The whole point of college (from the perspective of both student and teacher) is to stretch your mind.
Where else will you ever do it, if not there?
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Where else will you ever do it, if not there?
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I am in Junior High. And I am not telling my age please and thank you.
Anyways, boy do I wish I had a better behaved class. I love my friends. Maybe it is a phase..
I am in Junior High. And I am not telling my age please and thank you.
Anyways, boy do I wish I had a better behaved class. I love my friends. Maybe it is a phase..
We had a whole thread about this very thing once. It was, uh, interesting...
Either it's a phase, or it isn't. At that stage (junior high/middle school)*, it's hard to tell.
I had a terrible middle school class, and a better (but still bad) high school class. What I noticed was that the kids who were rowdy during freshman year of high school sort of remained like that throughout, even in my senior year. There are a couple exceptions I can think of where they did mature by senior year, but that seemed to be a rarity, at least at my high school.
Middle school was different because everyone was still so young. That's what made it so damn awful.
*I know junior high and middle school are technically different, but I'm grouping them in the same thing for simplicity sake.
Personally, I never made friends in school. I just watched whatever other people were doing. Not only was it hard for me to make any friends, but I also didn't care enough to. Both things. Anyway, enough making this about me. Hopefully your class will become better-behaved!
EDIT: I can remember a total of seven expulsions in my high school class. It was really obvious when it happened.
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I'm not American, hence, 'junior high' is something I am only vaguely aware of, and, while I know that it describes something at second level, the precise details elude me.
Besides, many Americans seem to be of the opinion that the rest of the world is fluent in the nuances of their culture: I can assure you that this is not the case.
Perhaps someone else can advise me of what precisely 'junior high' means, educationally, and in terms of what age this caters to.
In any case, I don't want to know your age - apologies if my comments appeared intrusive - but, nevertheless, you do come across as pretty young, with that injured and outraged tone I remember so well from my teaching days (and indeed, from my own adolescence).
My question stands: How do you propose that a teacher deal with morons who won't pay attention?
I grant you that collective punishment is not the answer, and, I suspect that outraged parents might howl at the notion of exclusion or exile (of their darlings) from the classroom.
The love for your friends?
Or, their idiotic and immature behaviour in the classroom?
Very good post.
Yes, I tend to agree with you.
I can well imagine that the immature clowns continued to behave that way right through school.
As for friends......in my experience, very few (school) friendships survive adulthood.
My mother's did, but, for my part, I'm hardly in touch with anyone from school, - I wish them well, but, we are not friends - although I have remained friendly with people from university.
It all depends on several factors.
When I was growing up, Elementary School was K-6. Junior High was 7-9 and High School was 10-12. But your 9th grade grades counted towards your 4 year credit requirement to graduate High School. And for college.
My daughter who was born when I was 34 went K-5, Middle School was 6-8 and HS was 9-10.
My wife who was from Indiana went to an Elementary that was K-8 and then onto HS. So no middle or junior.
But some districts also have an Intermediate School which can vary but is usually 4-6 or 3-5 or similar.
The idea is to put students of similar maturity together so untoward influence from older students is lessened.
Perhaps @jumpcats1234 can correct me if I'm wrong, they'd know better than me.
Junior high - as far as I'm aware, is grades 7, 8, and 9, while middle school is grades 6, 7, and 8. That's why I said they're technically different.
Some parts of the U.S. have middle school (such as where I grew up), while others have junior high. The latter seems to be growing more obsolete, with many schools that offered junior high in the past (such as my dad's school) now converting to middle schools. Though obviously this hasn't happened everywhere in the country.
Therefore, since junior high typically serves grades 7-9, students would typically be around 12-15 years old.
If there was one thing I could impress on kids today it would be to stop sweating HS drama. You won't talk to half these kids a year after you graduate and will barely remember most of them after 10 years.
College is different.
I am in a different situation since I went to a boarding school for HS. I am still in regular contact with about 6-7 people and we get together once a year for a nice dinner. Since I was an athlete in college, I am still in contact with several teammates, but those are different bonds.
But the mean girl/boy from HS is ancient history.
I think it honestly depends on the person. My dad, for instance, is still very good friends with high school classmates (as well as college/grad school students, as well).
@Herdfan, thank you.
But, Across The Pond, even references to K-5 (or 'grade' whatever) etc are culturally specific, and therefore, are as unknown and unknowable as Attic Greek to us.
Precisely because we use other modes, or forms, of expressing the various levels of education, what other cultures use makes little sense unless one has lived through it, or has read about it, in detail.
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Lo these many, many moons ago when I was growing up, our junior high was for the seventh and eighth grades; we then "graduated" from eighth grade and the next fall began our freshman year (ninth grade) in high school.
