When I think about it, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone

[Night Spring]

I know your just trying to make an example but i must say the Nexus 4's screen is actually really good apart from the poor calibration out of the box, once calibrated (need to be rooted and custom kernel) it matches the iP5's screen in every area, only the HTC One has a better screen imo. Furthermore i have a Nexus 4 and i would like to know where this lag is??? Mine is butter smooth throughout the entire OS compared to the iP5 i have sitting next to it right now

Once calibrated? And you need to root and install custom kernel before you can calibstr? For the majority -- I'd guess at least 90% -- of end users, that's not a realistic option. As far as they are concerned, Nexus screen is inferior to iPhone, end of story.

 

[thehustleman]

I'm pretty sure I was the one who had this discussion with him before....I wouldn't bother.....

People who make over reaching generalizations like that don't tend to care about details....especially when those details or facts get in the way of their agenda.

I tested out his claims and found no lag time when switching between apps - and I would go right back to where I was in the app I was using previously. I just don't have time to post videos at work.

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I already proved the lag is there.

You can't argue with fact and video because it was there.

It does lag, it's proven when you go back to apps, so please say you don't care about it but don't say it doesn't lag

 

[jrswizzle]

Not true, I've proven this before. I will again if I must

Be my guest - I just spent the last 30 seconds effortlessly switching between apps with the switch happening instantly and bringing me right back to where I was in the app.

Of course switching to a content service like Facebook will then load up newer content that became available while you were gone but like I said:

(1) The load time depends on you network connection
(2) Why would I want Facebook to update behind the scenes when I'm not looking at it at the expense of battery and internet bandwidth. Think if ALL content apps you had running were constantly auto-updating - I don't think even Android does this.

EDIT: BTW, just tested it on my HTC One and it too will load new content which takes a second (depending on network speed). Between the two, there really isn't any noticeable difference in app switching.

 

[Night Spring]

Not true, I've proven this before. I will again if I must

Even if you can prove it, it doesn't matter. Some people are willing to put up with lags in exchange for longer battery life. In order to convince those people, you'd have to prove that Android has no lag AND this doesn't negatively affect battery life.

 

[jrswizzle]

I know your just trying to make an example but i must say the Nexus 4's screen is actually really good apart from the poor calibration out of the box, once calibrated (need to be rooted and custom kernel) it matches the iP5's screen in every area, only the HTC One has a better screen imo. Furthermore i have a Nexus 4 and i would like to know where this lag is??? Mine is butter smooth throughout the entire OS compared to the iP5 i have sitting next to it right now

So I would need to root and re-calibrate my N4 screen to match my iPhone 5's quality which was as such right out of the box.......

No thanks.

And the One's display is absolutely GORGEOUS. But IMO, not terribly more advanced than the iP5. I had to look at both side-by-side to tell the difference.

Some of the lag has to do with my gestures in Nova Launcher, swiping up to access settings takes a sec or two for the swipe to register. Happens within apps as well (can sometime be attributed to the app/dev though).

Since I've gotten the One, I haven't been using the N4, but overall its just hitches here and there. I'm not saying its laggy or buggy. Just not immediately responsive 100% of the time like my iP5 or HTC One are.

 

[2298754]

That list is a joke. Some of those devices don't belong on there (ie the LG Optimus G and Nexus 4). And iPhone5 is still top 10

My rankings

1. Galaxy S4
2. HTC One
3. Galaxy Note 2
4. iPhone 5
5. RAZR HD Maxx
6. Galaxy S3
7. Optimus G Pro
8. XPERIA Z
9. Lumia 920/925/928
10. BB Z10

 

[Tig Bitties]

That list is a joke. Some of those devices don't belong on there (ie the LG Optimus G and Nexus 4). And iPhone5 is still top 10

My rankings

LOL, no way. You didn't even list the Nexus 4 in the top 10 Pure stock vanilla Android are the best phones in our solar system.

This is the true, no BS real list. End of thread;

1. Galaxy S4-Nexus "Google Edition"
2. Nexus 4
3. Galaxy Note 2
4. HTC One
5. Galaxy S4 Touchwiz version
6. Nokia Lumia 920
7. iPhone 5 (Jailbreaked only )
8. XPERIA Z
9. Droid DNA
10. RAZR HD Maxx

 

[thehustleman]

LOL, no way. You didn't even list the Nexus 4 in the top 10 Pure stock vanilla Android are the best phones in our solar system.

This is the true, no BS real list. End of thread;

1. Galaxy S4-Nexus "Google Edition"
2. Nexus 4
3. Galaxy Note 2
4. HTC One
5. Galaxy S4 Touchwiz version
6. Nokia Lumia 920
7. iPhone 5 (Jailbreaked only )
8. XPERIA Z
9. Droid DNA
10. RAZR HD Maxx

The Google edition s4 is a waste.

It doesn't even feature the features Samsung is advertising and is less functional than the regular one and triple the out of pocket price

 

[2298754]

LOL, no way. You didn't even list the Nexus 4 in the top 10 Pure stock vanilla Android are the best phones in our solar system.

If you've actually owned a Nexus 4, you'll realize it is a completely mediocre device. Poor display, RF, battery life, etc.

 

[Peterg2]

The Google edition s4 is a waste.

It doesn't even feature the features Samsung is advertising and is less functional than the regular one and triple the out of pocket price

You cannot compare a "subsidized" phone price, requiring a 2 year contract (in Canada 3 years), with a phone which is yours from the get-go, is carrier unlocked and which you can use on any carrier (subject, of course, to it having the required radios and bands) and with which you can go month-to-month.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The S4 TW and Google edition is the same freaking phone. Many (like myself) like TW and have no problems with it, while others prefer stock Android. The S4 should be on top for the choice of having either.

