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D.T.

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Fair enough. I think the cheapest Brother with duplexing, wifi, and whatnot is around $220 excluding tax. I really like Brother because they're simple to fix, easy to use, and none of that smartchip ********.

Brother HL-L2350DW, duplex, built-in WiFi, supports all sorts of print protocols including AirPrint, fast warm up, etc., ~$89 from Amazon :)

I have the 2340, sitting right behind my desk, same features (I think slightly slower, replaced by this model recently), paid $84.95 delivered :D I'm still on the pack-in toner!
 

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Brother HL-L2350DW, duplex, built-in WiFi, supports all sorts of print protocols including AirPrint, fast warm up, etc., ~$89 from Amazon :)

I have the 2340, sitting right behind my desk, same features (I think slightly slower, replaced by this model recently), paid $84.95 delivered :D I'm still on the pack-in toner!
He bought an All in One. We're talking about All in Ones. Even that low end Brother is overpriced. They used to be low to mid 60s for roughly the same features a little more than a decade ago.

The lower end Brother printers (in price and features) tend to be "throw aways" once the main expensive roller needs replacing because it's pricey unless you find a cheap enough third party to make it worth your while. Though, as anyone would point out, that's after several thousand printed sheets.

Got a few B/W Brother AiOs and a couple color ones. Extended cartridges last forever, as you pointed out. Even the intro cartridges last forever.


Still use an inkjet for some stuff, but it's on a tank system.


Edit: Drum roller.
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I honestly set out to buy a Brothers but got sidetracked and excited and stuff and before I knew it I bought the canon. I’m a real low volume user who just got sick of buying ink. I didn’t realize how affordable lasers had become. I hope this is reliable.
Oh, they've been affordable for a long time now. They aren't spoken about much outside an office environment due to their "higher" introductory cost. The first AiO laser I had I bought just after 9/11, I think, and it cost a small fortune and it weighed a ton. It was probably 2.5-3 feet tall, big and bulky, and was in that stupid cream colored plastic that yellows overtime.


I would suggest buying a plastic cover for it or draping a small I don't know, a curtain, over it. Dust gets into nooks and crannies and it looks unkempt.
 
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Apple fanboy

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So since we're discussing popcorn, I have to ask something. For as long as I remember, I've always eaten my popcorn with sugar, instead of salt. Every single one of my friends thinks I'm an utter and total freak show, but I stand by it. Much better with sugar.

Am I the only one?
I never eat it at all. Can’t stand popcorn. The smell is bad enough.
 
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Mefisto

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Possibly.

For popcorn, salt is absolutely necessary. Salt and sugar, perhaps, this might merit further exploration, but sugar without salt, hmmmmm,

Now, salt and sugar, this I could give some consideration to: Some of my favourite foods are those that hit that sweet and salty nexus, one which - to my palate - is a sort of gustatory nirvana; butterscotch, shortbread biscuits, salted caramel, Parma ham, cor with butter and salt, and yes, popcorn......

Yeah I tend to only use sugar, no salt. The peculiar thing (one of many about my dietary habits it seems) is that I detest sugar in f. ex. coffee or tea, both of which I consume in copious amounts. Or pretty much everywhere else other than chocolate, and popcorn.

No I like both sweet popcorn, which at the cinema is a kind of candy caramel coating with different flavours or salted popcorn and if available real butter.

I should try coating my popcorn with something sometime.

I never eat it at all. Can’t stand popcorn. The smell is bad enough.

I get that. While I enjoy it every now and again, I once chipped a tooth while biting down on a kernel, and after that came I time where even the smell would would trigger a pretty strong aversion to all things popcorn. That all went away, though.
 

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Yeah I tend to only use sugar, no salt. The peculiar thing (one of many about my dietary habits it seems) is that I detest sugar in f. ex. coffee or tea, both of which I consume in copious amounts. Or pretty much everywhere else other than chocolate, and popcorn.



I should try coating my popcorn with something sometime.



I get that. While I enjoy it every now and again, I once chipped a tooth while biting down on a kernel, and after that came I time where even the smell would would trigger a pretty strong aversion to all things popcorn. That all went away, though.
Never liked it. When my daughter was with us, she’d like us to make it for her at home. It used to stink out the house.
Vile.
 

