When do you think Mac OS Big Sur will be released?

[honestone33]

homebrew (see brew.sh) is often mentioned as "the app store for the command line". It has no GUI and is entirely based on terminal commands. Its origin is as a central easy-to-use means to keep all command line tools up to date, but later on they also included GUI-based tools as so-called "casks" (for example Onyx can also be installed as a cask via homebrew). Keeping all tools up to date is indeed easy: one single command "brew upgrade" enables a batch run which updates all of the tools you installed via homebrew to their most current versions.

BTW, the bug in Apple Mail (not being able to move emails into iCloud IMAP Folders) re-appeared. Easy to temporarily fix again via Onyx, but it looks like this is still a persisting bug in Catalina 10.15.7.

Thanks for the explanation. I'll just stick with the way I am doing it.

Also, sure is perplexing that an Apple program, Mail, and a critical one at that, would still have issues. One would think Apple could fix that. But I decided a long, long time ago not to use Apple's Mail program, as problems seem to exist with it no matter which mac OS one is using. Thunderbird, while not as "sexy" looking, works flawlessly.

 

[skippermonkey]

I've had more screen freezes and hard reboots with this 10-month old Mac Pro and Catalina than I did in maybe five years with my old Mac Pro on Mojave/Yosemite. I hope Big Sur is better, because I sure as hell can't take worse.

 

[honestone33]

I've had more screen freezes and hard reboots with this 10-month old Mac Pro and Catalina than I did in maybe five years with my old Mac Pro on Mojave/Yosemite. I hope Big Sur is better, because I sure as hell can't take worse.

You might want to think about doing some disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs on your Mac. Besides your own efforts, Onyx and Tech Tool Pro are two excellent products that can help you. I use them both.

Also, are all your third party applications up to date?

 

[chabig]

So just pick a date out of the air, with nothing factual to back it up? Yeah right!

That's exactly what this thread is about.

 

[honestone33]

That's exactly what this thread is about.

But one would think picking a date is based on some facts, not just "plucking" something out of the air.

If that were the case, I'm sure people would laugh at me if I said December 25th (Christmas Day). And that would be based on nothing at all.

 

[LeeW]

To be fair I have had zero issues so far on the Public Beta version, although I know of outstanding issues. I can't imagine it is too far away.

 

[honestone33]

To be fair I have had zero issues so far on the Public Beta version, although I know of outstanding issues. I can't imagine it is too far away.

As I have mentioned before, I will not move to Big Sur until all the third party applications I use are compatible with it. But that's certainly encouraging that you are not having issues.

And yes, I also would think the release of the first true version, V11.0, is not far away, based on what I am reading. If I were to pick a time frame, it would be the last week of October, give or take a few days.

 

[chabig]

I'm sure people would laugh at me if...

Not me. Threads like these are pure entertainment. Nobody knows anything.

 

[Yebubbleman]

I could see them releasing it this month, with the Apple Silicon Macs to follow with it shortly thereafter. Hell, 11.0.1 could even be the first shipping version of macOS on Apple Silicon; that's totally within the realm of possibility (especially since the last architecture transition had the first shipping release of Mac OS X Tiger on the new release as being three point releases newer than what was originally provided on the Intel DTK). The only certainty is that Apple Silicon Macs won't have Catalina and that we're not seeing any of them release before Big Sur releases for Intel Macs.

 

[ghboard2010]

I think that this time around, it's important from the standpoint of Apple Silicon Mac availability. Otherwise, I'm finding the current Big Sur Public Beta to be more stable than the current macOS Catalina release (though, I recognize that the bar is set VERY low there).

As my current machine is an iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), I will stay on Catalina island 'til at least the fourth iteration of BS. If 'my ship comes in' I may set sail for Big Sur on shiny new AS iMac. 🤑

 

[skippermonkey]

You might want to think about doing some disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs on your Mac. Besides your own efforts, Onyx and Tech Tool Pro are two excellent products that can help you. I use them both.

Also, are all your third party applications up to date?

Yeah, I'm a bit OCD about app updates, and my drives are all fine. I think it's mainly due to GPU drivers. I'm running a pair of RX5700 XTs, and most crashes come from GPU-intensive tasks, which seems to confuse the OS.

 

[iOS Geek]

I just got an app update for Forecast Bar. The new icon is square (as opposed to the circular one it had). Nothing about Big Sur was specifically mentioned in the notes (but they did make note of the updated app icon). I can't speak for stability since I'm not on the beta, but I'd guess release is coming sooner rather than later.

 

[Marx55]

Two weeks after 13th October 2020 event. As well as ARM-based Apple Silicon Macs announcement in new event.

 

[honestone33]

Not me. Threads like these are pure entertainment. Nobody knows anything.

Well, Big Sur was not released today. Next prediction?

 

[Benz63amg]

Do you guys think Apple will release it today after the event?

 

[leman]

No. Why would they release it after an iPhone event?

 

[Benz63amg]

No. Why would they release it after an iPhone event?

Isn’t it due to be released anytime soon? It’s been so long Big Sur has been in public beta

 

[leman]

Isn’t it due to be released anytime soon? It’s been so long Big Sur has been in public beta

We still don't have the Golden Master and the Developer Beta is currently at beta 9. Apple usually goes through at least 10 beta versions before the Golden Master.

I am fairly sure that Big Sure will be out after the Mac event in November together with Apple Silicon Macs. It will give us 2-3 weeks of beta 10 + 1-2 weeks of Golden Master with the event in mid November.

 

[chrfr]

Well, Big Sur was not released today. Next prediction?

It's 6am in California, if Big Sur were to be released today, it wouldn't happen for several hours, and certainly not before the iPhone presentation at 10am Pacific time.

 

[leman]

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[ghost82]

together with Apple Silicon Macs

100% agree!
And we should see (and I hope so, maybe today?) a beta 10 soon.

 

[cflem]

I think we see the Big Sur GM today...

 

[cleanton]

It's coming in a couple of hours.

 

[ghostface147]

No Big Sur GM today I guess. Maybe a new beta? I can't even run a time machine backup of it. Always errors out when preparing backup.

 

[halofan56]

No. Why would they release it after an iPhone event?

It made everyone watched it.