is the date of release? When going on sale?

[WardC]

I want the exact date of release for the new Mac Pro...a definitive date. I want to know when they are going on sale. For certain. I cannot find reference to this anywhere, Apple, or elsewhere. The only thing I see is "Coming later this year"

It is literally driving me insane.

I want a definitive date. NOW.

 

[GGJstudios]

I want the exact date of release for the new Mac Pro...a definitive date. I want to know when they are going on sale. For certain. I cannot find reference to this anywhere, Apple, or elsewhere. The only thing I see is "Coming later this year"

It is literally driving me insane.

I want a definitive date. NOW.

People in hell want ice water, but that doesn't mean that they'll get it.

Only Apple knows the date, and they're not telling anyone.

 

[WardC]

I certainly don't like the game they are playing here.

It's not fair to their customers.

 

[GGJstudios]

I certainly don't like the game they are playing here.

It's not fair to their customers.

It's not unfair, and it's certainly not new. Apple is famous for keeping upcoming releases secret. It'll get here when it gets here.

 

[Julien]

It's not unfair, and it's certainly not new. Apple is famous for keeping upcoming releases secret. It'll get here when it gets here.

Correct and many products are done this way, from cars to belts. Life is FULL of unfair and Apple and the Mac Pro is one of the least unfair of even 1st world unfairness.

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...It is literally driving me insane....

I'm willing to bet your are misusing the word instead of figuratively (as so many do).

 

[theSeb]

First world problems are the toughest.

I don't mind not knowing the exact date, but it would be nice to see the specifications and price points to be able to make some purchase planning decisions.

 

[td2243]

First world problems are the toughest.

LOL. Amen brother.

 

[violst]

IMHO I think it was a good sign that Apple updated the new iMac out of the blue, no hype no rumors just one day, bang a new iMac.

Next will be the new Macbook pros and last the Mac Pro. I think mid to late October for both, just my gut.

 

[theSeb]

Is TB2 ready to roll? The new iMac only has TB1.

 

[snarfquest]

Wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair and all the terrible things that happen to us, come because we actually deserve them? So now I take comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the Universe

 

[deconstruct60]

... price points to be able to make some purchase planning decisions.

Just use the current single package ones with a +/- $100 error bar on them. Take the top two dual BTO price points with 30% bigger error bar on them. A good chance given Apple's track record over last 4-5 years of Mac Pro pricing that you'll be on track to what they are.

Apple generally trades off not pre announcing prices by generally just using the same price points every year. It isn't a guarantee that next year's pricing will be the same, but it is far from so unpredictable you can't do reasonably accurate planning with them

 

[theSeb]

Just use the current single package ones with a +/- $100 error bar on them. Take the top two dual BTO price points with 30% bigger error bar on them. A good chance given Apple's track record over last 4-5 years of Mac Pro pricing that you'll be on track to what they are.

Apple generally trades off not pre announcing prices by generally just using the same price points every year. It isn't a guarantee that next year's pricing will be the same, but it is far from so unpredictable you can't do reasonably accurate planning with them

Sure, but that's not going to tell me exactly what I am getting and how much of it.

 

[deconstruct60]

Sure, but that's not going to tell me exactly what I am getting and how much of it.

Exactly isn't necessary for planning. Apple doesn't know exactly (+/- 0.5%) how many Macs they are going to sell.

Apple is going to use the same set of processors that other folks are using. Look at Xeon E5 1620 , 1650 , 1660 and probably not going to be that far off on CPU results. W7000 and W9000 benchmarks and probably not that far off on GPU results.

If none of those numbers make sense it is highly unlikely that Apple's configs will either.

May need to do some tweaks to the plan ( e.g., Apple cranking up Champaign colored iPhone 5s ) but that doesn't mean didn't have general plan framework in place ahead of time.

 

[Bear]

Just use the current single package ones with a +/- $100 error bar on them. Take the top two dual BTO price points with 30% bigger error bar on them. A good chance given Apple's track record over last 4-5 years of Mac Pro pricing that you'll be on track to what they are.

Apple generally trades off not pre announcing prices by generally just using the same price points every year. It isn't a guarantee that next year's pricing will be the same, but it is far from so unpredictable you can't do reasonably accurate planning with them

If it was the same case, I would say your pricing estimate is correct. With the new Mac Pro I wouldn't be surprised if the base configuration was $2999 or more.

 

[deconstruct60]

If it was the same case, I would say your pricing estimate is correct. With the new Mac Pro I wouldn't be surprised if the base configuration was $2999 or more.

