What’s on your mind?

[rm5]

Online is ONLINE -I ignore pretty much 75% or more 😌

- If people assume things about me, I ignore.
- I don't ever explain myself to people I don't know for real, I ignore.
- If people try to drag me into their things/stuff/opinions, I ignore.

- There's more - points, that I don't care to elaborate on 😉

I agree, but, here's the problem: I get so incredibly bothered by disrespectful people that I almost can't ignore it. Regarding people making assumptions about me, well, I also feel that I should intervene to try and correct their mostly false assumptions.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I agree, but, here's the problem: I get so incredibly bothered by disrespectful people that I almost can't ignore it. Regarding people making assumptions about me, well, I also feel that I should intervene to try and correct their mostly false assumptions.

Trust me, that is one of the things that increasing age, or growing maturity, allow you to - grant you the confidence and self-belief to - ignore all of that nonsense.

You will come to realise that, in the greater scheme of things, that disrespectful people (unless they fall into the categories of friends and family, on the one hand, and regrettably necessary professional relationships, on the other, where, indeed, it might become necessary to correct disrespectful conduct and erroneous assumptions) - and, also those making assumptions (presumably erroneous) - do not really matter, in the long run.

Try not to allow such individuals to live rent free in your mind; instead, why not lose yourself in music, or something equally worthwhile?

 

[Clix Pix]

Unfortunately, on the internet, especially in discussion forums, one does see a fair amount of disrespect directed at others, as people seem to think they can get away with something when they're hidden behind a phosphorus or LCD screen -- and may write something that they probably would not say if actually speaking to someone in person. This happens on all forums, even ones which are supposed to be "nice" -- polite and courteous sites attempting to present and maintain a pleasant environment. Had an example of that just recently on another forum I'm a participant in, where there was some sniping going on before finally a moderator got in there into the particular thread and reminded everyone that this was not appropriate behavior.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Unfortunately, on the internet, especially in discussion forums, one does see a fair amount of disrespect directed at others, as people seem to think they can get away with something when they're hidden behind a phosphorus or LCD screen -- and may write something that they probably would not say if actually speaking to someone in person. This happens on all forums, even ones which are supposed to be "nice" -- polite and courteous sites attempting to present and maintain a pleasant environment. Had an example of that just recently on another forum I'm a participant in, where there was some sniping going on before finally a moderator got in there into the particular thread and reminded everyone that this was not appropriate behavior.

Truth is people say stuff online they would never say in the real world. Why? Because if people spoke to you in the real world like they speak to you online, you would simply either walk away from the relationship or respond in a way that would discourage them from doing it again.

 

[Lioness~]

I agree, but, here's the problem: I get so incredibly bothered by disrespectful people that I almost can't ignore it. Regarding people making assumptions about me, well, I also feel that I should intervene to try and correct their mostly false assumptions.

Disrespectful people don't deserve your attention, if you respect yourself. Simple as that.

You are young, and don’t know who you really are yet. When you do know who you are for real, you becomes a rock. But don’t be discouraged, there are plenty of old people who don’t know who they are either. People who have lived on lies their entire lives. So, it’s not an age-thing, but rather a growth and maturity thing, which have more with curiosity and openness and the willingness to grow as a human to do, then age. Be encouraged.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Regarding people making assumptions about me, well, I also feel that I should intervene to try and correct their mostly false assumptions.

No matter how many times it might try, a bee will never be able to convince a fly that honey tastes better than feces.

Don’t waste your time, or as Dante said in a famous line from his trip in the Inferno while passing by insulting souls and demons, “non ragioniam di lor, ma guarda e passa” (“Don’t think about them, just look and pass.”)

 

[yaxomoxay]

Mind you, it didn't help that it took the Vatican ages to remedy their own teaching on some of these matters

Well… in this case, they really put the saying “better late than never” to the test, and then some.

