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Native Apple silicon support is not conflicted with Electron however. Discord, natively supporting Apple silicon, is an Electron app but not really bloated.
I have a 16GB M1 Pro MBP and Discord makes it noticeably slower. I respectfully beg to differ!
 
I am trying the new beta app now, and damn it's quick! Launches way faster from cold and chat scrolling is much more fluid. Also ram usage is minimal at around 400 MB which is a huge improvement when compared to old electron app (used like 1-1.5 GB of ram at times). Will test the battery drain for sure!
 
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What's App eats around 1GB so this is a welcome change.

Both What's App and Messenger need native apps asap, it's the only ones remaining for me.
 
Sorry you can't the app store does not allow it, well it is to different OSes so fair emugh, ok they might share a lot of code but as the names IOS and IpadOS indicate their developer considers them different products
I'm asking because that's something you can actually do - to download iPhone apps into iPad.
 
I've been running an Apple Silicon version of WhatsApp on my Mac for months. I use nativefier to generate a WhatsApp web app which runs natively. I have also used Web Catalog. Both these apps use Electron. I am not aware of any bloat. It's much leaner than the current Intel version of WhatsApp running through Rosetta.
 
Al my friends and family use this awful app , can’t think why

Much prefer iMessage in every way
iMessage is a weird beast because it has a lot of advanced features while also having several issues with basic UI design, so I often find myself needing to work around annoyances vs pretty much every other messaging app having more standard and straight forward designs. Examples:

- You have to copy an entire message instead of just the part you need.
- replies are confusing and doesn't support hotlinking to the original message.
- it only has global search instead of conversation specific search.
- and why can't you just add non photo/video attachments right from imessage? They literally have a system API for it that the other apps are using.
 
I agree about attaching photos in iMessage especially when in full screen mode on the Mac , that’s a bit of a nightmare tbh
 
I use it a lot and didn’t even know that it wasn’t native. Rosetta is sooooooooooo good on Apple Silicon. Apple definitely hit the ball out the park with this one!
I can do absurd ammounts of tasks on my 8gb mini, but as soon as I open the whatssap app, it takes basically most of my ram.
 
End-to-end is end-to-end. Meaning nobody in the middle can see the chats other than you and the other person. And now, even the Google backups can be encrypted (previously they are not). As much as I hate Meta/FB, I appreciate whatsapp for their efforts in implementing encryption.

oi... You missed the point. On each end sits the app and that is still in between you and the praised end-to-end encrypted line. So unless you yourself can write encrypted texts, the app itself is perfectly able to datamine your messages and send the results along other connections the app makes. That kind of code isn't easy to spot by regular app review.
Its all about trust, and Meta has not done that much to be trusted.

For anyone... take a look at this list.
 
WhatsApp uses Signal Protocol, and Signal fans claim it is the safest unlike Telegram.
The client trusts Facebook's server to give the correct identity (public key) for others, allowing mitm attacks by Facebook. This is an unavoidable weakness with e2ee when clients aren't handling the identity exchange out-of-band. Likewise with Signal. You also don't know what the client is really doing. Maybe it shares something for advertising, probably not the actual texts.
 
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Blows my mind how such a big company can write such a bad app. Whatsapp for Desktop is terrible resource hog
It needs to update like every 2 days, so I close it before I even see how many resources it uses. How does an Electron app not just update itself like Discord?
 
iMessage is a weird beast because it has a lot of advanced features while also having several issues with basic UI design, so I often find myself needing to work around annoyances vs pretty much every other messaging app having more standard and straight forward designs. Examples:

- You have to copy an entire message instead of just the part you need.
- replies are confusing and doesn't support hotlinking to the original message.
- it only has global search instead of conversation specific search.
- and why can't you just add non photo/video attachments right from imessage? They literally have a system API for it that the other apps are using.
The iMessage/Messages search is so insanely broken. Related, FaceTime has a nice simple UI but works horribly. Somehow it's always bad quality or disconnecting or something. I end up regular calling people instead. WhatsApp audio, Zoom, Discord, etc work reliably.
 
The client trusts Facebook's server to give the correct identity (public key) for others, allowing mitm attacks by Facebook. This is an unavoidable weakness with e2ee when clients aren't handling the identity exchange out-of-band. Likewise with Signal. You also don't know what the client is really doing. Maybe it shares something for advertising, probably not the actual texts.
Here is what FBI analysed about the IM softwares.

 
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Can’t wait for macOS to get back down to its normal size when they drop the universal binary version. :rolleyes:

Back in the days of mechanical limited harddrives, PowerPC and Intel CPU's you could shave off some of the app size with XSlimmer (discontinued). It accellerated things significantly on Macs at the time. Today with (larger) SSD's slimming all apps doesn't make that much of a difference anymore.
 
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