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Lioness~

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Raining, raining, raining, it's fall/autumn and that is more bothering than time shift to me.
But after a while I get more used to it, then snow usually comes, and that is even worse.

I'm snuggling up and drinking a big Espresso for now. Not sure I want to get out in this weather today, so I might cancel my spinning class and do ashtanga at home instead.
 
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Scepticalscribe

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Jul 29, 2008
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In a coffee shop.
When my father was alive, he was in charge of the clocks (or chose to be in charge of the clocks, he took responsibility for the clocks); in October, he was the person who put them back an hour, and, in March, he put them an hour forward.

Then, after he died, that task fell to me, and, whenever I was abroad, and the carer was looking after my mother, the carer did the needful.

However, my father (with punctilious attention to the call of time), invariably did his clock changing at around 10.30p.m. (22.30), meticulously attending to each clock in turn, during the night preceding the actual change (which is usually scheduled to take place at around 2.00), for - unlike my mother and I - he wasn't much of a night owl, and didn't wish to rise to face into a morning when time might be confused.

These days, in late autumn, I change the clocks - with a lingering reluctance, for I detest the onset of winter - on the afternoon of the day of the change, and not before.

Spring, of course, is different. Then, I thrill to the season and leap into clock-changing action at the mere thought of the approach of spring.
 

Apple fanboy

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When my father was alive, he was in charge of the clocks (or chose to be in charge of the clocks, he took responsibility for the clocks); in October, he was the person who put them back an hour, and, in March, he put them an hour forward.

Then, after he died, that task fell to me, and, whenever I was abroad, and the carer was looking after my mother, the carer did the needful.

However, my father (with punctilious attention to the call of time), invariably did his clock changing at around 10.30p.m. (22.30), meticulously attending to each clock in turn, during the night preceding the actual change (which is usually scheduled to take place at around 2.00), for - unlike my mother and I - he wasn't much of a night owl, and didn't wish to rise to face into a morning when time might be confused.

These days, in late autumn, I change the clocks - with a lingering reluctance, for I detest the onset of winter - on the afternoon of the day of the change, and not before.

Spring, of course, is different. Then, I thrill to the season and leap into clock-changing action at the mere thought of the approach of spring.
I just do them in the morning. The AW and iPhone which I probably use the most for telling the time do it automatically of course.
Then it’s just the thermostat for each room, landline and cooker.
 
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Clix Pix

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We in the US have another week of Daylight Savings Time to enjoy before we, too, need to engage in the every-six-months ritual of changing the time in our clocks. I've only got a wall clock in the kitchen which needs to be adjusted, plus the clock in the microwave. Haven't touched the clock on the stove for years, since I really don't use it that frequently. I also don't bother with the one on the coffee maker since (a) I don't ever set the thing on a regular schedule for specified brewing times and can't be bothered to have to fiddle with setting the correct time again after we have a power failure, and (b) in a couple of days Amazon will be delivering me a shiny new coffee maker anyway, as this one has gone rogue on me, producing bitter coffee. Ugh!

In the master bedroom I do have my bedside alarm clock to adjust, too, and that's it; everything else is part of an Apple device and will automatically change over anyway, as will the clock in my car. Hopefully I will remember, though, to change over the clocks in my camera bodies, though, come to think of it....
 

VulchR

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I said it 'candy' uugghhh the 13 year old and 9 year old tease me all the time.

Its an elevator not a lift

Its a stroller not a push chair

Its a trunk not a boot

Its a hood not a bonnet

In the UK I talk to so many people including my 33 year old daughter. They are desperate to go west. Never interested me I always looked (and worked) east. Taiwan, China, Japan, Philippines, Hong Kong, Thailand, Vietnam.

The culture, the people it is so vibrant.
I grew up in the US, so I speak the American dialect despite having lived half my life in the UK. On occasion when I have visited France I have been asked if I 'speak English'.
 

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The cooker.........

Damn and double damn.

I knew that I had somehow overlooked or forgotten one of the time-keeping devices in the house....
Which, as the oven is busy right now, (and shall be for hours yet) - as carbonnades à la flamande - Belgian (Flemish) beef stew, details in the dinner thread - is currently occupying the oven - I shall have to attend to time keeping (and clock adjusting) duties, sometime later this evening, or tonight, or, perhaps, even, as late as tomorrow.

Sometimes, time can be strangely elastic......
 

