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My work office is actually based in Vancouver too, so I may swing by to say hello to the many I haven't met yet.. but maybe not haha.
I would go in! Just see what the actual office is, say hi to some people. Don't need to stay for long. It would strengthen your connection with colleagues and supervisors, IMO.
In the second phase, when I had to work a few day shifts from home, I had to call off one day because I had a full day of classes and a significant midterm exam that conflicted with my work schedule.
Okay wait... so you worked at NASA AND managed a full course load? How?!

Actually, at my institution, students are not allowed to pursue internships during the academic year—only over the summer—for this very reason. In fact, there's an entire campus job that entails going through Handshake and removing internships and other positions held during the school year. That's literally the job, something like "Handshake Inventory Manager," I think it's called.
 
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I would go in! Just see what the actual office is, say hi to some people. Don't need to stay for long. It would strengthen your connection with colleagues and supervisors, IMO.
Very valid and probably will go in, and I'll probably bring donuts too just to be that guy. haha

I'm trying to imagine myself working at NASA.. I'd probably accidentally delete a prod database and then take a sick day.
 
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I would go in! Just see what the actual office is, say hi to some people. Don't need to stay for long. It would strengthen your connection with colleagues and supervisors, IMO.

Okay wait... so you worked at NASA AND managed a full course load? How?!

Actually, at my institution, students are not allowed to pursue internships during the academic year—only over the summer—for this very reason. In fact, there's an entire campus job that entails going through Handshake and removing internships and other positions held during the school year. That's literally the job, something like "Handshake Inventory Manager," I think it's called.
NASA OSTEM’s recruitment process is unique. I applied for a summer internship that had a start date during the summer. They received thousands of applications from the spring through Memorial Day, and hired nearly 500 interns. The recruiters sent offer letters after Independence Day, and we started in early August, ending summer break. If you applied in autumn that’s for the tenure during winter break in January to summer. Each phase has a different length. Since my contract ended after the internship, I can share more details without revealing confidential information.

Mission 1 involved working asynchronously remotely to learn about NASA. We read about space exploration, NASA’s history, mission directorates, and career paths after university. This took 5-6 weeks, during which we could work anytime by logging into our portal internally. The only mandatory meetings were orientation sessions and optional meetings with our supervisor and industry experts. This was the most flexible part, as we could still attend classes without conflicts. We also learned about NASA’s collaborations with international space agencies and smaller firms like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic. Since we didn’t have to work actual shifts, the company only fired interns with a performance score below 50%. Eligibility was checked after the last day of work, and we received an email notification if we could move forward. They terminated 50 interns so we had 465 interns in the next phase. If selected, we resubmitted our resume to NASA.

In missions 2 and 3, interns must work actual shifts. The second phase is fully remote, but we follow the company’s central and eastern time zone schedule, similar to deadlines. Interns from the west coast still need to wake up early. We work from home 9/10 am to 2 pm PDT, excluding weekends, for a week. Missions 3 and 2 are each a week long, so we don’t work during holidays or finals. The second phase is the most challenging. We’re assigned to a department and broken into five colored sections by a NASA station. We still have the same supervisor and fill out paperwork with our team and do research pertaining to our role. This coincides with quarterly classes, midterms, and breaks. Our company allows us to fill out forms for excuse letters or notes from NASA for our teachers and bosses if we work other jobs. If we still have to attend class and take tests, we can call off with 24 hours’ notice. The only day we can’t call off is the last day of Mission 2, when we present our research report to NASA.

The final hurdle is notification via email and a call from NASA in the meantime after Thanksgiving to before Christmas. Each venue in the country can only accept 50-60 interns, all NASA stations and associated facilities with a grant from NASA. This is mission 3, the in-person part of my hybrid internship. It usually takes place during winter break after New Year’s or summer break before the 4th of July, depending on the tenure. This spans 10-12 locations across the nation. Only two people, including me, from our department got in from the remote portions of our job, which we were relocated to the same facility for. Each facility has interns from various institutions in that region or state. Surprisingly, we had a few East Coast students on our team. We completed this during Christmas break, which was only a week during my two-month break. It was a lot of fun. The activities vary depending on the location. The company provides food, buses, planes, hotel rooms, free swag, and a uniform. You get a certificate of completion for mission 2 and a nicer one for completing all missions on the last shift of mission 3 from your boss.

