Yea, apologies to @ArPe , but the more recent post indicates that they seem to thing GM's are on the longer side of the gap than the modern, nearer side of the gap.
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When do you think Mac OS Big Sur will be released?
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Yea, apologies to @ArPe , but the more recent post indicates that they seem to thing GM's are on the longer side of the gap than the modern, nearer side of the gap.
OK, wonder when V11.0 will be released?
For Catalina, here was the time line:
Beta 10 - September 30, 2019: https://9to5mac.com/2019/09/30/macos-catalina-beta-10/
Beta 11 - October 3, 2019: https://mrmacintosh.com/whats-new-in-macos-catalina-10-15-gm-seed-1-beta-11-19a582a/
First "real" (ie, non-beta) version - V10.15.0, October 7. 2019
First Supplemental Update to V10.15.0 - October 15, 2019
Revised Supplemental Update to V10.15.0 - October 21, 2019
So, Beta 10 lends more credibility that we're not getting Big Sur in October, and more likely mid November, as I have been saying.
FYI: I don't mind being wrong, if it comes out sooner. Just trying to have a realistic expectation, based on current evidence, trends, personal knowledge, etc.
FYI: I don't mind being wrong, if it comes out sooner. Just trying to have a realistic expectation, based on current evidence, trends, personal knowledge, etc.
It’s def going to be nov, we going to get at least another beta 11 and then GM and we will go from there. So another 2 weeks prob for another beta release easily to squash major issues and GM for new Laptops and iMacs etc etc
Why is everyone comparing the release of Big Sur to the release of Catalina? Has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Catalina came out as quick as it did and according to a lot of folks it was such a horrible release Apple should've gone through a couple GMs to make sure it was right. Sometimes things pop up and they need to be fixed. A GM is a 'release candidate' just like any other one. Its not final until people stop sending in bug reports (and we wait to find new ones that pop up with every random combination of hardware and software out there).
I take it none of you ever beta tested a Microsoft OS. Those usually go through a couple release candidates at least before they call them done.
I take it none of you ever beta tested a Microsoft OS. Those usually go through a couple release candidates at least before they call them done.
I was just showing a timeline for Catalina. Not necessarily a comparison, but something to possibly consider.
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Honestly, I have a feeling that 11.0.0 will be more stable than 10.15.4 ever was. It already is less finnicky than 10.15.7 on Beta 9. Beta 10 likely improves things on top of that.
The prediction was never that it'd be released in October; merely announced. Though, that didn't come to pass, so I'm guessing November.
Actually, the installer DOESN'T need to support all platforms. Any Apple Silicon Mac running Big Sur will have its own recovery partition and "System Recovery" image. Up until there is a common version out for both architectures. So, if 11.0 or 11.0.1 is the first version released for Apple Silcon Macs, then whichever build comes next will be the one that comes with a universal installer. Then again, they could just do what they did with Tiger and just have two versions of everything (point release updates and security updates thereafter included) until the next major release of macOS where they make everything universal until the point at which it's Apple Silicon only.
Whilst I agree with the rest of your post, I'm quite sure they don't wait until the bug reports stop.
They release when what they consider to be the SHOWSTOPPER bug reports have been fixed.
There's plenty of bugs in macOS when it is released, for every version. If they waited for all the bugs to be resolved, we'd still be waiting for 10.0.
Most likely it will be released next Monday or Tuesday, now that the 10th Beta was released on 10/14....
no way. Too soon. Still stciking with either the last week of October, or shortly after Apple's Silicon Event.
It doesn't matter of the Apple Silicons, they can be updated when they are released on future updates. They come preinstalled with update needed. Apple, I don't believe, will sit on a Public Release for that long of period. We'll see.
Apple have release dates set in mind for GMs & Public Releases of major OS versions (and certain point releases), tied into events/hardware releases. On iOS alone, they have had releases that have been held for up to a month between the last beta and GM, and GM to Devs/PB tend to have a week gap usually (source ThinkyBits iOS Version History, wish they did MacOS to help us out).
I only thing that makes this upcoming osMAC is the new 2020 iMacs and MacBook Pros to be released. In the past, the last beta and the General Release usually are within a week. If Beta !0 is the last beta.
I'm not a beta tester, so we'll have to see how long it takes....the longer, the better.