 

[sentinelsx]

The Google edition s4 is a waste.

It doesn't even feature the features Samsung is advertising and is less functional than the regular one and triple the out of pocket price

Nope. I don't want air BS. I do like the LTE, storage expansion, and most importantly, the CAMERA.

The TW version is also $650 non contract.

 

[jrswizzle]

If you've actually owned a Nexus 4, you'll realize it is a completely mediocre device. Poor display, RF, battery life, etc.

I wouldn't call it mediocre.....ranked it above the iPhone 4S but below the One, iP5 and GS4 Google edition.

Display isn't that bad, batter life was actually pretty good after the update and best of all it runs vanilla Android.

 

[0000757]

While I don't care for iOS, I think you're being a bit unfair there. Yea iOS is behind and getting stale, but I don't think it's THAT bad.



Source?

The iPhone is the #1 selling phone in the US, is probably what he's saying.

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I wouldn't call it mediocre.....ranked it above the iPhone 4S but below the One, iP5 and GS4 Google edition.

Display isn't that bad, batter life was actually pretty good after the update and best of all it runs vanilla Android.

The only achievement I'd give the Nexus 4 is the fact that it runs vanilla android.

I was highly disappointed with the Nexus 4. The Galaxy Nexus was much better in the terms of what it had to offer when it came out. The Nexus 4 for me just felt like a generic mid-lowend smartphone. The 4S easily came out above it.

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If I had to make a top 10 list of smartphones (for Spring 2013), I'd have to make it like this:

• HTC One
• Nokia Lumia 928
• iPhone 5
• HTC 8X
• Blackberry Z10
• Asus PadPhone Infinity
• HTC Butterfly J/Droid DNA
• Nokia Lumia 925
• HTC First
• Samsung ATIV Odyssey

 

[Tig Bitties]

If you've actually owned a Nexus 4, you'll realize it is a completely mediocre device. Poor display, RF, battery life, etc.

Actually the Nexus 4, is my daily phone. Rooted running the official CM10.1 ROM, with Matr1x kernel, that calibrates the screen, to look night and day much better than stock. Once the screen is calibrated, it looks very good, better than my old HTC One X, and better than my old Note 2.

I get 5h On Screen time, and over 15h - 16h battery life per day on heavy use.

 

[JustJeff]

So you are implying that most Apple Fanbois are JWs ?

I'm implying that both Apple and Android fanbois are

 

[torana355]

So I would need to root and re-calibrate my N4 screen to match my iPhone 5's quality which was as such right out of the box.......

No thanks.

I was just making a point that the physical screen itself is actually quite good. Its a pity its not calibrated well like the Optimus G is out of the box.

 

[thehustleman]

You cannot compare a "subsidized" phone price, requiring a 2 year contract (in Canada 3 years), with a phone which is yours from the get-go, is carrier unlocked and which you can use on any carrier (subject, of course, to it having the required radios and bands) and with which you can go month-to-month.

I can and did.

Yes it comes without the contract and over the life of the phone is cheaper, but it's still a higher upfront cost which will push away many buyers

 

[torana355]

Some of the lag has to do with my gestures in Nova Launcher, swiping up to access settings takes a sec or two for the swipe to register. Happens within apps as well (can sometime be attributed to the app/dev though).

Since I've gotten the One, I haven't been using the N4, but overall its just hitches here and there. I'm not saying its laggy or buggy. Just not immediately responsive 100% of the time like my iP5 or HTC One are.

Look im also running Nova and i must say i have none of the issues you are having with lag or responsiveness, (perhaps you have a bad unit?), ive used the HTC One and find it less fluid due to Sense slowing things down. You will find the Nexus 4 is actually is smoothest Android experience you can get till the S4 Google edition hits the streets

 

[onthecouchagain]

Nova on the One is unbelievably smooth and responsive. I have yet to experience a legitimate hiccup or crash of any sort.

 

[2298754]

I was just making a point that the physical screen itself is actually quite good. Its a pity its not calibrated well like the Optimus G is out of the box.

Valid point. I've had both and the G has a better calibrated display by far. However, too bad they both exhibited poor RF and battery life. I actually liked the LG overlay

 

[sentinelsx]

Actually the Nexus 4, is my daily phone. Rooted running the official CM10.1 ROM, with Matr1x kernel, that calibrates the screen, to look night and day much better than stock. Once the screen is calibrated, it looks very good, better than my old HTC One X, and better than my old Note 2.

I get 5h On Screen time, and over 15h - 16h battery life per day on heavy use.

Nice.

Too bad I am really thinking of buying the one, especially that 64gb version.

Just worried if htc tanks, my phone will be of little value if I ever want to sell it. And no support too. The nexus seems like a safer bet but storage, camera are big points of the one.

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[torana355]

Nova on the One is unbelievably smooth and responsive. I have yet to experience a legitimate hiccup or crash of any sort.

At a guess it would be smoother then the stock Sense launcher?

 

[onthecouchagain]

At a guess it would be smoother then the stock Sense launcher?

Don't know. I only used Sense for a couple of days. It was extremely smooth too.

 

[appletoandroid]

LOL, no way. You didn't even list the Nexus 4 in the top 10 Pure stock vanilla Android are the best phones in our solar system.

Ok, no more iOS and Android comparisons from me. But this statement is entirely false. Touchwiz has way more features than stock android, thus making it way more capable and better than stock.