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What should I limit my battery charge level to?
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My guess is that the AlDente folk will have a chat with Apple, and AlDente will either be reinstated or disappear.
Developer just apologized and commented on the discussion over there that he will update his certificate asap.
I can't actually see where he says that on GitHub, but sounds plausible.
If it is a certificate date thing, does that require a new version of the app or is the certificate/date updated behind the scenes?
Two updates:
- My M1 MBA (with AlDente uninstalled) is happily charging past the threshold I had set.
- Developer has posted a new "notarized" update that installs with no problem.
Agreed! I just killed AlDente and got what y'all got trying to re-open it.
Downloaded the new update that was JUST put out. Works
. Very cool.Release AlDente Classic 2.1.2 · AppHouseKitchen/AlDente-Charge-Limiter
Because of an expired signing certificate, macOS shows a security warning for older versions of AlDente. This has been fixed with this new (notarized!) update. Also, this version has been compiled ...
github.com
I was able to reinstall the helper without issue - but it looks like some are still getting the warning with the helper tool (edit: They were on the old helper, new helper installs fine (for me too)).
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Anyone facing the battery percentage not dropping after yesterday’s debacle? I charged mine to 100% yesterday and MacOS still says it's at 100% while in reality - at least according to coconutbattery - the battery charge is down to 97%.
Any ideas how I could fix this? Currently I'm thinking draining it completely probably
Any ideas how I could fix this? Currently I'm thinking draining it completely probably
Thanks for the tip, I've done that now, however MacOS still claims it's charged to 100%, when the MacBook is not even plugged in. This is an M1 MacBook by the way.
You need to use it a bit for the percentage to drop. It can't stay at 100% without being plugged in!
I have been in situation where my machine was 100% and AlDente max was 80%, with charger plugged in and AlDente running.
With Allow Discharge NOT checked it will stay at 100% for a long time as the machine is running direct from the charger and the battery is only decaying by self discharge, not by usage.
With Allow Discharge checked ON the machine will use the battery until the AlDente max is reached, which will be relatively soon depending on usage.
That's exactly it, mine stayed 100% not plugged in for 13 hours. I don't know if you read my messages properly or not, but my MacBook has not been plugged in for more than half a day, yet it hasn't discharged according to MacOS at least. According to CoconutBattery, I used up more than 6% charge.
Coconut shows the "Real Charge Level". Better Battery app has option to show either the Apple Charge level or the Real Charge level and they are a few percent different. AlDente uses the Apple number.
If your machine is not plugged in, the battery will discharge. You could leave some videos playing to speed this up.
If the Apple shown number has got stuck (never heard of this, but can be slow to move off 100%) you could try logging out/in or rebooting.
I'll install this Better Battery app as well in that case to see what's what. The Apple battery charge level is slow to move, that's for sure, however it moved from 100% to 99% when I plugged in my MacBook (while at 93% according to CoconutBattery).
Will keep you posted, I guess I'll have to drain to 0 to recalibrate MacOS after all.
You were correct, the MacOS battery indicator lags behind the real charge by 3-6% in my experience. As it turns out it wasn't a bug at all, it just takes hours to drop 1% from 100% interestingly
Thank you!
Yes It does seem to take longer to move from 100 to 99 than from 99 to 98. Many devices seem like this. It is as if "100%" is really a bit more than 100 which can't be reported because it won't display greater than 100.
Maybe the low power consumption of M1 processor is affecting perception too
One does not need to do this with the latest mac OS and running the latest MacBook pro's as apple battery health features prolong the life of the battery.
Relatively new to AlDente. Once installed, does it automatically update or notify when there's an update, or do you all check the site regularly? Thanks.
Until a finalized version is released, you will need to check the website.
I was just going to bring this fact up. Sounds like the OP is shooting themselves in the foot. Heat is the enemy, and keeping the battery always plugged in will heat it up all the more...
That doesn't make any sense in this case due to the simple fact that once the battery reaches its cut-off point (eg. 50%), it stops charging. It will only do minor amounts of trickle charging to maintain the said charge (which drains very slowly as you are using AC power during that time, and the battery is practically in storage mode), which is negligible in the long run. Most of the cycles will add up during the weekly deeper cycling of the battery, usually done once per week - if the user even wants to do that (I prefer to do it to keep the chemistry moving).
So what exactly makes you think anyone is shooting themselves in the foot? The whole idea of this process is to avoid constantly charging the battery and to avoid constantly keeping it at 100%, or close to that. And that's what the charge limiter achieves.
Bonus results after almost one year:
I started charge limiting around month 3-4, and you can see how the overall amount of cycles per month decreases after that period of time. I had reduced usage of the mac during some of the later months but generally, I average about 5 cycles per month using my method of doing 3-4 deeper cycles every month + charge liming the rest of the time.
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