Very valid and probably will go in, and I'll probably bring donuts too just to be that guy. haha

I'm trying to imagine myself working at NASA.. I'd probably accidentally delete a prod database and then take a sick day.
😂 but it’s a fun company to work at, they have great benefits for interns if you have to travel. And sightsee the city too
 
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No political talk is allowed here I get it.
Is NASA tied to the USA government?
If so, I’d wait on getting a job or internship there till .. stuff settles down a little.
 
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No political talk is allowed here I get it.
Is NASA tied to the USA government?
If so, I’d wait on getting a job or internship there till .. stuff settles down a little.
NASA is part of the US Guv'mint; they have always "contracted out" much system development to contractors (Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, and Thiokol, where I worked for two years on the Shuttle boosters). It does seem, from the outside looking in (I left Thiokol in '99) that the for-profit companies are assuming more and more of a role (especially in the last 20 years).
As far as an internship, I would encourage any student to jump on any opportunity like that; it could be cancelled but is highly unlikely due to the short time span, and a feather like that on a resumé, while that student is looking for their first full-time job, can only be a good thing. Accepting a full-time NASA job, or any federal job at this time, well, I've been too out of the loop, anymore, to have a valid opinion.
 
No political talk is allowed here I get it.
Is NASA tied to the USA government?
If so, I’d wait on getting a job or internship there till .. stuff settles down a little.
NASA is part of the US Guv'mint; they have always "contracted out" much system development to contractors (Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, and Thiokol, where I worked for two years on the Shuttle boosters). It does seem, from the outside looking in (I left Thiokol in '99) that the for-profit companies are assuming more and more of a role (especially in the last 20 years).
As far as an internship, I would encourage any student to jump on any opportunity like that; it could be cancelled but is highly unlikely due to the short time span, and a feather like that on a resumé, while that student is looking for their first full-time job, can only be a good thing. Accepting a full-time NASA job, or any federal job at this time, well, I've been too out of the loop, anymore, to have a valid opinion.
Without the controversy surrounding the recent discussion among the newest interns at NASA last month about the strategic plan for 2025, I can provide you with insights into how our company is connected to the government. Two of the internships require all applicants to be US citizens or legally authorized permanent residents to work in the country, while the last one is for international and foreign nationals.

Firstly, we apply for internships and jobs at NASA through various portals. Civil servants apply through USAJobs.gov, and these interns participate in the Pathways program. These internships also apply to other NASA jobs at stations primarily funded by the government. However, these positions have stricter restrictions on the number of internships you can apply for during an academic period, regardless of the position. They only allow undergraduate and graduate students and have different qualification requirements compared to the other internship program. I’ll discuss these differences below.

The other program that utilizes funding from stations, grants like NASA Space Grant, and partnerships with NASA partner universities is the Office of STEM Engagement Programs. Some stations also provide their own internships, such as JPL and ASU’s L’Space program. We refer to this program as OSTEM, which is an abbreviation. All positions offered through this portal are available in fully remote, hybrid, and in-person formats from a NASA station or associated facility. This is where I applied for my internship. In addition to requiring applicants to submit transcripts, resumes, and citizenship or permanent residency status, each posting on the NASA STEM Gateway recruitment website has its own specific requirements. These requirements are not uniform across all positions. Therefore, the applications you submit online vary significantly depending on the job description. Each position has its own deadlines, and some remote or hybrid positions may require additional verification or training if you will be working with civil servants.

There are also fellowships available, but these are more research-oriented and are exclusively for graduate and postgraduate students. The last one is the international ones if you don’t meet the criteria that is required for most internships at NASA. You do have to have an interest in space exploration or STEM, be enrolled at a university or college in any country and have a valid work visa.
 
NASA OSTEM’s recruitment process is unique. I applied for a summer internship that had a start date during the summer. They received thousands of applications from the spring through Memorial Day, and hired nearly 500 interns. The recruiters sent offer letters after Independence Day, and we started in early August, ending summer break. If you applied in autumn that’s for the tenure during winter break in January to summer. Each phase has a different length. Since my contract ended after the internship, I can share more details without revealing confidential information.

