What you don't tell your Windows ® friends...

[generik]

Please don't let your bad experiences with the PowerBook tarnish your opinion of Apple. I agree that the latest PowerBook troubles are not good enough but there are many Apple products that are very well made and quite reliable, such as the iBook.

I'm not, but from time to time when such issues come into the spotlight it does make you wonder.

For instance the other poor guy's PM G5 Quad which came with his harddrive connector snapped, such things really point to very poor QA. They can't even be bothered to power up what they build it seems.

 

[russed]

What I don't tell them:

1) OSX does take a while longer to boot up...

what are you using? a donkey? its quicker for me on a 12" pb than xp!

 

[iPhil]

Just rebooted the xp box in the house and it took 6 mins. to webpage screen .. compared to my Mac less 1 min to webpage ..


iphil

 

[russed]

Just rebooted the xp box in the house and it took 6 mins. to webpage screen .. compared to my Mac less 1 min to webpage ..


iphil

there we go! just what i said!

 

[generik]

Just rebooted the xp box in the house and it took 6 mins. to webpage screen .. compared to my Mac less 1 min to webpage ..


iphil

6 minutes? You must be joking?

By the same token I should add that it takes me 10 minutes to boot up Tiger on.. oh, a 300Mhz iBook with 256mb of ram!

That plain makes zero sense.

 

[jadekitty24]

What I don't tell them:

1) OSX does take a while longer to boot up (I tell them I can wake up instantly!)
2) Apple hardware is quite expensive
3) Apple hardware isn't that good quality
4) As Apple has a monopoly on their hardware I'm stuck paying rip off prices for their shoddy hardware.

Wow...my G3 iBook boots way quicker than my 3 ghz P4 Dell...the Dell takes a good 6 minutes (turn it on, go make a pot off coffee, get some laundry going) where as my iBook takes under 1.

 

[generik]

Wow...my G3 iBook boots way quicker than my 3 ghz P4 Dell...the Dell takes a good 6 minutes (turn it on, go make a pot off coffee, get some laundry going) where as my iBook takes under 1.

I am very interested to see it for myself.

Anyone can make any claim on the Internet, while I am no fan of Windows I find your claims very dubious.

I rarely experience > 40 sec boot times for my XP machines myself, on a Celeron 2.8Ghz no less.

 

[mad jew]

As much as it doesn't matter at all, my 800MHz iBook G4 boots up twice as fast as my 1.8GHz Pentium 4. My 1.8GHz iMac eats them both for breakfast.

 

[jadekitty24]

I am very interested to see it for myself.

Anyone can make any claim on the Internet, while I am no fan of Windows I find your claims very dubious.

I rarely experience > 40 sec boot times for my XP machines myself, on a Celeron 2.8Ghz no less.

Oh, in that case, come right over

 

[russed]

iBook G4...my 1.8GHz iMac eats them both for breakfast.

mmm...its a monster!






ROAR!

 

[jadekitty24]

6 minutes? You must be joking?

By the same token I should add that it takes me 10 minutes to boot up Tiger on.. oh, a 300Mhz iBook with 256mb of ram!

That plain makes zero sense.

Are you seriouse about the 300 mhz booting Tiger taking too long?? Gee, I wonder why...

 

[minimax]

Just rebooted the xp box in the house and it took 6 mins. to webpage screen .. compared to my Mac less 1 min to webpage ..


iphil

Your XP system has issues...
A clean XP install is much much faster at booting then OS X. F.i. my XP 1800+ was able to boot in about 30s. Now it boots in about 40s.

 

[Nermal]

I'm finding that newer apps are getting more and more Windows-like, they love grabbing focus

Even Safari does this - open several sites in tabs, and sometimes Safari will auto-switch to a certain tab when it's finished loading. I haven't been able to figure out a pattern through.

 

[mad jew]

mmm...its a monster!

That it is.

A clean XP install is much much faster at booting then OS X.

Very true. It's why I get a little frustrated when people compare the speed of the two using questionable benchmarks after completely clean installs. One of the worst things about Windows is the slow down as soon as you install anything. You don't even have to necessarily be running it.

Even Safari does this - open several sites in tabs, and sometimes Safari will auto-switch to a certain tab when it's finished loading. I haven't been able to figure out a pattern through.

