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lindsayanng

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and again.. WHY i didnt choose a program on ONLY syn-ability. People here serious chastised me because syncing wasnt on the top of my list.. well, it wasnt, and i picked the app that REALLY worked the way i liked it, and LOOKY HERE.. they are making a program to SYNC!

really, 1Password made me want to throw my phone, and i NEVER wanted to throw my phone.. not this one
 

Roller

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and again.. WHY i didnt choose a program on ONLY syn-ability. People here serious chastised me because syncing wasnt on the top of my list.. well, it wasnt, and i picked the app that REALLY worked the way i liked it, and LOOKY HERE.. they are making a program to SYNC!

really, 1Password made me want to throw my phone, and i NEVER wanted to throw my phone.. not this one

Glad you like eWallet - I think that it's very well executed on the iPhone, and I would've bought it had there also been a desktop version. For me, syncing with the desktop is a must-have because I like having the extra backup and I hate entering data on the iPhone (or at least I prefer typing on a real keyboard).

Anyway, competition is good...
 

GfPQqmcRKUvP

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and again.. WHY i didnt choose a program on ONLY syn-ability. People here serious chastised me because syncing wasnt on the top of my list..

And rightly so. You haven't yet had all your data wiped out. Your little black book is subject to being stolen, misplaced, or damaged in a physical way.
 

lindsayanng

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you can bring up any possible scenario to make it sound like my system won't work. Yea my black book CAN get stolen - is it likely? No! Because it never leaves my desk. You computer and phone could simultaniously blow up and erase all you data at the same time - then what? With synchrd stuff that is ok your desktop, you could loose everything if you have your phone connected to your cpu and get a power surge. Now you are just reaching.

You're not bringing anything to this thread other than arguing the same points about syncing. So unless you have something useful to say. Please stop posting.
 

bodhammer

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Glad you like eWallet - I think that it's very well executed on the iPhone, and I would've bought it had there also been a desktop version. For me, syncing with the desktop is a must-have because I like having the extra backup and I hate entering data on the iPhone (or at least I prefer typing on a real keyboard).

Anyway, competition is good...

I'm leaning towards eWallet as well but I need the Windows version also that syncs (home and work). It wold be nice if they had a bundle price on things. I have an iPod Touch, I have home and work Windows machines and I also have a thumb (U3) device. I wish they would make there pricing per "database", not per platform. I only have one set of passwords, I just have multiple ways of accessing them. I'm willing to pay - once.
 

hnn

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eWallet for PC free!

I'm leaning towards eWallet as well but I need the Windows version also that syncs (home and work). It wold be nice if they had a bundle price on things. I have an iPod Touch, I have home and work Windows machines and I also have a thumb (U3) device. I wish they would make there pricing per "database", not per platform. I only have one set of passwords, I just have multiple ways of accessing them. I'm willing to pay - once.

You can get eWallet for PC free if you buy the eWallet at AppStore! See this blogpost:

http://blog.iliumsoft.com/?p=421
 

mark34

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very happy with SplashID on both the desktop and the iPhone. Syncs perfectly and super easy to customize fields.
 

GfPQqmcRKUvP

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you can bring up any possible scenario to make it sound like my system won't work Yea my black book CAN get stolen - is it likely? No! Because it never leaves my desk.

You leave all your passwords in a book on your desk?!

You computer and phone could simultaniously blow up and erase all you data at the same time - then what?

Then I'd have lost everything. The more backups (that are secure) the better.

With synchrd stuff that is ok your desktop, you could loose everything if you have your phone connected to your cpu and get a power surge. Now you are just reaching.

Surge protector. Now you are.

You're not bringing anything to this thread other than arguing the same points about syncing. So unless you have something useful to say. Please stop posting.

I know I'm not going to convince you about the virtues of keeping virtual backups. I'm typing in this thread how important backing up is so maybe someone else who's following along or even reads this in the future knows. It's funny how you're the one resorting to childish tactics and using all caps in response to me and another member of this board just letting you know that we thought you were underestimating the importance of automatic backups. You have a good chance of learning about this someday, just cross your fingers and hope for the best. That seems to be the only safeguard you plan on using on your data. I hope others don't make the same mistake.
 

sushi

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thanks sushi, i didnt mean to direct my frustration at you, but i just HATE when people TELL ME what i should and shouldnt do.
Try to give the established MR folks the benefit of the doubt. Most mean well when they provide advice -- even if you don't agree with it and they miss some of your points. After all, they are providing support on a voluntary basis and usually mean the best.

Understand and thanks for the feedback on eWallet for the iPhone.

Agree with you about 1password. Personally, I want all my info and not just a password. That way everything is in one place which is convenient for me.

