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lindsayanng

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i just downloaded 1Password and i am really no all that happy with it.. It is AWFUL putting the accounts into it. Every time i click ADD ACCOUNT a default of http://www.google.com/accounts comes up and then i have to delete ALL those letters and put in the actual url.. then i go to add the username and the SAME THING.. the word MYUSERNAME is in there and i have to delete it.

Anyways, 1password is well "not so much"

I will probably be downloading SplashID since the top runners were
1password (bad user interface, no main categories)
iSecrete (no encrytion)

ok.. right now i am torn between MY EYES ONLY and eWallet.. those both LOOK nice, SAY that have simple quick info input, and they are around the same price. and good encryption
 

ntrigue

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I also support 1Password. It's desktop integration works terrific and it has a native browser that operates in the app itself. The interface on both Mac and iPhone is clean and fluid.
 

Roller

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Does 1Password work the same on the iPhone as it does in the desktop environment?

The iPhone app offers a subset of the desktop app's functionality in all but one area: you can say whether items in the database require the full password to view them or whether they are viewable by entering the 4 digit code that you enter when you run 1Password on the iPhone.

1Password's approach to Web logins doesn't always work. Since there's apparently no way to transfer login data from the app to Mobile Safari, 1Password has a built-in "browser" that's based on WebKit. That way, it can enter login names and passwords directly. However, it doesn't work with many sites that I've tried. To be fair, though, I don't know of any iPhone app that's solved this problem.

As I said, I bought 1Password mostly because the desktop app and browser integration are so good. I'm hoping that the iPhone app will improve over time - for now, it lets me carry my data securely with up to two layers of protection.
 

sushi

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ok.. right now i am torn between MY EYES ONLY and eWallet.. those both LOOK nice, SAY that have simple quick info input, and they are around the same price. and good encryption
You seem to be jumping from application to application.

Suggestion. Write down your required criteria. See which apps meet that criteria. Then for the ones that meet your criteria, select the best one using some methodology that you decided before hand such as a simple decision matrix.

The iPhone app offers a subset of the desktop app's functionality <snip>
Thanks for the rundown. :)
 

lindsayanng

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i was jumping from app to app, but the thing is there are soo many password apps and i cant see them all in one place. It would be easier to type in PASSWORD and show ALL the password apps.

But i went through ALL of them, and i kept finding different ones that do the same thing..

so here is the deal. I like eWallet. It has a REALLY nice user interface with a LOT of options to add details AND great templates for easy to enter details. It looks nice, which is a plus - but not NESSECARY. And it is encrypted with EXTRA security passwords.

I have entered half of my info and passwords and am VERY VERY happy so far
 

jeniferkey

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I'm using Firebox right now. Only one level of password protection, but I have my phone locked at the turn on level, too. I used to keep this stuff in notes, so it's not that critical to me.
It's simple and easy to enter data. No syncing, but it sounds like they're thinking about it. I didn't like the one that someone mentioned pulled up its own web browser. I'd rather it opened safari and I enter the password than using their browser.
I do worry that when this has an update I'll lose my data. That's the one thing keeping me from entering more info.
 

lindsayanng

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Just a little update.. I have been using eWallet for two days now and ALMOST have all my data in there. I am VERY VERY happy with this one. I can add additional passwords at ANY level i want, so i CAN have as many passwords to keep people out.

I am just realizing how BADLY i needed this app because i had to keep visiting my online accounts and hitting FORGOT PASSWORD!!!

So this is a REALLY good thing. And i can also have all my checking info, like routing numbers so that if i need to pay by telephone check, i dont need to have my checkbook with me all the time.

Again, VERY VERY happy with my decision - so far.

the ONLYt hing is the backup on the cpu
 

GfPQqmcRKUvP

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the ONLYt hing is the backup on the cpu

Which, as previously stated, is why people were recommending 1Password and SplashID. You will find out, sooner or later, that desktop backup is the number 1 most important feature of wallet applications for mobile devices.
 

lindsayanng

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i think what you need to realize is that NOT ALL PEOPLE NEED THE BACKUP!! I dont keep ANY info on my cpu. I hardly sync my iphone ot my cpu. I have on it what i need and thats all..

What you need to realize is the usability for 1password makes it a PAIN IN THE BUTT and almost unusable FOR ME. Everyone has their opinions about what works for them.. theres no one thats BETTER than all the other ones for everyone.. For me, ewallet is VERY VERY easy to use, fun to set up, VERY VERY secure, and well,. just nice to use in all.. WHy would i use 1password where it look me 1 hour to install most of my passwords, when i can install AND customize my passwords and accounts in HALF the time with ewallet?
 