Clix Pix

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Definitely time can be elastic! There have been years where it has been more than a month or even two that I've been happily shooting with my cameras, and they're still set at EDT (Eastern Daylight Time) when they should now be on EST (Eastern Standard Time), or vice-versa! Fortunately I am not shooting in situations where accurate time of when an image was shot would be truly important, such as in forensic photography, photojournalism, etc.
 

jdoll021

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Tonight the clocks go back (are put back) an hour; for me, this is possibly the single most depressing date in the entire year, as it announces the arrival of winter, and heralds the onset of dark evenings, with light leached from our lives for the coming four months.

I have to wait till this coming Saturday for the clocks to go back. But I’m excited for it. Daylight savings always feels like having an hour of my life robbed, so turning back to standard time feels like getting it back. Getting up in the morning is much easier! Winter is also my favorite time of year. I just wish I lived somewhere that gets snow.

What latitude are you at that you feel the loss of light so much?
 
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Scepticalscribe

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In a coffee shop.
I have to wait till this coming Saturday for the clocks to go back. But I’m excited for it. Daylight savings always feels like having an hour of my life robbed, so turning back to standard time feels like getting it back.
My feelings are the exact opposite to what you have written.
Getting up in the morning is much easier!
No, it is not.

Not for me, at any rate.

If I could curl under the duvet between now and not emerge until mid March, I would do so very happily.

This is the sort of day - this time of the year - when I think - longingly - of hibernation.

Never mind that one would awaken (probably) hungry, possibly horny, and very, very emaciated, (an appearance approaching that insane rib-showing super-skinny so adored by the fashion world), the trade off for sleeping through winter might serve to make this worthwhile.
Winter is also my favorite time of year.
I loathe winter.
I just wish I lived somewhere that gets snow.
Well, why not pay a visit to Scandinavia.....then, there is almost all of eastern Europe, try Poland, for snow.

Next, I can direct you to the former Soviet World - in Belarus, for example, (and I speak from personal experience) the snow arrives around the second week of November and does not depart until mid March.

What about Russia? There, the winter is so long, (and cold, and dark, and depressing and very full of snow), that Russian military mythology refers to "General Winter" as an invaluable ally whenever any foreign army has been seized by the asinine idea of attempting an invasion anytime around autumn or afterwards.


What latitude are you at that you feel the loss of light so much?
Try the British Isles.
 
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Chuckeee

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When my father was alive, he was in charge of the clocks (or chose to be in charge of the clocks, he took responsibility for the clocks); in October, he was the person who put them back an hour, and, in March, he put them an hour forward.

Then, after he died, that task fell to me, and, whenever I was abroad, and the carer was looking after my mother, the carer did the needful.

However, my father (with punctilious attention to the call of time), invariably did his clock changing at around 10.30p.m. (22.30), meticulously attending to each clock in turn, during the night preceding the actual change (which is usually scheduled to take place at around 2.00), for - unlike my mother and I - he wasn't much of a night owl, and didn't wish to rise to face into a morning when time might be confused.

These days, in late autumn, I change the clocks - with a lingering reluctance, for I detest the onset of winter - on the afternoon of the day of the change, and not before.

Spring, of course, is different. Then, I thrill to the season and leap into clock-changing action at the mere thought of the approach of spring.
I’ve always been the one to change the all of the clocks (including the ones in the cars and everyone’s watches too). I started doing it when I was little (I remember doing when I was 8). I was a bit compulsive about synchronizing all the clocks too, while I was moving then forward or back. I remember being very annoyed going to school after changing the clocks and seeing all the clocks in the school being off by 2-3 minutes.
 

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I’ve always been the one to change the all of the clocks (including the ones in the cars and everyone’s watches too). I started doing it when I was little (I remember doing when I was 8). I was a bit compulsive about synchronizing all the clocks too, while I was moving then forward or back. I remember being very annoyed going to school after changing the clocks and seeing all the clocks in the school being off by 2-3 minutes.
Now, lest anyone labour under the illusion (delusion?) that my father's clock adjustment duties in October and March were a form of servility or slavery to the domestic sphere, allow me to disabuse you.

He adored pottering about the house, attending to the tasks he had chosen, or, had been willed to him, or had thrust upon him, - he did them all cheerfully - and was utterly reliable.

