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ilovemyibook

macrumors 6502
Mar 19, 2006
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2 days minimum. It's insane to think that if I am on a long international flight that my watch could be dead by the time I get to my hotel.

It's insane to me that someone would talk about a long international flight on a forum about Apple's watch.
 

Technodynamic

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2012
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Whatever a full day's 'good amount of use' is, plus sleep. I'd like to charge it once a day (for an hour charge at most), same time every day... but not overnight.
 

greytmom

macrumors 68040
Jun 23, 2010
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1,087
2 days minimum. It's insane to think that if I am on a long international flight that my watch could be dead by the time I get to my hotel.

Wow. How long a flight are you talking about?

Just charge it before you head for the airport...
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,405
2,639
OBX
I want to say it's already been said the screen will be off/asleep, until you flick your wrist and it "wakes up"

Even in that manner, I'm hoping I can use the watch from 7AM to 11PM without it needing a charge.

That stinks, always on is such a better solution. Having to flick your wrist to turn the display on will get annoying pretty quick.
 

leenak

macrumors 68020
Mar 10, 2011
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Wow. How long a flight are you talking about?

Just charge it before you head for the airport...

Have you flown a lot of international flights? I remember when I went to Greece, I counted the hours flying back and it was 23 hours between switching planes and what not. It wasn't too much different when I went to Asia but I never counted it out.
 

Patriot24

macrumors 68030
Dec 29, 2010
2,813
805
California
But from a marketing and PR point of view, I'm sure Apple would love to be able to say that the watch, under normal every day use, should have a similar battery life to your iphone.

Nailed it.

As long as the watch lasts roughly the same amount of time as the phone in your pocket, that should be sufficient. If your phone dies the watch is essentially crippled anyway. My guess is that they're looking for 18-24 hours as a starting point for this first gen.
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,405
2,639
OBX
Nailed it.

As long as the watch lasts roughly the same amount of time as the phone in your pocket, that should be sufficient. If your phone dies the watch is essentially crippled anyway. My guess is that they're looking for 18-24 hours as a starting point for this first gen.
It all depends on usage. 18-24 hours is easy if the screen is always off. Shoot the Moto360 can get that level of battery life. The real trick is if the device can manage that many hours with the screen on and watch in use.
 

JoEw

macrumors 68000
Nov 29, 2009
1,585
1,291
It's going to be a day max..
I have a strong feeling the watch will monitor what is running based on if it is just sitting on your wrist or being actively used by the wearer. Personally if I got one I would probably keep the screen off until I move my wrist toward me since that will be the only time I am seeing the screen.
 

greytmom

macrumors 68040
Jun 23, 2010
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Have you flown a lot of international flights? I remember when I went to Greece, I counted the hours flying back and it was 23 hours between switching planes and what not. It wasn't too much different when I went to Asia but I never counted it out.

Yep, flew to New Zealand. 24 hour trip, but time in between at airports.
 

OllyW

Moderator
Staff member
Oct 11, 2005
17,196
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The Black Country, England
Nailed it.

As long as the watch lasts roughly the same amount of time as the phone in your pocket, that should be sufficient. If your phone dies the watch is essentially crippled anyway. My guess is that they're looking for 18-24 hours as a starting point for this first gen.

I hope not, I struggle to get 8 or 9 hours out of my iPhone and often get home from work with only a couple of % left. I'd still like the watch on my wrist to tell the time even if my phone is dead.

I'd like the watch to last at least 24 hours on a single charge, though I would prefer more.
 

Patriot24

macrumors 68030
Dec 29, 2010
2,813
805
California
I'd still like the watch on my wrist to tell the time even if my phone is dead.

I'd like the watch to last at least 24 hours on a single charge, though I would prefer more.

