Whats a good Passwords app??

[Roller]

just out of curiousity... what kinda of information would NOT be recoverable??

I dont mean to sound snotty or snide, i just can not think of ONE instance other than intellectual property that does not exist in someone else's database (usually the provider or IT dept. of a business)

You're right in saying that the vast majority of data that you'd store in a program like eWallet or !Password would be available somewhere. But reconstructing and re-entering that data could take a very long time. In my case, I have many items that require more than submission of an e-mail address to recover. And even if I had my data in written form, entering it all (including URLS, user names, passwords, and so on) on the iPhone would be maddening.

I realize that eWallet and other apps that don't have desktop versions back up their data when you sync the iPhone through iTunes, but I also like the convenience of entering data on the desktop. But that's just me....

 

[mappyman]

When designing the app I though about people who don't have online access or won't use it for some other reason. It's a full-featured password manager for iPhone for them.
I also thought about people who only want online access and nothing on the iPhone. They get real online password manager in a web browser - no software to install.
Then I thought about people who want both - iPhone and web to stay in sync.
And finally, I thought about people who can connect iPhone to internet only rarely. That works, too - you can synchronize once and go on for weeks without any network access on the phone. Once you reconnect all changes are synchronized again.

You see, I'm trying to be a thoughtful person here!

Why have you made it so it can only be downloaded from iTunes USA?

 

[sushi]

You're right in saying that the vast majority of data that you'd store in a program like eWallet or !Password would be available somewhere. But reconstructing and re-entering that data could take a very long time. In my case, I have many items that require more than submission of an e-mail address to recover. And even if I had my data in written form, entering it all (including URLS, user names, passwords, and so on) on the iPhone would be maddening.

I have a bunch of these type accounts as well.

Some require sending a letter with certain personal information. So besides the time lag, you now have to share more info with the site.

I also like the convenience of entering data on the desktop. But that's just me....

I'm with you here.

I am so much faster entering data on my computer than the Touch/iPhone.

For me, the computer is the primary device for data entry. That is why syncing is very important to me.

 

[Next Tuesday]

I have a bunch of these type accounts as well.

Some require sending a letter with certain personal information. So besides the time lag, you now have to share more info with the site.


I'm with you here.

I am so much faster entering data on my computer than the Touch/iPhone.

For me, the computer is the primary device for data entry. That is why syncing is very important to me.

I like Memengo. Its a great app.

 

[lindsayanng]

see, for me. I NEVER rememer to enter data on my cpu. I had a entire personal budget system on my cpu that i NEVER used because i never remembered to do it. Usually because the system was on my home cpu, and i use my laptop or work cpu most often.. so when i do make a new account, i ALWAYS put it in my black book (that is either on my person or on my safe) or i would like to put it into my phone. Now i use BUDGET a thousand times a day.

so yea, re-entering COULD be a hassle, but that would only happen if the itunes backup was ruined.. so for me, a desktop app would be useless.. but again thats just me. I was just SOOO annoyed with the fact that people were TELLING me what would be easier for me!~

 

[DenNukem]

I think it's a great idea personally.

BUT

And this is constructive criticism, people are, in general, sensitive to posting any of that stuff on-line. Even e-mail doesn't store that sensitive info usually.

I'm so glad you gave us that option.. I'd probably pay for that app with that info.

The way I see it, some people will be hestiant and some won't. Even a fraction of a lot of people is still a lot of people. Hopefully enough to finance further development once the price goes back up.

 

[DenNukem]

Why have you made it so it can only be downloaded from iTunes USA?

Sorry, that wasn't my choice. US government puts limits on distributing strong crypto outside USA and there is quite a bit of paperwork to fill out in order to overcome those limits. I'm working on it, although it take cycles away from improving the application itself.

 

[mappyman]

Sorry, that wasn't my choice. US government puts limits on distributing strong crypto outside USA and there is quite a bit of paperwork to fill out in order to overcome those limits. I'm working on it, although it take cycles away from improving the application itself.

I thought they stopped those restrictions in 1996.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography

Anyway good luck with that.

 

[DenNukem]

Again, the multple level of passwords is ANOTHER thing that makes it stand out from the 1Passwords, one password.. so maybe i dont need a TON of layers of passwords on my insurance card information, but i DEFINITELY want an extra layer of passwords for my credit card info or my website ftp info.

This is exact same need I had in mind. They way I addressed it in my application Memengo Wallet is by providing multiple "wallets". Each wallet has it's own encryption key, so i'm using a very simple key for crazy startup ideas (which no one really needs, but I still don't want friends to see it) and a much more complex one for my credit cards. Then I also have a "wallet" without any encryption - it stores the bookmarks I made on desktop for later reading on the iphone (no need to protect that). Switching between wallets is like switching between accounts in the Mail App.

I realize you've setteld with eWallet already (a very respectable competitor of ours), just letting others know about it.

 

[lindsayanng]

that is DEFINITELY a good option to have - and to me nessecary.