For 6 cores (E5 1650) $2999 I think that is about right. For a E5 1620 (4 cores ) with dual W7000 equivalents ( with more sane pricing given their relative age and lack of discrete FirePro attributes ) I would be surprised if it is that high.

i. There is a significant bubble in the current Mac Pro entry models price. The margin on it is probably higher than some of the higher priced model. My expectation is that Apple is apply that some of that bubble to "paying for" the 2nd GPU which means the price isn't necessarily going to ballon.

ii. The new Mac Pro case and infrastructure outside the CPU/GPU is cheaper. Again it is an offset. Cheaper infrastructure ( and shipping and inventory ) used to offset the 2nd GPU. The difference in case is actually contributing to the price staying the same. Again it is alignment of Apple's general strategy of consistently hitting the same price points.

iii. Apple putting a $1K gap between standard configuration iMac and Mac Pro is a huge hole for what benefit ? It would largely just be a huge hole that Apple's competitors could drive their products through to increase their sales. It makes very little sense for Apple to enable their competitors to steal more than they classic Mac Pro business than necessary. Unless trying to purposely kill off the Mac Pro, that is whacked move. Apple generally doesn't make whacked moves.

As long as the Mac Pro GPUs don't have some crazy 80-120% mark-up slapped on them a mid $2K price point is very possible. There is extremely little happening with FirePro right now and custom Mac Pro only cards right not that would justify over the top markups like that. Apple and AMD can still make buckets of money with Apple like 30-40% margins.

 

[spoonie1972]

It'll be out just in time for the FirePro cards within to seem slow and overpriced.

 

[apple_iBoy]

The only thing I see is "Coming later this year"

I am sitting atop a large return credit from Apple and plan to use it to buy a Mac Pro. I have been champing at the bit for some time.

I could have sworn that the line used to be "coming this fall." If that's the case, I wonder if they're having some issues that necessitate a redefinition to something that could possibly be construed as winter.

 

[deconstruct60]

I could have sworn that the line used to be "coming this fall."

You probably heard the from 3rd party. Apple has consistently targeted 2013 (as the whole year) in their statements. There are lots of folks who twisted those into something synching up with E5 v2, but isn't what they have said.

Technically since Fall (in the Northern Hemisphere) runs all the way up Dec 20. something like Dec 17 would still be aligned with their sometime in 2013 statement and still be Fall.

If that's the case, I wonder if they're having some issues that necessitate a redefinition to something that could possibly be construed as winter.

Intel announced the initial set of E5 in March 2012 and they didn't ship in volume till 2 months later. The combo of potential slippage of E5 v2 , TB v2 , OS X 10.9, setting up and qualifying a new factory, and perhaps even the GPU ( although seems like going with last years .. ) it was probably always much safer to just target the whole year as opposed to a season/quarter.

 

[spaz8]

I thought at WWDC its was "coming later this year" .. and then the ad's that were playing in theaters said "coming this fall".

I'm thinking Halloween atm. I imagine Mavericks and TB2 are the potential holdups.

 

[Julien]

I thought at WWDC its was "coming later this year" .. and then the ad's that were playing in theaters said "coming this fall"...

Since fall ends 10 days (and during the holiday session so very few work days) before the end of the year is there much if any difference?

 

[twoering]

I'm willing to bet your are misusing the word instead of figuratively (as so many do).[/QUOTE]


Well, if the grammar police are out you should be pulled over for your use of "your are" instead of the correct "you're" or "you are". Just sayin'

 

[fastlanephil]

iii. Apple putting a $1K gap between standard configuration iMac and Mac Pro is a huge hole for what benefit ? It would largely just be a huge hole that Apple's competitors could drive their products through to increase their sales. It makes very little sense for Apple to enable their competitors to steal more than they classic Mac Pro business than necessary. Unless trying to purposely kill off the Mac Pro, that is whacked move. Apple generally doesn't make whacked moves.

Also the $1999 iMac Has a built in 27" display so the gap would be actually quite a bit more than $1k when some who are eyeing the Apple display or another monitor tack that on to the total cost.

 

[DisMyMac]

I just know they're going to re-introduce it at the next event, like they didn't already.

 

[flowrider]

I'm certainly not holding my breath

Lou

 

[fiatlux]

Also the $1999 iMac Has a built in 27" display so the gap would be actually quite a bit more than $1k when some who are eyeing the Apple display or another monitor tack that on to the total cost.

I expect the base MacPro to be faster than the highest end iMac, maybe using a 6 cores CPU. With the expandibility gone, raw power is the only reason to go for a new MacPro. A slow MacPro would not make much sense.

I would therefore not be surprised if it was priced above the iMac. One thing to note is that Apple chose an E5 26xx v2 CPU for its prototype MacPro, presumably to get access to 12 cores parts. We will see whether the base models will switch to 16xx CPUs or stick to the more expensive 26xx line.