I think it's just certain websites. I remember Ultimatecarpage.com used to do this but it's since stopped for me. What other apps do the same?

 

[Nermal]

I think it's just certain websites.

A website shouldn't be able to control your OS!

 

[mad jew]

A website shouldn't be able to control your OS!

True. I'd argue it's controlling your browser though, not your OS because it doesn't happen for me if the browser isn't the selected app.

 

[iPhil]

6 minutes? You must be joking?

By the same token I should add that it takes me 10 minutes to boot up Tiger on.. oh, a 300Mhz iBook with 256mb of ram!

That plain makes zero sense.

The 6 Min. boot time on my xp box has been 6 mins since the family bought in Jan. '05 .. i do monthly virus scans on xp box still 6 min boot-time, its NOT my fault that 'xp' takes 6 mins to boot thats M$ft job ( for making a sorry OS) Xp is mostly 'BloatWare' -- IMO ..

thats probably why it takes 6 wtf minutes to boot..


iphil

 

[generik]

The 6 Min. boot time on my xp box has been 6 mins since the family bought in Jan. '05 .. i do monthly virus scans on xp box still 6 min boot-time, its NOT my fault that 'xp' takes 6 mins to boot thats M$ft job ( for making a sorry OS) Xp is mostly 'BloatWare' -- IMO ..

thats probably why it takes 6 wtf minutes to boot..


iphil

My bet is that because it is a Dell...

 

[iPhil]

My bet is that because it is a Dell...

No its Hp/compaq .. but still no OS should take 6 wtf mins to close and reboot ..



iphil


edit: look @ my sig. for the brand of xpbox

 

[After G]

things to complain about ...

- slow ... my iBook will have 18-20 programs running at the same time and switching between them will beachball even after I upgraded to a 7200 rpm drive and 1.25 GB of RAM.
it also beachballs when accessing drives. OS X needs a better response to sleeping hardware.
mplayer will stall on a video, and it looks ugly when it does.
- dim ... the display should be brighter. Guess I'm too used to desktop LCDs.
- hot ... this thing can burn if run with power supply.
- inconsistent ... the window scheme has degraded recently. Metal, Garageband, Aqua, unified toolbar, iTunes look, new Mail, what's next? Please, Apple, get it right in Leopard.
- ugly things ... running on thousands of colors causes artifacts in windowing, TV out is full of ugly screen glitches,
- upgrading is a pain with the all-in-one systems.
took me a while with my iBook, though the eMac was pretty nice. in and out in 30 minutes for a hard drive.

rant done.

 

[Megatron]

I'm finding that newer apps are getting more and more Windows-like, they love grabbing focus

Even Safari does this - open several sites in tabs, and sometimes Safari will auto-switch to a certain tab when it's finished loading. I haven't been able to figure out a pattern through.

Yes, I don't like how Safari will auto-switch focus randomly to a tab that has just finished loading.

I also don't like how Safari won't render the page fully until it has downloaded everything, so sometimes if you start scrolling down a page while it is still downloading, once it finishes, it will reset you at the top of the page.

For these reasons I use Firefox 1.5

 

[MBHockey]

I am a Mechanical Engineering student and it kills me when I say that they don't have SolidWorks for the Mac. That is our bread and butter and all the people in my classes think I am crazy for using Mac because of that. It's the only place I try not to talk about me being a Mac person.

Yeah, ME student here too.

We use Pro/Engineer though -- which also has no Mac version.

 

[Nermal]

sometimes if you start scrolling down a page while it is still downloading, once it finishes, it will reset you at the top of the page.

Oh yes, I get frustrated with that one too.

 

[dmetzcher]

A friend of mine has an engineering degree from Virginia Tech. He was the ONLY person in his field of study with a Mac. He had to run some emulator thingy ma job to use the software.

That's when you get Virtual PC and run Windows on your Mac only when you need that piece of software. Mac can be used for everything else.

 

[dmetzcher]

I never tell Windows users that I have to unmount/eject external storage devises before disconnecting them. Sometimes I forget to do this and just pull the plug and get that error message telling me that bad things might happen.

Windows users have to do that too, or they get a similar message. You have nothing to be ashamed of there. In fact, unmounting them is easier on the Mac, IMO that on the PC.