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Kariya

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2010
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In my opinion, as they went with a full redesign they should be consistent everywhere and get rid of everything that still looks like mavericks.


1. Redesign all app icons for consistency.

2. Redesign hard disk icons, beachball! and the poof remove from dock animation

3. Redesign Dashboard or get rid of it completely.

4. the wifi icon on the menu bar looks way too thin and weird on non retina screens.

5. the folder icons should be repainted with a darker shade of blue, too bright.

6. Make the tool bars translucent on full screen mode.

7. Change the hideous grey background in finder's coverflow or get rid of it. Who uses coverflow anyways? lol

8. Redesign all the icons in system preferences, only some have changed, others still the same as mavericks.

9. Change the icon for mission control completely. That black is awful. what were they thinking?

10. Redesign the lock icon in system preferences panels.

11. Redesign the volume overlay.

12. Make the exit full screen icon blue, it is grey/black now.

13. Use Yosemite screenshots in the mouse/trackpad video examples

I would also change the mail app icon with the eagle but that is just me. I'd prefer a simple letter envelope like in iOS for that one.

Unrealistic

The full URL needs to come back in Safari.

It's just an awful, awful idea. Biggest step back in average user security for a decade.

It didn't go anywhere. Click the URL bar and you get the full thing.
 
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jadot

macrumors 6502a
Apr 6, 2010
533
504
UK
In my opinion, as they went with a full redesign they should be consistent everywhere and get rid of everything that still looks like mavericks.


1. Redesign all app icons for consistency.

2. Redesign hard disk icons, beachball! and the poof remove from dock animation

3. Redesign Dashboard or get rid of it completely.

4. the wifi icon on the menu bar looks way too thin and weird on non retina screens.

5. the folder icons should be repainted with a darker shade of blue, too bright.

6. Make the tool bars translucent on full screen mode.

7. Change the hideous grey background in finder's coverflow or get rid of it. Who uses coverflow anyways? lol

8. Redesign all the icons in system preferences, only some have changed, others still the same as mavericks.

9. Change the icon for mission control completely. That black is awful. what were they thinking?

10. Redesign the lock icon in system preferences panels.

11. Redesign the volume overlay.

12. Make the exit full screen icon blue, it is grey/black now.

13. Use Yosemite screenshots in the mouse/trackpad video examples

I would also change the mail app icon with the eagle but that is just me. I'd prefer a simple letter envelope like in iOS for that one.

um, you're taking it a bit far there. Maybe try a different OS if this stuff blips your radar that easily.
 

dimdom

macrumors member
Sep 29, 2007
51
4
It's not unrealistic at all. I don't want a different OS, Yosemite is a great look. I just want them to finish what they already started.

Most things on my list is just about completing the look everywhere. Do you want an OS that looks like a mavericks and earlier/yosemite hybrid? New and old UI elements living together?

Would you prefer it if iOS 7 still had traces of iOS 6 and earlier in the UI? I definitely wouldn't.

I say if you go new, make everything new. That's all.

Mavericks icons in the preferences panels for example do not fit well visually with the lighter UI they made for Yosemite. They all have that glassy effect, they need to be lighter flatter.

It's the same thing with the iTunes icon on the dock, why are they going to change it? Cause it doesn't fit with all the new ones anymore. I hope they do change everything cause it's not a lot of work left. If they don't, they are just being lazy in my opinion.
 
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jadot

macrumors 6502a
Apr 6, 2010
533
504
UK
It's not unrealistic at all. I don't want a different OS, Yosemite is a great look. I just want them to finish what they already started.

Most things on my list is just about completing the look everywhere. Do you want an OS that looks like a mavericks and earlier/yosemite hybrid? New and old UI elements living together?

Would you prefer it if iOS 7 still had traces of iOS 6 and earlier in the UI? I definitely wouldn't.

I say if you go new, make everything new. That's all.

Mavericks icons in the preferences panels for example do not fit well visually with the lighter UI they made for Yosemite. They all have that glassy effect, they need to be lighter flatter.

It's the same thing with the iTunes icon on the dock, why are they going to change it? Cause it doesn't fit with all the new ones anymore. I hope they do change everything cause it's not a lot of work left. If they don't, they are just being lazy in my opinion.

Sure. Whatever.
I'm only saying WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH?!!

But, yeah, go ahead. Knock yourself out..
 

IshyBishy

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2012
4
0
Looks like it was made ages ago...

I'm having a difficult time looking at the dock and not feeling like it's 2005 again. It REALLY reminds me of Tiger.

Same here. Used Tiger 2-3 years ago as my main OS and a little more recently and really reminds me of Tiger. :)
 

KoolAid-Drink

macrumors 68000
Sep 18, 2013
1,859
947
USA
Unrealistic



It didn't go anywhere. Click the URL bar and you get the full thing.

um, you're taking it a bit far there. Maybe try a different OS if this stuff blips your radar that easily.

I disagree that those listed are unrealistic. I, for one, would hate to have old, Mavericks-era icons littered around the OS. Apple is known for its' consistency, so they should go 100% and not leave little pieces of Mavericks and older around.

It's the same idea as Windows 98/XP/Vista icons still being around in Windows 8.1 - I don't want Apple to do the same thing, as they have always been good about making things consistent across the board.
 

umzyi

macrumors 6502
Apr 21, 2011
264
70
UK
Okay so this is a tinny thing and I guess I could learn to live with it but would be great if it was removed.