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I eat corn on the cob like a Neanderthal. I put a ginormous pile of butter on the plate and sprinkle it with salt and pepper. Then with a knife I slice off a gob (like way more than I should) and put it on one end of the ear and quickly gnaw down the length of the ear in one breath allowing it all to mix in my mouth. :(:(

I’m not proud of this, but it’s the way the big boy farmers ate it. :(

Please don’t quote this because I want to delete it soon.
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WT*? Tell me you don’t put sugar on your sweet corn? No self respecting
Heartlander could ever do such a thing. No more corn for you!

On sweetcorn? No. Never. Salt and butter for me. In greedy quantities.

The first time I ever came across this idea (sugar on sweetcorn) was on this very thread.

My point was that (and it took me quite a while to recognise and to be able to articulate this), is that I like foods that are both salty and sweet - such as Parma ham.

As a child, I disliked most sweets (candies to Our Transatlantic Cousins) - precisely because they were too sweet. I did like butterscotch however, - that sweet and salty hit, I love salted caramel, and I adore satay sauce. (Sweet, salty, and somewhat spicy).

Never liked it. When my daughter was with us, she’d like us to make it for her at home. It used to stink out the house.
Vile.

Nah, the aroma of cooking popcorn is one of those welcoming aromas. Like bacon and sausages. Holiday or break time, are what it suggests to me.

Now, I rarely eat it, but it is an enjoyable treat on occasion.
 
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Ulenspiegel

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Yes, I remember that.

Germany, in particular, used to have stores that shut shortly after lunch on a Saturday, a practice that baffled me.

However, - irrespective of religious considerations - psychologically, I think it a good thing to have one day a week that has a somewhat different flavour to it - a time when it is considered acceptable to 'switch off' - and, as a result, personally, I am not in favour of professional practices whereby people are supposed to be available for work 24/7.
S, nowadays it is the market economy that prevails. If there is a need, it will be provided in the hope of extra profit.
There was an interesting phenomenon in one of the East-Central European countries some years ago. At the initiative of the Christian Democratic People's Party the Parliament passed a law according to which Sundays became a day off for all in the country. It was met by the population with an otcry and soon a referendum was held. The law was annulled.
 

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S, nowadays it is the market economy that prevails. If there is a need, it will be provided in the hope of extra profit.
There was an interesting phenomenon in one of the East-Central European countries some years ago. At the initiative of the Christian Democratic People's Party the Parliament passed a law according to which Sundays became a day off for all in the country. It was met by the population with an otcry and soon a referendum was held. The law was annulled.

Oh, I agree that market economies prevail, and personally, I do like the convenience of knowing that shops are open on a Sunday (although I rarely avail of them unless necessity strikes).

Nevertheless, I cannot help feeling that the idea of a day off - as a right not a favour - needs to be embedded in our societies, as people need to rest - they need to be able to avail of the right to switch off and be uncontactable - as well as stay focussed on the tasks at hand.

And, the other thing that strikes me about Sunday work is that one rarely finds the senior people in any organisation compelled to put time in on those days; this is work for those at the bottom of the hierarchy, and - when it started - work on Sundays used to be sort of optional, and paid extra, this is no longer always the case.
 
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Ulenspiegel

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Oh, I agree that market economies prevail, and personally, I do like the convenience of knowing that shops are open on a Sunday (although I rarely avail of them unless necessity strikes).

Nevertheless, I cannot help feeling that the idea of a day off - as a right not a favour - needs to be embedded in our societies, as people need to rest - they need to be able to avail of the right to switch off and be uncontactable - as well as stay focussed on the tasks at hand.

And, the other thing that strikes me about Sunday work is that one rarely finds the senior people in any organisation compelled to put time in on those days; this is work for those at the bottom of the hierarchy, and - when it started - work on Sundays used to be sort of optional, and paid extra, this is no longer always the case.
I share your sentiment.
Nevertheless, just look at you or me and many others, when on mission who cared that we worked 24/7? ;)
 
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Apple fanboy

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On sweetcorn? No. Never. Salt and butter for me. In greedy quantities.

The first time I ever came across this idea (sugar on sweetcorn) was on this very thread.

My point was that (it took me quite a while to recognise and be able to articulate this), is that I like foods that are both salty and sweet - such as Parma ham.

As a child, I disliked most sweets (candies to Our Transatlantic Cousins) - they were too sweet. I did like butterscotch however, - that sweet and salty hit and I adore satay sauce. (Sweet, ally, and somewhat spicy).
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Nah, the aroma of cooking popcorn is one of those welcoming aromas. Like bacon and sausages. Holiday or break time, are what it suggests to me.