Mission 1 involved working asynchronously remotely to learn about NASA. We read about space exploration, NASA’s history, mission directorates, and career paths after university. This took 5-6 weeks, during which we could work anytime by logging into our portal internally. The only mandatory meetings were orientation sessions and optional meetings with our supervisor and industry experts. This was the most flexible part, as we could still attend classes without conflicts. We also learned about NASA’s collaborations with international space agencies and smaller firms like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic. Since we didn’t have to work actual shifts, the company only fired interns with a performance score below 50%. Eligibility was checked after the last day of work, and we received an email notification if we could move forward. They terminated 50 interns so we had 465 interns in the next phase. If selected, we resubmitted our resume to NASA.

In missions 2 and 3, interns must work actual shifts. The second phase is fully remote, but we follow the company’s central and eastern time zone schedule, similar to deadlines. Interns from the west coast still need to wake up early. We work from home 9/10 am to 2 pm PDT, excluding weekends, for a week. Missions 3 and 2 are each a week long, so we don’t work during holidays or finals. The second phase is the most challenging. We’re assigned to a department and broken into five colored sections by a NASA station. We still have the same supervisor and fill out paperwork with our team and do research pertaining to our role. This coincides with quarterly classes, midterms, and breaks. Our company allows us to fill out forms for excuse letters or notes from NASA for our teachers and bosses if we work other jobs. If we still have to attend class and take tests, we can call off with 24 hours’ notice. The only day we can’t call off is the last day of Mission 2, when we present our research report to NASA.

The final hurdle is notification via email and a call from NASA in the meantime after Thanksgiving to before Christmas. Each venue in the country can only accept 50-60 interns, all NASA stations and associated facilities with a grant from NASA. This is mission 3, the in-person part of my hybrid internship. It usually takes place during winter break after New Year’s or summer break before the 4th of July, depending on the tenure. This spans 10-12 locations across the nation. Only two people, including me, from our department got in from the remote portions of our job, which we were relocated to the same facility for. Each facility has interns from various institutions in that region or state. Surprisingly, we had a few East Coast students on our team. We completed this during Christmas break, which was only a week during my two-month break. It was a lot of fun. The activities vary depending on the location. The company provides food, buses, planes, hotel rooms, free swag, and a uniform. You get a certificate of completion for mission 2 and a nicer one for completing all missions on the last shift of mission 3 from your boss.
This is interesting, thanks for the explanation. It seems you have to be very passionate and knowledgeable about engineering to be able to land something like this, especially if there are three rounds. I'm glad you had the opportunity to do this, and I'm sure it'll help you in the future!

Again though, this is not something my college would allow. There is literally a person whose job is to remove all internships that take place during the academic year from Handshake, or otherwise prevent students from applying. Their reasoning being that the primary role of a student is... a student. I think semester internships are great, but I also understand why the rules are in place. In a way, I'm glad they are.
 
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I have a huge stack of books (see attached image) from the Soviet Literature class I ended up dropping. I was trying to figure out what to do with them, and I can use them for my Advanced Improvisation class.

Basically, my idea is to take paragraphs from each of these books (no idea yet how I'll choose them, but it needs to, y'know, make sense), have people record themselves reading the paragraphs in English and in another language (thankfully I know many bilingual people), and then make a third recording of a reverse-translation back into English. The idea is that this reverse-translation will be different from the first English recording, and have a different interpretation. Then, I can layer the recordings, add audio post-processing, etc. Since the final project has to have a live performance component, I can do a musical improvisation (probably something inside the piano, on the piano strings, and/or on a synthesizer) over the recording with the layered, mixed together, etc. audio files.

It'd be nice of course also to have the passages read in the original Russian, too. I don't have Russian editions, but I'm sure someone does.

Anyway, that's how I'm going to use these books, I think. Maybe I'll keep them to actually read, but, to be honest, I probably won't.
 

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This is interesting, thanks for the explanation. It seems you have to be very passionate and knowledgeable about engineering to be able to land something like this, especially if there are three rounds. I'm glad you had the opportunity to do this, and I'm sure it'll help you in the future!