Has anyone noticed how the corners of webpages are rounded off in Safari?
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I agree that visually it does look nice to have the bottom of the webpages rounded off when in full screen, but not the top :( Or maybe have the rounding off to show that i'm at the top of the webpage, but once I scroll it disappears? I just don't see why then added it there:confused:

Oh well thats just my $0.02

Well I have a similar concern. The edges in safari window are not streamlined with the rest of the system. See the image below:
 

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SarcasticJoe

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2013
607
221
Finland
- Bring back the "Arrange by"-options that vanished in 10.8 (or at least didn't function unless you knew the keyboard commands)
- Make the regular mode use slightly less bright colors as the choice of colors reminds me of why people hated iOS 7. As it stands now folders almost blend into the white background
- Move the Finder search box back to the upper right corner of the screen with the magnifying glass icon. It's idiotic that when you click something at the corner of the screen you have something else pop up in the middle of the screen.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,723
32,183
Since it's a developer preview I can see where Apple might still be tweaking the UI but how often do they make UI changes during a developer preview based on user suggestions?
 

inket

macrumors regular
Dec 23, 2009
151
102
- Change the folder icons
- Unify the Previous/Next button in Safari & Finder
- New drive icons, please ?
- Remove the menubar effect when changing the active screen. (You know, when all the menubar icons are removed and added back slightly more transparent so they look inactive?) It's so annoying.

The full URL needs to come back in Safari.

It's just an awful, awful idea. Biggest step back in average user security for a decade.
Also, this. Even though I already made a tweak for it here
 

coldjeanzzz

macrumors 6502a
Nov 4, 2012
655
17
If I could have just one thing fixed it would be the font, but this is a pipe dream. Apple isn't going to give any other options so non-retina users are stuck with it. Helvetica Neue simply doesn't look good on non-retina in numerous areas.

I also liked Spotlight being tucked away in the right corner instead of taking up screen space, but of course Apple will never change that.

I'm still conflicted about upgrading when it officially releases. I like certain things but absolutely abhor others. When you have to stare at your computer for multiple hours a day to get work done cosmetic changes can really get on your nerves.
 

grahamperrin

macrumors 601
Jun 8, 2007
4,942
648
You guys should see the WWDC 2014 video, where they explain the UX/UI decisions.

It's called:
Adapting Your App to the New UI of OS X Yosemite

Thanks! https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2014/ for any registered Apple Developer.

I sped through the 288-page PDF. There's the word Consistency, in that presentation, but too little consistency in Apple's delivery. Some things seem far less consistent in Yosemite than in Mavericks. YMMV.

Also, the phrase Content-Focused. A great idea, but I don't buy the idea that Mavericks prevented me from focusing on things. If I want to see less of the interface I simply go full screen, and so on.

I'll try to listen to the video (53 minutes) some time this week. In the meantime there's a transcript:

http://asciiwwdc.com/2014/sessions/209
 

scottrichardson

macrumors 6502a
Jul 10, 2007
714
292
Ulladulla, NSW Australia
In my opinion, as they went with a full redesign they should be consistent everywhere and get rid of everything that still looks like mavericks.


1. Redesign all app icons for consistency.

2. Redesign hard disk icons, beachball! and the poof remove from dock animation

3. Redesign Dashboard or get rid of it completely.

4. the wifi icon on the menu bar looks way too thin and weird on non retina screens.

5. the folder icons should be repainted with a darker shade of blue, too bright.

6. Make the tool bars translucent on full screen mode.

7. Change the hideous grey background in finder's coverflow or get rid of it. Who uses coverflow anyways? lol

8. Redesign all the icons in system preferences, only some have changed, others still the same as mavericks.

9. Change the icon for mission control completely. That black is awful. what were they thinking?

10. Redesign the lock icon in system preferences panels.

11. Redesign the volume overlay.

12. Make the exit full screen icon blue, it is grey/black now.

13. Use Yosemite screenshots in the mouse/trackpad video examples

I would also change the mail app icon with the eagle but that is just me. I'd prefer a simple letter envelope like in iOS for that one.

Completely agree. You basically just listed my wish list too. As it stands, the UI overhaul in Yosemite feels somewhat half baked. Many icons still carry the pre 10.10 design which makes for an inconsistent experience.

One thing I also think needs to be changed is the styling of the title bar buttons/fields for all apps. Such as the URL field in safari having the same visual appearance as a button.
 

LizKat

macrumors 604
Aug 5, 2004
6,770
36,279
Catskill Mountains
I don't think they gonna change that. Dashboard is on its way out, anyways.

Damn. Why not just leave it. I like my Dashboard stuff. Sounds like Apple is doing a twist on AOL News' way of introducing a new comments system back in 2010. The tech media reported then that AOL News posted a heads up for their members: "Valued AOL News members, we have heard your feedback and are shutting off our comments system as we work to improve the system for you." I don't know if it was bogus but it sounded about right, all things AOL (including membership) duly considered.

All well and good for some hokey comments system, big maybe, but not so great for Dashboard. What, now we will have to construct our desired constellation of apps on some launchpad page or something to approximate the Dashboard experience? What was wrong with having them just sit in Dashboard as they do now, ready to slide out and amuse or inform? I like my weather webclip for one thing.

Yeah, I know. The stuff is not being maintained by the developers any more so the widgets are a growing problem, right? Sigh... another thing to get over and move on from. OK, fine. But bring on the replacement stuff and let me stash it like Dashboard does now!
 

umzyi

macrumors 6502
Apr 21, 2011
264
70
UK
I would like to see a new mac mail icon instead of eagle. Other than that I am happy with current blue folder icons. I initially didn't like them but slowly grew on them :)
 

dimdom

macrumors member
Sep 29, 2007
51
4
When I first posted my list some thought that all the changes I listed were unrealistic and that I should look at another OS...

Fast forward some weeks later, Apple has changed almost everything I talked about...

Who's unrealistic now?
 
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