Moreover, once the dark evenings drew in, his notion of how Saturday evening should wend its way (once he had done the washing up, whereas I was frequently on chef duty), was to have the radio on (classical music or jazz for preference - and his knowledge of both was encyclopedic), his pipe lit (non-smokers were thus exiled from the kitchen), and either a bottle of good Italian red wine, or Scottish whisky, - and its attendant glass - to hand.

Only when MOTD came on would he claim access to one of the (at that time) two televisions, - I would be politely asked to vacate the study - in order to watch (and suffer with, and sometimes shout at) Manchester United.

The fact that my mother (and brother) were sometimes (nay, often) also watching MOTD in the living room together was entirely irrelevant; sometimes, suffering is a solitary occupation. It is especially solitary if your suffering serves to give rise to ribald mockery from your family in the adjacent room.

Anyway, MOTD over (or, rather, the section with Manchester United concluded), my father would then retire to the kitchen, good mood restored, (irrespective of the result), and proceed to return to his pipe and his whisky and his music where he was available to be chatted with, about life, the universe and everything - I used to sometimes grade term papers at the kitchen table, and we would chat.
 
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DaveFromCampbelltown

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Past 30 days above 6.0, where you ?
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I used to live in Madang, one of the most spifflicatingly beautiful towns on the planet. Even when you include the lagoon with the crocodiles barking their mating calls...

I have been through a number of 6+ earthquakes when I lived in PNG, the loudest one was when I was in a hardware shop, with all the metal shelving and all the metal tools hanging off the metal hooks swaying and banging. Literally a heavy metal concert without the rhythm...

I once read that the reason no major cities in Greater Europe get earthquakes was the fact that the cities that were on earthquake zones have all fallen down. The ones that are left aren't in earthquake-prone areas.
 
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DaveFromCampbelltown

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The cooker.........

Damn and double damn.

I knew that I had somehow overlooked or forgotten one of the time-keeping devices in the house....

The car. I forgot the car.
How come the car, which connects to the internet for software updates, and to GPS to know where it is, can't ask what the flamin' time it is? So, when DST cuts in, it doesn't know where it is, but where it was an hour ago. And when Standard time cuts in, it knows where it will be in an hour's time.
 

Lioness~

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I have 1 Clock which I change manually, all else do it automatically. I like that I do see the time shift.
Without that one I wouldn’t even notice the hour given and stolen in this Daylight saving story of our lives.

Just go figure if all the electronically devices from Apple etc. one day just took a time travel of some weird reason.

My only manually clock, with re-chargeable batterier that I change like every other year or so, would save my mind 😂

I can connect it to the power-grid to, but I have it on the wall as it have quite large digits.
 
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Mylodon

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Just go figure if all the electronically devices from Apple etc. one day just took a time travel of some weird reason.
This reminds me of Apple Vision Pro, it's some kind of time travel also.

I used to see a YouTuber say this device can record and save the scene happening now, and vividly play after.

It means that, if someone passes away in my life, I can use it to recall them, even utilize it to live with them, but I think that's too cruel for the living people.

But I'm still lucky, my parents are still healthy and strong, the only thing that makes me feel anxious is I am too busy to visit them. Every time I notice that they would leave me one day, it makes it hard to breathe.
 

jdoll021

macrumors 6502
My feelings are the exact opposite to what you have written.

No, it is not.

Not for me, at any rate.

If I could curl under the duvet between now and not emerge until mid March, I would do so very happily.

This is the sort of day - this time of the year - when I think - longingly - of hibernation.

Never mind that one would awaken (probably) hungry, possibly horny, and very, very emaciated, (an appearance approaching that insane rib-showing super-skinny so adored by the fashion world), the trade off for sleeping through winter might serve to make this worthwhile.
Eh, for me, it's the time difference between sunrise and the time I wake up. I'm not naturally an early bird but I force myself to be one for my job. The shorter the time between sunrise and wake up, the better. Where I am in California, the sun rises at 07:30 until we "fall back," then it's back to 06:30, which is closer to the time I get up in the morning, thus it feels easier.

I do understand your feelings though. In the peak of winter when the sun is back to rising at 07:30, then its hard again. Buuuut...I remind myself that if we ever have forever daylight savings time, then the sun would rise at 08:30 and it would be worse...oh so much worse!
I loathe winter.
I sympathize if I don't agree. I feel the same about summer. You haven't truly experienced heat until you've been in 40 C temps. And there are places here in the US that I've been to with 35 -38 C temps and 90% humidity. With summers like that, winter looks quite appealing.
Well, why not pay a visit to Scandinavia.....then, there is almost all of eastern Europe, try Poland, for snow.
Scandinavia is on my list of places to visit. Particularly Sweden (I'm part Swedish). But we're starting with the Netherlands first. Not Scandinavian, I know. We're mostly going there to experience cities that are the polar opposite of American cities. Probably Germany too (also part German). I'll save Eastern Europe for a time if/when I'm actually living there.
Try the British Isles.
Ah! Now I understand. I hear it's always grey there and seeing the sun happens about as often as seeing the super blue blood moon. Would like to visit Scotland someday though.
 