Now, I rarely eat it, but it is an enjoyable treat on occasion.
Bacon yes.
Sausages (well not the ones we have!).
Coffee.
Freshly baked bread.
Fish and chips.

These are aromas to die for!
 

Scepticalscribe

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I share your sentiment.
Nevertheless, just look at you or me and many others, when on mission who cared that we worked 24/7? ;)

This is true, but - as in my most recent deployment abroad - over a period of months, working 24/7 (and therefore, being mentally "on call" all the time) is exhausting. And when you do get given a day off, it is insufficient to replenish your mental (let alone physical) energies.

Actually, that is how you end up getting burned out.

Re missions, the energy, excitement, challenges, excellent remuneration, and experience all compensated to some extent, but, over months and months, did not compensate completely for exhaustion, working in a dysfunctional country in a testing work environment (some missions are terrific, others toxic) a world where - the classic "fumbling to try to fix failed states" means that you know you are working to a timetable calculated (realistically) in decades, rather than quick sticking plaster fixes set out in delusional and insanely optimistic terms of months, or weeks, or years.
Bacon yes.
Sausages (well not the ones we have!).
Coffee.
Freshly baked bread.
Fish and chips.

These are aromas to die for!

No, agreed, not the sausages you have, but real butcher's sausages, artisan sausages, this is an aroma to die for. Salivation on demand.

Freshly baked bread, yes, definitely.

Coffee, most certainly.

Fish'n'chips - an old family run fish and chip place, where they know what they are doing - cooking the chips themselves and preparing them manually - oh, wow. Yum. Sniff.
 
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Apple fanboy

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This is true, but - as in my most recent deployment abroad - over a period of months, working 24/7 (and therefore, being mentally "on call" all the time) is exhausting. And when you do get given a day off, it is insufficient to replenish your mental (let alone physical) energies.

Actually, that is how you end up getting burned out.

Re missions, the energy, excitement, challenges, excellent remuneration, and experience all compensated to some extent, but, over months and months, did not compensate completely for exhaustion, working in a dysfunctional country in a testing work environment (some missions are terrific, others toxic) a world where - the classic "fumbling to try to fix failed states" means that you know you are working to a timetable calculated (realistically) in decades, rather than quick sticking plaster fixes set out in delusional and insanely optimistic terms of months, or weeks, or years.
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No, agreed, not the sausages you have, but real butcher's sausages, artisan sausages, this is an aroma to die for. Salivation on demand.

Freshly baked bread, yes, definitely.

Coffee, most certainly.

Fish'n'chips - an old family run fish and chip place, where they know what they are doing - cooking the chips themselves and preparing them manually - oh, wow. Yum. Sniff.
This is making me hungry!
 
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Ulenspiegel

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This is true, but - as in my most recent deployment abroad - over a period of months, working 24/7 (and therefore, being mentally "on call" all the time) is exhausting. And when you do get given a day off, it is insufficient to replenish your mental (let alone physical) energies.

Actually, that is how you end up getting burned out.

Re missions, the energy, excitement, challenges, excellent remuneration, and experience all compensated to some extent, but, over months and months, did not compensate completely for exhaustion, working in a dysfunctional country in a testing work environment (some missions are terrific, others toxic) a world where - the classic "fumbling to try to fix failed states" means that you know you are working to a timetable calculated (realistically) in decades, rather than quick sticking plaster fixes set out in delusional and insanely optimistic terms of months, or weeks, or years.

I hear you.
 
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Children have no concept of time until they're in their teens. And even then... I mean who craves warm milk at this hour of the morning? I'm going back to bed after I carry this little human back to bed who fell asleep halfway drinking their milk.

I do, in my coffee, but I am rarely sufficiently alert, organised or efficient in the morning to be able to prepare it.

Thus, (and Italians would kill me for this lapse of taste) when I have warm milk with coffee, it tends to be in the afternoon, when brain and coordination and planning faculties are all working relatively competently.
 
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D.T.

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He bought an All in One. We're talking about All in Ones. Even that low end Brother is overpriced. They used to be low to mid 60s for roughly the same features a little more than a decade ago.

Ahh, I didn't see any AIO features mentioned, cool. Wait, are you saying a product from 10 years ago is more expensive now? That's weird!


:D

(In the context of: what can you buy, right now, today, it's a heck of a bargain ...)
 
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