Again though, this is not something my college would allow. There is literally a person whose job is to remove all internships that take place during the academic year from Handshake, or otherwise prevent students from applying. Their reasoning being that the primary role of a student is... a student. I think semester internships are great, but I also understand why the rules are in place. In a way, I'm glad they are.
How do they have someone in the career center take down handshake listings? My institution recently started using it and it seems underrated. I only used it for events that my school promotes.

Do they allow students to apply to internships outside during the year?
 
How do they have someone in the career center take down handshake listings? My institution recently started using it and it seems underrated. I only used it for events that my school promotes.

Do they allow students to apply to internships outside during the year?
Sorry, I should have been more clear: they remove the listings from the college's curated list. Obviously they can't remove it from Handshake altogether.

Handshake is absolutely wonderful, I've found a lot of great stuff on there. I would highly recommend using it. There seem to be lots of good engineering things on there. About once a month, I go on there and see what new jobs I might be interested in applying for. Usually there's 4-5. Sometimes I get an interview/offer. I was really close to accepting one of the offers back in November for a summer position, but decided against it after careful consideration for a number of reasons. But it was a good job.

If I'm understanding what you mean by "outside internships" correctly, then yes. Students can apply - and are encouraged to do so - to any number of programs held throughout the summer. All of that's open. The career center also has a list of internships funded by the college - so the college will pay for travel, housing, etc. IN SOME CASES (not all the time) if the company doesn't. The only restriction is that you cannot apply to programs held during the year, that's pretty much it.

One thing (of many, many things) I love about this college is the fact that everything is so personalized and inclusive. Admissions tours are personalized (which I have been on both ends of - when I applied, and now that I'm working in the office). Don't like the pre-designed tour route? They will adapt the tour to what you want to see. I've taken prospective students to lunch, too—that's a thing. Majors and programs are personalized. One of the existing majors doesn't fit your bill? Design your own. Course catalog doesn't include a class you want? Design your own independent study with a professor. Are you NOT a musician/conservatory student and still want to sing in choir (or perform in any ensemble, for that matter)? You can. Of course subject to audition placement, but you are still in an ensemble. Everyone knows your name (and probably your middle initial, which is included in email addresses). It goes on, and on, and on, and on. There are so many other examples. I love it.
 
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Sorry, I should have been more clear: they remove the listings from the college's curated list. Obviously they can't remove it from Handshake altogether.

Handshake is absolutely wonderful, I've found a lot of great stuff on there. I would highly recommend using it. There seem to be lots of good engineering things on there. About once a month, I go on there and see what new jobs I might be interested in applying for. Usually there's 4-5. Sometimes I get an interview/offer. I was really close to accepting one of the offers back in November for a summer position, but decided against it after careful consideration for a number of reasons. But it was a good job.

If I'm understanding what you mean by "outside internships" correctly, then yes. Students can apply - and are encouraged to do so - to any number of programs held throughout the summer. All of that's open. The career center also has a list of internships funded by the college - so the college will pay for travel, housing, etc. IN SOME CASES (not all the time) if the company doesn't. The only restriction is that you cannot apply to programs held during the year, that's pretty much it.

One thing (of many, many things) I love about this college is the fact that everything is so personalized and inclusive. Admissions tours are personalized (which I have been on both ends of - when I applied, and now that I'm working in the office). Don't like the pre-designed tour route? They will adapt the tour to what you want to see. Majors and programs are personalized. One of the existing majors doesn't fit your bill? Design your own. Course catalog doesn't include a class you want? Design your own independent study with a professor. Are you NOT a musician/conservatory student and still want to sing in choir (or perform in any ensemble, for that matter)? You can. Of course subject to audition placement, but you are still in an ensemble. Everyone knows your name (and probably your middle initial, which is included in email addresses). It goes on, and on, and on, and on. There are so many other examples. I love it.
It looks like you can now RSVP to events for school careers without relying on Google or Microsoft forms. Also, it looks like this platform is more streamlined than the one it replaced, Jobspeaker. I muted my emails that automatically recommend jobs that are irrelevant to my field, like healthcare and biotechnology.
 