I have a similar setup on my phone where i have a non secure "wallet" with silly things i want to remember, like websites urls, ect.. and then the credit cards, insurance cards, ect.

I dont have any real reason WHY i chose ewallet over yours honestly. It may be a silly idea, but i was ALL OVER the place with choosing a password app (read the whole thread and you will see)

When i settled on my top few, yours was not ther ebecause i was under the impression that the app was strictly web based - maybe i am dense, but i read teh description, and thats what i thought. I might stress that the internet option is just an OPTION and it does not directly connect to the net to get your passwords and such..

ALso, i dont know if you app does this or not, i cant remember, but i REALLY just liked the fact that i can completely customize the look of ALL of the cards. I know its REALLY silly, but i like it - it makes entering the data a LOT more fun.

 

[beate]

1 vote for 1Password

This thread has gone beyond answering the OPs question and has become a discussion of what works and why...

I used SplashID for years. Originally buying it for the Palm, then using it on my desktop long after the Palm succumbed. I loved having everything in one place - Serials, IDs, Credit Cards, Log-Ins, etc.

About a year ago I became concerned about phishing and key-logging threats. I deal with a lot of financial institutions.
Beyond that I was sick of entering login info and passwords. And having a browser save them for you is just asking for trouble...

Enter 1Password. Yes! Yes! Yes! Absolutely love this program. I never type anything to log on/in anywhere.

I've been syncing with the phone since getting the desktop program. Originally it used a Safari bookmark for storing the data.

The iPhone App version looks much nicer and is easier to browse (I have over 400 entries).
The program does have 2 level password protection (OP complained about only 1 level).

From some complaints, I gather the iPhone App only version is a pain to use. Personally, I wouldn't bother using any program that didn't have a desktop version for entry. (Yeah, and I need my 400 entries on the phone - you never know what you're going to need...)

Though there are some issues to work out, the App can auto-fill info in a Browser on the phone also (as others have noted). I would think it's even more important to not be typing in passwords on a phone than on a desktop.

 

[sushi]

I like Memengo. Its a great app.

Thanks. I will give it a look.

 

[Advance The Man]

Is it just me or are there a ton of posts for 1password? Seems strange the constant drumbeat of how great it is. I tried it, and besides the fact it was difficult to figure out, I didn't like what it is used for. I don't need a program to fill in my username and password, I need a secure place to put credit card numbers, account numbers, etc. Considered Memingo (not enough feedback yet), splash and ewallet. Just chose ewallet and it is great. I would think splash would of been fine too. But to all, 1password is not a wallet, it is a browser that fills in your username and password.

 

[petvas]

I find 1Password for my Macs amazing and I don't think I could do without it! I didn't know about the program till I saw a post here about a month ago. I went and tried the application and after a while I was convinced and bought it. 1Password is great for my Macs because:

• It manages Web Site Logins by integrating with most major browsers
• Entering Usernames and filling forms is easier than ever. The built in Password Generator is great.
• It lets me store other information too (Credit cards, bank accounts, etc). I have to admit though, this is an area it has to improve in the future but the developers know it. Just check their forums (very friendly and kind)
• It syncs seamlessly between my two Macs by using MobileMe

Now, having 1Password for my iPhone is of course great. The iPhone application is still a work in progress and has still many limitations. What I can do now with my 1Password Touch:

• Sync with my Desktop (Mac only). This is really great! I don't have to rely on the clumsy iTunes backup that doesn't give me any options for restoration (iTunes handles it...)
• I have all my Wallet infos with me. Editing is still not possible but it will come in the future
• All my logins are there. There is also a search option for all infos stored.

The problems with 1Password Touch are:

• There is no Mobile Safari integration. It uses instead the Web kit that comes with the SDK. Don't blame the developers here, blame Apple who don't allow any Safari integration. As a result we can't use 1Password Touch as we use the desktop program.
• There is no Windows Client (I don't really care since I use Mac but if you are a Windows user it's a problem)
• Stability. It still crashes. A new version (1.3) is on its way to the App Store and awaits approval.

I have also installed eWallet on my iPhone and I find it really great for entering and storing information. It lets you create categories and group your infos. The problem with it is that it relies on iTunes backups. There is currently no way to sync all info back to a desktop.

Splash ID, now I found it to be badly written on the iPhone. I regreted buying it...

 

[beate]

^

Very thought out and comprehensive review petvas.

 

[DenNukem]

Is it just me or are there a ton of posts for 1password? Seems strange the constant drumbeat of how great it is.

The three apps with most buzz about them are eWallet, 1Password and SplashID. The other thing that is common for all three, beside popularity, is the fact that they have a long history on other platforms (Windows Mobile, Mac desktop etc.) and a lot of satisfied users from those old days.

I think cusotmer loyalty from previous cusotmers is what makes them so popular, both in the app store and message boards.

Or to make it really short: popular brands are popular.