Currently giving SplashID a try. It sounds similar to eWallet. I'll have to check out the multiple password levels. I do like the customizability of SplashID.

Regarding your little black book. Just be sure that you do write everything down as it is so easy to forget. And then make a copy of the book and put in a safety deposit box. Ya never know when a burglar might come and visit your place and take your little black book. :)

Personally, I now like to keep things on different backup sources such as in the Cloud. I've had mobile devices backed up to computers when both have failed. That's why I like three different backup places.

BTW, have you met Mr. Murphy? He and I are very close. Have something you want to try to see if it will fail? Give it to me, and it will fail! ;)
 

lindsayanng

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heres the deal. The passwords and info will NEVER be lost forever. Its not like with creative content where if its in your head or on paper, those are the ONLY places they can belong. I have my blackbook in my flood safe/fire safe box that i keep at my desk. I'm not kidding. I bought that thing for the deed to my house, my marriage certificate, and photos that i never want to loose. It is safe up to an insane amount of heat, and you can toss it into the ocean and retreive your stuff perfectly safe. So i'm not all that worried about soemone stealing it. I also keep a stack of checks in there and some cash. Again, not too worried about it getting lost.

Also, the backups for ALL of my iphone stuff is on my laptop which is only plugged in while i am using it as to not over heat the battery. Power surges are the ONLY possibility that everything could get whiped out, but at the first sign of lightening, all electronics that hold data are unplugged. It happened just last night, we lost power becuase of an electrical storm - our cpu's are FINE.

And again, if i DONT write everything down and miss something and SOMEHOW my iphone gets dropped in the toilet at the same time i have a power surge while i am surfing the net on my laptop from the toilet and a cat burglar comes in to steal my safe that is bolted to the floor.. ALL I HAVE TO DO IS CALL THE PROVIDER AND GET THE INFO BACK.

like i said, i did some writing in college, and ENTIRELY believe in backing up stuff like that as many times as you can. I have used carbonite for stuff like that.. but silly things like passwordsa nd usernames, and account numbers are NEVER lost for good if they do get destroyed on your device.

I have forgotten my ebay username and password A THOUSAND times, all i do is click FORGOT USERNAME>

I did survive WITHOUT this app for a long time.. So like i said, i DONT need backup - i would sacrafice backup for useablity any time.. and really, 1password did NOT have a good UI.
 

TreoRenegade

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Aug 7, 2008
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Years ago, on the Palm and later Treo, I used SplashID, but ultimately switched to eWallet. I preferred the interface of eWallet, especially on the desktop-- and most importantly, the sync just worked, without hassle, each and every time. When SplashID showed up in the App Store, I first ran to grab the desktop from their site. 15 minutes later, I returned to the app store, but purchased eWallet instead. I have since received an email from Ilium, directing me to a page at their site to grab the desktop (free to prior users). It's version 6, but the next 6.x version will be the one with iphone-friendly goodness. The current version is enough to bring in all my stuff now, so I'll be ready when the iphone sync appears. Looks like they're adding some sort of wizard to preclude problems for those who've not used ewallet before, and it should be ready within a month or so. I've learned thru the years that I can trust Ilium, so I'm confident it will be worth the wait.

Meanwhile, I no longer have to be concerned with a syncing notes app, as I just use eWallet's "Note" card. This is the one app that doesn't crash, so I'm a happy camper.

Suggestion: if you've not yet made up your mind, grab the trial version of each one's desktop app. That's where you'll be spending most of your time initially, inserting what you have scattered around now. Check out the import feature for each, which may save you some keystrokes. My hunch is that your desktop experience will dictate your iphone app choice between these two. Go with what works *for YOU*.
 

lindsayanng

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thanks for that Treo, I'm glad to hear that others are as comfortable with this app as i am. Their interface is just UNBEATABLE! Really amazing and i LOVE that you can add any kind of field you want which could be an interactive field (like phone numbers that dial on touch and websites that actually like) 1password didnt have ANY of that customization.. and to find out that there WILL be an option to sync just makes it that much better.

I'm not saying Splash is not good, i havent tried it. But i dont need to now because i am MORE than happy with my eWallet. My husband started using it last night too, and he is syched about it as well.
 

DenNukem

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Jul 12, 2008
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Memengo Wallet

May I humbly suggest Memengo Wallet? It's the app we wrote just for the folks like you. It's currently free (from this Wednesday till Monday) so if you want to try it out, make sure you catch the free ride.

With our app you can access your passwords data from anywhere - from your own iPhone but also from any computer with a web browser, and it's all in sync and all encrypted by your "master key".