GfPQqmcRKUvP

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i think what you need to realize is that NOT ALL PEOPLE NEED THE BACKUP!!

This is exactly the reason that everyone needs the back up. And the capital letters don't mean anything, stop yelling at me.

I dont keep ANY info on my cpu. I hardly sync my iphone ot my cpu. I have on it what i need and thats all..

And what happens when that gets deleted?

Everyone has their opinions about what works for them.. theres no one thats BETTER than all the other ones for everyone..

This is where you're wrong. It might be someone's opinion that Elvis is an alien from the planet Uranus, but it's my opinion that he's not. My opinion is better than that person's. And I wasn't trying to be mean with mine, I simply stated that I think you're underestimating the importance of a backup.
 

sushi

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Just a little update.. I have been using eWallet for two days now and ALMOST have all my data in there. I am VERY VERY happy with this one. I can add additional passwords at ANY level i want, so i CAN have as many passwords to keep people out.
Glad to hear that you have found one that works for you.

the ONLYt hing is the backup on the cpu
One rule of thumb, is that you need to back up your data regardless of the device.

So this could end up being a huge issue in the future.

Which, as previously stated, is why people were recommending 1Password and SplashID. You will find out, sooner or later, that desktop backup is the number 1 most important feature of wallet applications for mobile devices.
Agree.

i think what you need to realize is that NOT ALL PEOPLE NEED THE BACKUP!! I dont keep ANY info on my cpu. I hardly sync my iphone ot my cpu. I have on it what i need and thats all..
Unfortunately, whether you say this with conviction or not, there may come the time that you meed to have a backup of your data.

For example, your iPhone/Touch gets stolen, or dropped in a place were you can not retrieve it. You would loose all the information on your iPhone/Touch.

Now I know, you say that you record everything in another place. However, experience has shown me that individuals who use a handheld type device (including Smart phones) to record this type of information will record it directly to their handheld device, and then later when they get around to it, record the data in their backup place. However, the recording of that info to their backup place doesn't happen. This results in an unbalance of data between the handheld device and your backup.

This is usually discovered after the handheld device is lost. Which unfortunately, is too late.

This is exactly the reason that everyone needs the back up. And the capital letters don't mean anything, stop yelling at me.
Agree on both counts.
 

Roller

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i think what you need to realize is that NOT ALL PEOPLE NEED THE BACKUP!! I dont keep ANY info on my cpu. I hardly sync my iphone ot my cpu. I have on it what i need and thats all.

I guess it comes down to how much your time is worth to you. If my iPhone were to slip into the toilet, die, or undergo some other mishap, it'd take me a few days to reconstruct everything I have in 1Password. Plus, since many of my Web accounts are created on my computer, it's easy to transfer them to my iPhone.
 

Knowlege Bomb

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i think what you need to realize is that NOT ALL PEOPLE NEED THE BACKUP!! I dont keep ANY info on my cpu. I hardly sync my iphone ot my cpu. I have on it what i need and thats all..

What you need to realize is the usability for 1password makes it a PAIN IN THE BUTT and almost unusable FOR ME. Everyone has their opinions about what works for them.. theres no one thats BETTER than all the other ones for everyone.. For me, ewallet is VERY VERY easy to use, fun to set up, VERY VERY secure, and well,. just nice to use in all.. WHy would i use 1password where it look me 1 hour to install most of my passwords, when i can install AND customize my passwords and accounts in HALF the time with ewallet?

Boy are you gonna be hating life when something happens to that app and you lose all that data with no backup.

Why so close minded? You think people here have no experience and are attacking your decisions and beliefs for fun? Get real.
 

lindsayanng

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talk about get real. Dont be so pissy about something that really has nothing to do with yourself. I wont hate myself if something happened to my phone because i have everything written down.. thats my backup. The good old fashioned way. Maybe not every needs a data synced electronic back up.

Whenever i create a new account, it goes DIRECTLY into my little black book, which i h ave had for years. so why, all of a sudden, would this NOT work for me just becuase i have a handheld device that also stores them.

You act like the ONLY place to retrieve passwords from is your iphone, and if you loose the data its gone for good. Its not like its data that ONLY exists in my head OR where i write it down..all companies i do business with have my account data as well.. so again, theres no imminent need for a backup. its just for convenience, and since to me, it is MORE important to have ease of input and ease of use than convinience of restoring a backup.