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I ran out of honey and vanilla tea and I have a two hour meeting/audit on teams which is ideal tea time. No Bueno.
So, yesterday’s Java programming final for my winter bootcamp was a total rollercoaster. I spent almost all my time trying to get it to compile, and I was literally iMessaging my mentor, sending him lots of screenshots of my errors because the compiler was giving me all sorts of errors. It was like a coding battle, and I was determined to win!

But without his help, I was about to give up. I was on the brink of finishing my program, and the heavy rain outside was just adding to the pressure. I was determined to make it happen, and I used that rainy day as my excuse to finish it up. I even drank all of the Starbucks refresher that night, which was a total lifesaver.

I never thought I’d make it through that final, but I did! I submitted my program a few minutes before the midnight deadline, and now it’s officially in the books. I can’t believe I pulled it off, and I’m so grateful for my mentor’s support. He was my rock, and I couldn’t have done it without him.
 
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So, yesterday’s Java programming final for my winter bootcamp was a total rollercoaster. I spent almost all my time trying to get it to compile, and I was literally iMessaging my mentor, sending him lots of screenshots of my errors because the compiler was giving me all sorts of errors. It was like a coding battle, and I was determined to win!

But without his help, I was about to give up. I was on the brink of finishing my program, and the heavy rain outside was just adding to the pressure. I was determined to make it happen, and I used that rainy day as my excuse to finish it up. I even drank all of the Starbucks refresher that night, which was a total lifesaver.

I never thought I’d make it through that final, but I did! I submitted my program a few minutes before the midnight deadline, and now it’s officially in the books. I can’t believe I pulled it off, and I’m so grateful for my mentor’s support. He was my rock, and I couldn’t have done it without him.
Did you try using chatGPT? I find it really helpful for programming solutions.
 
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I have a huge stack of books (see attached image) from the Soviet Literature class I ended up dropping. I was trying to figure out what to do with them, and I can use them for my Advanced Improvisation class.
You had to buy THAT many books, for one class?!? That is flabbergasting to me.

And, if you ever do a recording of your idea in your Advanced Improv class, let me know; I'd love to hear/buy it.
 
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So, yesterday’s Java programming final for my winter bootcamp was a total rollercoaster. I spent almost all my time trying to get it to compile, and I was literally iMessaging my mentor, sending him lots of screenshots of my errors because the compiler was giving me all sorts of errors. It was like a coding battle, and I was determined to win!

But without his help, I was about to give up. I was on the brink of finishing my program, and the heavy rain outside was just adding to the pressure. I was determined to make it happen, and I used that rainy day as my excuse to finish it up. I even drank all of the Starbucks refresher that night, which was a total lifesaver.

I never thought I’d make it through that final, but I did! I submitted my program a few minutes before the midnight deadline, and now it’s officially in the books. I can’t believe I pulled it off, and I’m so grateful for my mentor’s support. He was my rock, and I couldn’t have done it without him.

I once had a fortran program that wouldn't compile. Comment out the line, it worked. Put it back, fail.
Tried it on a different computer - compiled and worked perfectly. The line was good.
It turned out to be a subtly corrupted RAM chip (this was when RAM came in 16 pin DIP chips).

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Chip was replaced, all was good.
 
Did you try using chatGPT? I find it really helpful for programming solutions.
I tried it, but I didn’t overdo it because there are limits to the number of files and prompts you can send for free. My IDE, Visual Studio, has a built-in Copilot pair programmer since the last few updates. It’s the same as the other one, but since it’s an IDE run by Microsoft, they use their Copilot app instead. That one has fewer restrictions and makes it easier for me to use my Java classes and C++ files on it because it uses the projects you’re working on in the IDE. You just have to sign up with your free GitHub account to use it. That one is really fast and accurate. I make changes to the comments, strings like the name of the program or the data containing the array of hotel rooms, and add a little bit of fun. I only use it when I need to check errors, get some ideas 💡 and fix them instead of using the Ctrl or Command-F keystroke to find the line causing the problem.