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compwiz1202

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Why do we have to choose sides? I do not want to start any kind of thread for what is going on in the world right now but it seems there is a culture that says we must choose sides. I like to think I take a balanced point of view. See the perspective from both sides and don't judge. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the innocent men, women and children.
Agree I always like to understand why both sides feel the way they feel even if I strongly disagree
 
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jdoll021

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I’ve always been the one to change the all of the clocks (including the ones in the cars and everyone’s watches too). I started doing it when I was little (I remember doing when I was 8). I was a bit compulsive about synchronizing all the clocks too, while I was moving then forward or back. I remember being very annoyed going to school after changing the clocks and seeing all the clocks in the school being off by 2-3 minutes.

Lol, this sounds like my childhood! I was probably the only first grader with a watch because of how time obsessed I was. I was even allowed to change the clocks for that reason and would use my watch to ensure all the clocks in the house we're accurate. I too was annoyed with the school clocks being off. It was like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
 
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jdoll021

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Now, lest anyone labour under the illusion (delusion?) that my father's clock adjustment duties in October and March were a form of servility or slavery to the domestic sphere, allow me to disabuse you.

He adored pottering about the house, attending to the tasks he had chosen, or, had been willed to him, or had thrust upon him, - he did them all cheerfully - and was utterly reliable.

Moreover, once the dark evenings drew in, his notion of how Saturday evening should wend its way (once he had done the washing up, whereas I was frequently on chef duty), was to have the radio on (classical music or jazz for preference - and his knowledge of both was encyclopedic), his pipe lit (non-smokers were thus exiled from the kitchen), and either a bottle of good Italian red wine, or Scottish whisky, - and its attendant glass - to hand.

Only when MOTD came on would he claim access to one of the (at that time) two televisions, - I would be politely asked to vacate the study - in order to watch (and suffer with, and sometimes shout at) Manchester United.

The fact that my mother (and brother) were sometimes (nay, often) also watching MOTD in the living room together was entirely irrelevant; sometimes, suffering is a solitary occupation. It is especially solitary if your suffering serves to give rise to ribald mockery from your family in the adjacent room.

Anyway, MOTD over (or, rather, the section with Manchester United concluded), my father would then retire to the kitchen, good mood restored, (irrespective of the result), and proceed to return to his pipe and his whisky and his music where he was available to be chatted with, about life, the universe and everything - I used to sometimes grade term papers at the kitchen table, and we would chat.

This has got to be the most quintessentially British comment I've read in a long time. Also, very much like something you'd read from a page in a book. Love it!
 

Apple fanboy

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Darkness descended before dinner was done. Tomorrow it will be dark before I get home from the office.
Before long I’ll be driving in to work in the dark and driving home in the dark.

Wake me when it’s spring already?
Question is will the hearing go on in November or December?
 

avz

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Why do we have to choose sides?
I feel that your question contains the answer to the question that one of the forum users once asked me, something along the line: What is so special about being sovereign/being able to make sovereign decisions?

Think about some situations like dealing with your wife or family members for example: So you'll have to choose sides because you don't want to end up "sleeping outside". The reality is that neutrality is something that very few can truly afford.
 

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I sympathize if I don't agree. I feel the same about summer. You haven't truly experienced heat until you've been in 40 C temps. And there are places here in the US that I've been to with 35 -38 C temps and 90% humidity. With summers like that, winter looks quite appealing.
I have worked in a number of countries where it has been 40C plus for months on end, and yes, I will willingly concede that it is far from pleasant, in fact, it is downright unpleasant.

My own personal sweet spot temperature wise is 20-30C, although I can handle up to mid 30s without too much discomfort, and can acclimatise to heat and warmth with astonishing ease.
Ah! Now I understand. I hear it's always grey there and seeing the sun happens about as often as seeing the super blue blood moon. Would like to visit Scotland someday though.
Not always (grey), but yes, almost always.
 
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