I find the Galileo case interesting more as a sort of anthropological study in idiocy. You have on the one hand a troll of the first kind that makes some good statements and also awful statements, on the other side you have a group of scientists, intelligent people - such as Cardinal Bellarmine which despite disagreement encouraged Galileo to write an expansion on his book and then even protected him - and then the worst of all: bureaucrats. Then you have a system which resolves disputes in what today would be considered a bizzarre method. Then the whole thing becomes political for 400 years, with fake news, odd interpretations of antique customs and methods, all mixed with a good basis of theological debate that arrives nowhere, with a pinch of people not knowing what actually had happened and yet making bold statements (similar to the case of Salem).

 

[Scepticalscribe]

No matter how many times it might try, a bee will never be able to convince a fly that honey tastes better than feces.

Don’t waste your time, or as Dante said in a famous line from his trip in the Inferno while passing by insulting souls and demons, “non ragioniam di lor, ma guarda e passa” (“Don’t think about them, just look and pass.”)

Dante?

Sigh.

You are pressing my buttons......another favourite.

I have to say that I absolutely loved the chapter about Dante in Primo Levi's (haunting and extraordinary) "If This Is A Man.."

 

[yaxomoxay]

Dante?

Sigh.

You are pressing my buttons......another favourite.

I have to say that I absolutely loved the chapter about Dante in Primo Levi's (haunting an extraordinary) "If This Is A Man.."

Oh my, I am glad you know “Se Questo è un uomo”! Haunting is the right adjective. It was mandatory reading in middle school back then. When I was 17 my girlfriend’s apartment was right in front of the apartment where he killed himself.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Oh my, I am glad you know “Se Questo è un uomo”! Haunting is the right adjective. It was mandatory reading in middle school back then. When I was 17 my girlfriend’s apartment was right in front of the apartment where he killed himself.

I think that it is brilliant, beautiful, compelling, haunting and heart-breaking; a stunning work, and how enlightened that it would have been made mandatory reading in middle school.

I, myself, only came across it in university, which is when I bought it.

 

[yaxomoxay]

I agree, but, here's the problem: I get so incredibly bothered by disrespectful people that I almost can't ignore it. Regarding people making assumptions about me, well, I also feel that I should intervene to try and correct their mostly false assumptions.

Dedicated to you. Let the lyrics become your mantra.

 

[yaxomoxay]

I better be careful in order not to trigger the wrath of the mighty moderators, but reading about the insane Cleopatra debacle - which is curiously unifying every single political faction and having an entire country to sue a producer - I realized that I never read a biography of hers, with the exception of the biographical notes from a Roman point of view (Mark Anthony, Caesar, little Caesar, Octavian). I guess I have to find a decent one and remedy to the lack of knowledge.

 

[compwiz1202]

Disrespectful people don't deserve your attention, if you respect yourself. Simple as that.

You are young, and don’t know who you really are yet. When you do know who you are for real, you becomes a rock. But don’t be discouraged, there are plenty of old people who don’t know who they are either. People who have lived on lies their entire lives. So, it’s not an age-thing, but rather a growth and maturity thing, which have more with curiosity and openness and the willingness to grow as a human to do, then age. Be encouraged.

The only issue sometimes like you say is they don't realize they are being rude etc because noone addresses it. But once someone does, if they continue, they went from ignorant to rude and disrespectul without a doubt.

 

[Lioness~]

The only issue sometimes like you say is they don't realize they are being rude etc because noone addresses it. But once someone does, if they continue, they went from ignorant to rude and disrespectul without a doubt.

Anyone who want to parent and/or educate people online can do it. Not my thing. I use online to express my thoughts, if people get something out of it, great. If not, I don’t care.

Sooner or later the responses will subside for disrespectful people. Seeking support online for serious things, are not the right way to go either. In other matters I usually let karma take care of it. It’s more entertaining to just sit back ☺️

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Bins, books, (plus bills, and beer) - and above all, online meetings.