That’s the part that really saved me time, along with consistent communication with my mentor and my Java teacher. I apologized to my mentor, a huge Apple fan with a MBP, AWU, and a Space Black iPhone 14PM, for filling up his iPhone with notifications from all those iMessages asking for help. But he’s always willing to help because he was also part of my NASA work trip as a supervisor. He knows that, as a freelancer iOS developer with dual software engineering and data science graduate degrees, some developers, no matter how experienced or how big the project is, can run into crazy challenges. Hope my Java teacher gives me a good grade on it, she has been generous and also did extra credit sweepstakes for virtual gift cards 💳

And I saw someone here share a similar story to me below 👇
I once had a fortran program that wouldn't compile. Comment out the line, it worked. Put it back, fail.
Tried it on a different computer - compiled and worked perfectly. The line was good.
It turned out to be a subtly corrupted RAM chip (this was when RAM came in 16 pin DIP chips).

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Chip was replaced, all was good.
Even with faulty hardware, it’s worse! I commented out code in my first computer science class two years ago and in my recent Java capstone final project. Back then, I learned to comment out lines instead of using breakpoints. In Java, they tell you a specific line causing issues when you compile it. Which IDE did you use for Fortran? It’s an old programming language before C++, Java, and JavaScript.

During my internship, I encountered problems building my rover with my department and programming the sensors using block code (LEGO SPIKE). The UV light sensor code detected certain colors and elements, but the rover gave false positives. After the rover rock retrieval trials, we realized that one of the ribbon cables dragged the floor and was detected as a white object. My department won the rover rescue mission by putting separate directions in the computing module and facing the cables up instead of around the rover body.
 
Really enjoying my time up here! Everything has been so fun and fulfilling, and such wonderful people. The nature is beautiful, too, even in the middle of winter. I stood on frozen Lake Michigan this morning—never done that! Sad I have to go home (well, back to campus) tomorrow. As one of my professors put it: "When you go up [here], you won't want to leave." That's maximally accurate!
 
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I once had a fortran program that wouldn't compile. Comment out the line, it worked. Put it back, fail.
Tried it on a different computer - compiled and worked perfectly. The line was good.
It turned out to be a subtly corrupted RAM chip (this was when RAM came in 16 pin DIP chips).

View attachment 2482333

Chip was replaced, all was good.

Follow up.

There was a special tool to remove these chips.
I didn't have one.
So, I winkled it out by grabbing between thumb and forefinger, and it slowly eased out.
Till, it suddenly came loose, rotated, and embedded all sixteen (count 16) pins in my thumb.
It went in so suddenly, it didn't hurt.
But I sat there, looking at this thing embedded in my thumb, knowing that pulling it out was going to hurt like hell.
I did, and it did.

Lesson -- get the right g*dd*m tool for the g*dd*m job. It will save you lots of pain and blood.
 
Having upgraded to a new M4 Mac Mini, some of my old drives are frustratingly slow.
Case in point - my WD MyCloud NAS. I could only read/write files at 30 MB/s, despite it benchmarking at my network speed of 100 MB/s.
So I decided to repurpose it into a normal drive and attach it to my RPi 4 File server, which gives me R/W speed of 100 MB/s.
So, I needed to pull it apart and put the drive into an normal case.
For which I needed a 2 mm hex key.
So, off to the hardware store to get the cheapest set of keys ($3AU ~ $2US). All is good.
However, while there, my beloved goes to the battery powered tools aisle, looking for a compact, battery-powered chainsaw.
Should I be on my best behaviour?
 
Having upgraded to a new M4 Mac Mini, some of my old drives are frustratingly slow.
Case in point - my WD MyCloud NAS. I could only read/write files at 30 MB/s, despite it benchmarking at my network speed of 100 MB/s.
So I decided to repurpose it into a normal drive and attach it to my RPi 4 File server, which gives me R/W speed of 100 MB/s.
So, I needed to pull it apart and put the drive into an normal case.
For which I needed a 2 mm hex key.
So, off to the hardware store to get the cheapest set of keys ($3AU ~ $2US). All is good.
However, while there, my beloved goes to the battery powered tools aisle, looking for a compact, battery-powered chainsaw.
Should I be on my best behaviour?
Fess up, what did you do?
 
I don't understand the karma requirement of Reddit as well as the age of the account. Why do you have to wait a certain number of days and gain a certain number of karma before you can post? How can you gain karma when you can't even post? It's like you are not getting hired because you have no experience but you cannot gain any experience when no one is hiring you.
 
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