The access from web browser must be enabled from the iPhone first. If you do so, then the data will sync to our server and web access will be enabled. We don't have a desktop app, we figured web access is better (more universal).

EDIT: the online sync part is optional and is not active until you enable it. Without it, Memengo Wallet is just another password manager.

Here we are on the iTunes store.

Be sure to leave feedback in the app store or on our web site! If not for our sake than for the sake of other iPhone users so that they can make better choices.
 

lindsayanng

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honestly, since i DO NOT have a 3G, and i'm not always on wifi, i would rather have an app that is local, this way it pulls up the info quicker. This way it is there RIGHT when i need it. No waiting for it to load, like my pageonce account.. It might be PERFECT for people with 3G, but not for me.. not now./ thanks for offering though.. although a free trial doesnt hurt :)
 

blueprint1983

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May I humbly suggest Memengo Wallet? It's the app we wrote just for the folks like you. It's currently free (from this Wednesday till Monday) so if you want to try it out, make sure you catch the free ride.

With our app you can access your passwords data from anywhere - from your own iPhone but also any from computer with a web browser, and it's all in sync and all encrypted by your "master key".

The access from web browser must be enabled from the iPhone first. If you do so, then the data will sync to our server and web access will be enabled. We don't have a desktop app, we figured web access is better (more universal).

Here we are on the iTunes store.

Be sure to leave feedback in the app store or on our web site! If not for our sake than for the sake of other iPhone users so that they can make better choices.

But we don't have to do the web option if we don't want to right? We can just have it store the info on the phone and not on-line. right?
 

DenNukem

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But we don't have to do the web option if we don't want to right? We can just have it store the info on the phone and not on-line. right?

Yes, web connection is entirely optional. If you don't elect to use it, then it's just a phone-local password manager. You can still use iTunes to backup your stuff.

I will edit my original message to make it more clear. :D
 

DenNukem

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Jul 12, 2008
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OHHH!! I thought it was like a web app with some local functions.> sorry for misinterpreting.

When designing the app I though about people who don't have online access or won't use it for some other reason. It's a full-featured password manager for iPhone for them.
I also thought about people who only want online access and nothing on the iPhone. They get real online password manager in a web browser - no software to install.
Then I thought about people who want both - iPhone and web to stay in sync. :D
And finally, I thought about people who can connect iPhone to internet only rarely. That works, too - you can synchronize once and go on for weeks without any network access on the phone. Once you reconnect all changes are synchronized again.

You see, I'm trying to be a thoughtful person here! :)
 

blueprint1983

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When designing the app I though about people who don't have online access or won't use it for some other reason. It's a full-featured password manager for iPhone for them.
I also thought about people who only want online access and nothing on the iPhone. They get real online password manager in a web browser - no software to install.
Then I thought about people who want both - iPhone and web to stay in sync. :D
And finally, I thought about people who can connect iPhone to internet only rarely. That works, too - you can synchronize once and go on for weeks without any network access on the phone. Once you reconnect all changes are synchronized again.

You see, I'm trying to be a thoughtful person here! :)

I think it's a great idea personally.

BUT

And this is constructive criticism, people are, in general, sensitive to posting any of that stuff on-line. Even e-mail doesn't store that sensitive info usually.

I'm so glad you gave us that option.. I'd probably pay for that app with that info.
 

TreoRenegade

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I think it's fantastic that, in this one area at least, there are multiple genuinely worthy contenders. As a purely personal matter, there's no way in blahloogie I'd evah! permit sensitive passwordS info to live on someone else's server. But others will feel differently, so they have a web-based option to handle their needs/ desires. Just the sort of varying options I anticipated when the App Store materialized.

Now, if I could just clone these password-oriented developers and get 'em to point their prowess to the field of business miles tracking, and gas mileage tracking. (Yes, I'm aware of the options currently available. Bought just about all of 'em to do a thorough comparison. Don't wanna hijack this thread, nor start cussing a blue streak. So let's just say I'm still looking... and BEGGING for someone NEW and SKILLED to enter this particular arena!)
 

lindsayanng

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just out of curiousity... what kinda of information would NOT be recoverable??

I dont mean to sound snotty or snide, i just can not think of ONE instance other than intellectual property that does not exist in someone else's database (usually the provider or IT dept. of a business)
 

sushi

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just out of curiousity... what kinda of information would NOT be recoverable??

I dont mean to sound snotty or snide, i just can not think of ONE instance other than intellectual property that does not exist in someone else's database (usually the provider or IT dept. of a business)
If you have a completely encrypted account, without recovery info. :)

So if you forget your ID or pw, you are hosed. There are no back doors in these types of environments.
 
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