So again, i'm not saying elvis is an alien from another planet, and if you think that about my opinion on an IPHONE APPLICATION, then you need to get real, because it is JUST my opinion.. and electronic backup is NOT that important to me..
 

Dipdip

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So again, i'm not saying elvis is an alien from another planet, and if you think that about my opinion on an IPHONE APPLICATION, then you need to get real, because it is JUST my opinion.. and electronic backup is NOT that important to me..

You need to CHILL OUT.
 

sushi

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Whenever i create a new account, it goes DIRECTLY into my little black book, which i h ave had for years. so why, all of a sudden, would this NOT work for me just becuase i have a handheld device that also stores them.
That's good.

Please see my post above about what I've observed over time. If you have the self dissapline to enter everything in your Little Black Book (LBB), then good for you.

Another reason that desktop syncing is so nice, is that it is usually much faster and easier to enter your data on the desktop, and then sync with the iPhone/Touch. Many times you can just copy and paste the data used with the desktop app.

Anyhow, some folks here are trying to help you make a good decision. We all have different opinions -- most of which come from experience -- in my case 30 plus years -- that we would like to pass on. Please take our advice, weigh it, then choose what works well for you.

Once you decide, which maybe you have with eWallet, please tell us why you like what you choose because your feedback might help us as well. :)
 

jeniferkey

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It's my understanding that as long as I do my iphone backups, that the data is being saved to my local computer. Not in the easy way that I can access it like with the programs you mention, but if my phone were lost, etc, I could buy a new phone and do a restore from my backup and it would put the data back on there.
I do want syncing to a program on my personal computer, but I don't like the ones that are out, and having the info only available on my phone works fine for me now.
 

lindsayanng

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thanks sushi, i didnt mean to direct my frustration at you, but i just HATE when people TELL ME what i should and shouldnt do. I clearly states that desktop syncing, although it would be nice, is not a nessecity for me - and instead of accepting that, SOME of the people here attacked me trying to say i was either stupid or nieve for not wanting it.. well, i am neither.. there ARE more important things to me other than that.. like ease of use.

Anyways, i have been using the eWallet app for a few days now, and still havent gotten everything into it yet because i keep on comming up with new things to put into it!

I run multiple websites, so i have multiple FTP logins, mysql database logins, ect and this application actually has some pretty good pre-made templates for that.

The one thing that DROVE ME NUTS about 1Password was that it was basically made for passwords, and passwords only. If you wanted to inut any other type of data, you had to spend a lot of time reconfiguring the forums so that you had text, dates, ect..

The other thing that is GREAT about eWallet is even if you DO have to reconfigure a form, they have it laid out in such a way that there are a BUNCH of options without entering the entire text yourself. They have the option to make the new form a clickable link, a dial-able phone number, a date with the date wheel, hideden text, ect. It IS really nice and easy to use, and that is why i am STILL very happy with it.

Again, the multple level of passwords is ANOTHER thing that makes it stand out from the 1Passwords, one password.. so maybe i dont need a TON of layers of passwords on my insurance card information, but i DEFINITELY want an extra layer of passwords for my credit card info or my website ftp info.
 

Rigby

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Note that eWallet will offer the possiblity to sync to the Windows desktop version (which also runs under MacOS X using WINE) in a few weeks. They are also working on a native MacOS version. Check their blog for more information:
http://blog.iliumsoft.com/

Personally, I will buy the iPhone version as soon as syncing works, since I have used eWallet on PalmOS and Windows Mobile devices for a long time and have accumulated quiete a large wallet that I don't feel like retyping in some other program.
 

Silencio

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I'm using Passwall; I really like it. It doesn't autofill or anything, but works perfectly for storing the passwords on my iPhone. It's not an App Store app, per se, but it's great.

http://www.selznick.com/products/passwordwallet/index.htm

You mean Password Wallet. It was definitely a bit of creative thinking in that it stores your passwords as an encrypted bookmark in Safari and syncs up with your desktop copy of Password Wallet to manage everything. Pretty slick, and was really the only game in town if you didn't want to jailbreak your iPhone.

One nice side effect of them doing it through a bookmark is that the encrypted bookmark is available on both my desktop and laptop's copies of Safari and kept in sync through MobileMe.

Going back to my Palm days, I used to bounce back and forth between Splash ID and Password Wallet. I'd say Splash ID has the superior desktop application as it seems better set up to store more versatile types of data besides plain old passwords, but I'm going to wait for them to fix some of the glitches in their iPhone app -- and Selznick is working on a native iPhone app version of Password Wallet, as well.
 
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