 

[Macky-Mac]

The only issue sometimes like you say is they don't realize they are being rude etc because noone addresses it. But once someone does, if they continue, they went from ignorant to rude and disrespectul without a doubt.

there are no doubt a few who don't realize they're being rude.......but there are far more who find the internet to be an opportunity to enjoy behaving as badly as possible

 

[rm5]

but there are far more who find the internet to be an opportunity to enjoy behaving as badly as possible

Absolutely. In fact, I can point to a specific example from yesterday, where two guys on a Discord server, who joined as spam accounts, were just posting some of the most horrific, violent, inappropriate s**t. In fact, it was so bad that it was actually frightening. It actually scared me. It was shocking—you wouldn't believe what was being posted in there. And that's not even the end, because they also spammed slurs across the channels, it was so awful.

Now, since I happen to be a moderator in said server, they were banned within five minutes of this happening, but still, I find it so sad that people just want to do that, and that they think that's okay, because it's just not.

 

[Clix Pix]

Bins, books, (plus bills, and beer) - and above all, online meetings.

Nice alliteration going on here!

 

[yaxomoxay]

I have to post on the book thread some new content on my breviaries. Getting pretty close to my most treasured, antique set.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

The only issue sometimes like you say is they don't realize they are being rude etc because noone addresses it. But once someone does, if they continue, they went from ignorant to rude and disrespectul without a doubt.

there are no doubt a few who don't realize they're being rude.......but there are far more who find the internet to be an opportunity to enjoy behaving as badly as possible

I think that part of the problem is that an agreed etiquette for online behaviour has yet to evolve, or fully develop, - let alone be agreed upon and enforced - because the means of communication, as well as the systems and platforms that enable it, are all so new and have been developed so recently.

Etiquette, conduct and behaviour (online) lag some way behind developments in tech, as do sanctions for inappropriate (or rude, disrespectful and downright dangerous behaviour).

However, @Macky-Mac is quite right, for there are undoubtedly some individuals who view the online world as having liberated them from all and any need to behave in a civilised and courteous manner to others.

 

[Clix Pix]

Actually, when the internet was in its infancy and adolescence, there was indeed "Netiquette" -- actual rules and guidelines; unfortunately they have disappeared as time has gone on, and some of them are no longer as relevant as they were back in the days of dialup connections and limited bandwidth.

 

[max2]

I've had a few times when I've written something online in a post and later regretted here or in other forums and if I were lucky I was able to delete it before anyone saw it.....

Someone somewhere has it. That is what I always expect.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I think that part of the problem is that an agreed etiquette for online behaviour has yet to evolve, or fully develop, - let alone be agreed upon and enforced - because the means of communication, as well as the systems and platforms that enable it, are all so new and have been developed so recently.

Etiquette, conduct and behaviour (online) lag some way behind developments in tech, as do sanctions for inappropriate (or rude, disrespectful and downright dangerous behaviour).

However, @Macky-Mac is quite right, for there are undoubtedly some individuals who view the online world as having liberated them from all and any need to behave in a civilised and courteous manner to others.

Those individuals are why most forums have an ignore button. Makes the online world a more pleasant place when you filter out the idiots and trolls!
I prefer talking and reading what like minded (or at the very least polite people!) have to say.
Good manners cost nothing. That’s as true online as it is in the real world.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Those individuals are why most forums have an ignore button. Makes the online world a more pleasant place when you filter out the idiots and trolls!
I prefer talking and reading what like minded (or at the very least polite people!) have to say.
Good manners cost nothing. That’s as true online as it is in the real world.

Courtesy is a sign of respect (and decency), and not - as some mistakenly seem to think - a sign of weakness.

You can be polite, and show respect, while conveying an order or delivering an instruction.

And I couldn't agree more: Good manners cost nothing.

"Please" and "thank you" are two of the most important expressions in the English language.

 

[chown33]

Nice alliteration going on here!

Surely you mean "b-literation".