I don't disagree. Unfortunately, the realities of technology are going to dictate the capabilities of the product. I have faith that Apple will do their best to engineer the longest battery life possible with the available components. It is what it is.
 

fitshaced

macrumors 68000
Jul 2, 2011
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I don't disagree. Unfortunately, the realities of technology are going to dictate the capabilities of the product. I have faith that Apple will do their best to engineer the longest battery life possible with the available components. It is what it is.

Yeah but this is the problem. Selling a watch that isn't capable of performing at a functional level because of the design they want it to be now will result in this just being another avenue for the whinge brigade. If the watch isn't capable of giving a user a day, it's not ready for launch. People will use this heavily at first as well and so it's probably likely to see it lasting a half a day at first until people establish a regular useage pattern.

Who knows anyway. Maybe this will have a secret ingredient to perform as required. We'll have to wait and see.
 

APlotdevice

macrumors 68040
Sep 3, 2011
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What kind of battery life would be acceptable to you guys?

My Pebble runs all week. I'd accept no less than three full days for its potential replacement.
 

Tar Sniffer

macrumors 6502
Apr 11, 2012
274
3
Since the device is primarily for notifications rather than media or webbrowsing, I would expect the battery to last 18 hours at an absolute minimum. Preferably more since the expensive battery is going to deterioate.

This would fit most people's schedules. Wake up at 6:30am and be asleep by 10pm or midnight on a Friday/Saturday.
 

Piggie

macrumors G3
Feb 23, 2010
9,182
4,112
Since the device is primarily for notifications rather than media or webbrowsing, I would expect the battery to last 18 hours at an absolute minimum. Preferably more since the expensive battery is going to deterioate.

This would fit most people's schedules. Wake up at 6:30am and be asleep by 10pm or midnight on a Friday/Saturday.

So the idea of sleep tracking, which some people do for various, even health reasons, we are totally forgetting about before we even start you feel ?
 

Tar Sniffer

macrumors 6502
Apr 11, 2012
274
3
So the idea of sleep tracking, which some people do for various, even health reasons, we are totally forgetting about before we even start you feel ?

The post-reveal articles have stated that the Apple Watch doesn't have sleep tracking capability, so it's not me dismissing it.
 

Piggie

macrumors G3
Feb 23, 2010
9,182
4,112
The post-reveal articles have stated that the Apple Watch doesn't have sleep tracking capability, so it's not me dismissing it.

But thats only software

You mobile phone does not come with Sleep Tracking built in but you can do it with a phone. even if that may also mean linking with another body sensor.
 

ohbrilliance

macrumors 65816
May 15, 2007
1,011
356
Melbourne, Australia
Boy do some of you have low expectations! At least 24 hours, if not days. I'd be happy with charging overnight, but don't want to worry about it running out sometime in the afternoon or evening with heavy use.
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,234
3,483
Pennsylvania
1 month.

The smartphone with a 1 day battery life replaced the flip phone, which had a roughly 6 day battery life.

The Apple Watch is going to replace a traditional watch, with a 6 month battery (being super conservative here). So it should probably last about 1 month. And I'll be honest, if you have to charge it daily, it's going to be more of a nuisance than anything else.
 

0092762

Cancelled
May 29, 2005
273
316
One week
Taking a watch off your wrist to charge it every night is a huge annoyance compared to charging a phone every night.
Should pack extra batteries into the straps if necessary.
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,234
3,483
Pennsylvania
The battery would need to be about the size of an iPad's. Might be a little bit of a "nuisance" on your wrist.

Oh for sure. But the issue that Apple (and everyone else) is facing is that a watch is an auxiliary item that doesn't do anything we need on a daily basis remotely better than a smartphone. So how do you convince a person to use a device that requires a lot of effort to use, and provides little in return?

The easiest means to fix this problem is to reduce the amount of effort required to use it. That means not having to worry about charging it very much. I firmly believe that the wearable market won't catch on outside of fitness types until battery life is long enough that you don't have to think about charging it on a daily basis - unless Apple can use software to make wearables a "must have" like a cellphone currently is.
 
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