In general, kids in seventh grade are twelve years old, kids in eighth grade are thirteen years old and those beginning high school are fourteen years old......
In general, kids in seventh grade are twelve years old, kids in eighth grade are thirteen years old and those beginning high school are fourteen years old......
The thing is, in most European systems that I know of, we don't use the expression "grade" when differentiating between one year and another in school.
Thus, whenever I read the word grade in this context - unless the actual ages are specified - (second grade, etc) - it doesn't leave me any the wiser as I am not familiar with these terms.
We use terms such as "class" (1st class), "form" (1st form), or "year" (1st year); we don't use "grade"; this is a term that is specific to the second level (secondary school) educational system in the US.
In the US, there is Preschool and then Kindergarten, and after that, the first of twelve grades.....
The terms "freshman," "sophomore," Junior" and "senior" are used in high school for ninth through twelfth grades. So it is understood that a Junior in high school, for instance, can and may also be referred to as being in the eleventh grade.
When one begins college or university in the US the terminology changes somewhat, dropping the references to grade levels altogether. Students are freshmen the first year, sophomores the second year, juniors the third year and seniors the fourth and final year.
I attended public schools throughout my school years so I am not sure but I have the impression that some, if not all private schools, either day schools or boarding schools, do use different terminology for their students and whatever academic year they are in.
The terms "freshman," "sophomore," Junior" and "senior" are used in high school for ninth through twelfth grades. So it is understood that a Junior in high school, for instance, can and may also be referred to as being in the eleventh grade.
When one begins college or university in the US the terminology changes somewhat, dropping the references to grade levels altogether. Students are freshmen the first year, sophomores the second year, juniors the third year and seniors the fourth and final year.
I attended public schools throughout my school years so I am not sure but I have the impression that some, if not all private schools, either day schools or boarding schools, do use different terminology for their students and whatever academic year they are in.
Some do, but certainly not all.
Here at my university, "freshmen" are called "first-years," to avoid the possible impression that "freshmen" is discriminative (in the sense, "freshman" or "freshmen") - in other words, it serves as gender-inclusive language.
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A good start would be to not think, let alone call, them morons and idiots.
Indeed, in a perfect world, that would be true.
However, the - shall we say, bottomless capacity for self-centred absorption, hormonal turmoil, and the almost intensely clannish and cultish nature of some of their teenage friendships - and I thought all of this, even as I was teenager, myself, and was not (entirely) immune to some of this - that, plus my own time at secondary school as a student - left me with an enduring distaste for second level schools.
Policeman, counsellor, loco parentis, and academic mentor, and at that, to students, who, for the most part, weren't even interested in what you taught; this is too much to ask of any human being.
You couldn't pay me anough to wish to teach in one.
Third level was different; there, your interest in, and mastery of, your subject, as student and teacher, was lauded and applauded, encouraged and supported, and when you taught, you generally taught students who - precisely because they had chosen to study this subject - could be assumed to have ahd an interest in it.
While I loved my student days at university, - to an even greater extent - I loved teaching at university.
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We need a clapping reaction, and I would add most of our study abroad students are quite serious (though to be perfectly honest they do cut loose a bit as they can legally go to bars/clubs etc. here whereas back in the US where they cannot).
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My wife at same time is helping her lower 80’s mom move into a new home, she’s going thru the multitude of photo boxes there, dividing them up to give to her 5 siblings. The sticky notes divide them up.
She’s thrown away literally 80-90% of the photos thru this process.
Full disclosure; she does the throw away without her mom around..
She’s also been doing the family genealogy online past 2 years, and using old “found” photos for info and faces on the family tree charts. She’s using same app.
What we’ve both realized is:
A) remember the past with fondness
B) live in the present moment
C) plan for the future
Good luck completing your task.
Thank you Apple for creating that amazing Vision PRO bs product. Now (well, in 5/10 years) our offices will be completely virtual and fully functional, so our bosses can reach us on vacation to do some time consuming, full-fledged “urgent” (for them) task.
Dystopia at its finest.
Dystopia at its finest.
Of all people (or entities) who I'd least expect to make a Discord server, it'd be my university. But this morning, the conservatory sent a link to none other than a legitimate Conservatory Discord server. I guess that's cool!
Appalling.
Horrific, actually.
Yes, absolutely.
What an absolutely appalling concept.
I went to Junior High School, but they also had Kindergarten, and grades 1-6 there because it was out in the country. Apparently, that town had the first Junior High School in the country. They've since switched to Middle School and moved 9th grade to the High School.
In the city where I live now, what isn't a High School is called Elementary School, which includes K-8th grade. They have three High Schools and one Continuation School for those who don't/can't handle regular school. I'm not sure that anyone really gets an education here.