Ah, one of the actual good sides to Android, the ability to customize many things. They really should have the saturation set at something lower by default (at least I think) because the default makes colors look terrible.
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Ah, one of the actual good sides to Android, the ability to customize many things. They really should have the saturation set at something lower by default (at least I think) because the default makes colors look terrible.
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By nature, OLED has better viewing angles much in the same way plasma did over LCD. IPS panels do a better job but no comparison still.
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This strategy is no different from when LCD was introduced to the display market. High color temps (excessive blue) with overly bright displays performed well in bright show rooms floors to attract consumers. It's all about that WOW factor.
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Ignore him. He found an article for 2001 which spoke to shortcomings of OLED which basically spoke to the inefficiencies of the blue sub-pixel which had a very short lifespan.
I think that Steve Jobs reality distortion field has sucked you in. You've literally been blinded by it.
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LCD's aren't going away. In fact, LCD's are integrating Quantum Dots into the displays and creating a screen that has even more accurate colors, vibrancy and lower power output. QDHD is the new display tech I see Apple moving to.
Link: http://www.laserfocusworld.com/articles/print/volume-50/issue-04/features/advances-in-displays-quantum-dot-film-lets-lcds-express-50-more-color.html
I prefer the more natural look of the LCD'S for now however that doesn't mean that LCD will always be the best. I was pretty impressed by the Note 4 display.
Accuracy has nothing to do with tech type and everything to do with engineering. The only aspect of IQ determined by tech is contrast and resolution in motion.
I don't see why they should. Although I do prefer Oled it's nice to have a bit of variety in screen tech and some people find Oled too vivid and prefer the more natural colours of LCD. I know you can adjust the settings on Galaxy devices to make the colours more life like but even then people still prefer LCD.
Too costly for Apple to switch to OLED even though it fixes all the iPad/iPhone LCD issues with backlight bleed, yellowing, book spining, bad pixels, pressure distortion, uniformity issues, etc. since it's more costly and will affect their profit margin and Apple consumers aren't informed of the advantages.
I actually have a perfect Air 2 and a 6 plus with none of those issues, nice try though
Not everybody is keen on OLED and for me I would rather Apple pursue an alternative or develop their already great screens. You say they are superior but that is a matter of opinion.
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Apples consumers have the same access to information as anybody else. This isn't North Korea where information can only be heard from one source. None of my devices have the problems you've listed so perhaps you are guilty of spreading misinformation by exaggerating the complaints of a few?
If there was a widespread fundamental issue with Apples LCD's then we'd hear far more about it. It may well be costly switching to OLED however I don't feel Apple would gain anything by doing so anyway. Change for the sake of change when the current solution is excellent in any case.
All that is is using quantum dots as a backlight. No different than using LEDs as a backlight. They're both just putting lipstick on the LCD pig and delaying its inevitable demise. All the same things we hate about LCDs are still true with these; poor contrast, bleeding of backlight ruining blacks; slow pixel response; slow refresh rate; thick construction; inflexible (unlike OLED which can be made flexible/bendable).
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I'm curious what you mean when you say LCDs colors look more natural? OLED provides MORE of the color gamut than LCD so maybe you're simply used to inferior color quality? OLEDs can be dialed down to produce colors like an LCD but they can produce colors an LCD cannot. Try searching for reviews of the LG OLED TV. Like the one on Youtube by Leo Laporte from Tech TV.
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Actually it's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact (you know the difference hopefully). In all objective aspects that displays are measured on, OLED beats LCD easily.
- Refresh rate
- Pixel response
- Contrast
- Color gamut
- Thinness
- Flexibility
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Your snarky in brackets comment aside, I doubt people can see all those aspects as clear benefits. I couldn't tell which had a scientifically better screen when I viewed both. They both appeared to be good screens even if I preferred the less saturated and vivid LCD. It is a matter of opinion because it's perception and opinion that help sell a device to somebody not a data sheet with impressive terminology.
On paper on some tests I am sure the OLED screen comes out on top, but you can still have a opinion on which you prefer. Out of interest what does 'thinness and flexibility' mean in this context?
Your snarky in brackets comment aside, I doubt people can see all those aspects as clear benefits. I couldn't tell which had a scientifically better screen when I viewed both. They both appeared to be good screens even if I preferred the less saturated and vivid LCD. It is a matter of opinion because it's perception and opinion that help sell a device to somebody not a data sheet with impressive terminology.
On paper on some tests I am sure the OLED screen comes out on top, but you can still have a opinion on which you prefer. Out of interest what does 'thinness and flexibility' mean in this context?
Sorry folks, this sounds like the new 3.5 inches is the perfect screen size BS from devoted Apple users. We know how that ended up. I agree with most, Apple won't sacrifice profit margin to start using the more expensive oled screens. After much of my research before buying my all conquering Note 4, I came close to getting an iPhone. But you quickly realize Apple is about profit margins, and about giving you what they determine as the best user experience, not the best hardware. And as a person that pays for my phones outright, I just couldn't buy into that BS. Why can I buy a device with an incredible higher res and bigger Amoled display with a wacom digitizer for cheaper than your smaller old tech, lower res lcd display? And when you throw in the fact the Note 4 comes with more memory and storage (expandable storage as well), there is simple just no excuse. And this is coming from a previous Samsung basher. One look at my posting history at windows phone central, and you'll see what blind following of a brand looks like. But no more blind following for this guy. I just want my $$$ worth.
I dare you to step into a Best Buy and go look at the Samsung tablet area. Ask them to show the demo area where they have the Galaxy Tab S OLED 10.5 inch model setup side by side with an iPad 9.7 inch. Look at those side by side showing the same images and come back and tell me how good LCD or OLED are. I would put money down as a bet that if you're honest you would recant your statement above and acknowledge the obviously-better image quality that OLED brings. I mean it's not even a close call when they're side by side.
As for flexibility I'm referring to the actual bendable/foldable OLED displays coming up. They can literally be made curved or bendable. Or transparent for that matter. And can be printed onto plastic so they're basically indestructible. No more broken glass or fragile phones.
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You should pass that fanboi opinion along to the myriad of folks who've already reviewed the OLED screens on phones, TVs and tablets and declared them the best displays that have ever existed.
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Firstly I'm not travelling thousands of miles to visit a store I'd never heard of until now to review a tablet screen lol. Seriously though I've had my iPhone 6 side by side with a Galaxy Note 4 and concluded they both have very decent screens. The Samsung is more punchy in the colour department and dare I say slightly over saturated for certain applications. The reality is for me this is no deal breaker. If an OLED screen is slightly better than the LCD screen on my iPhone then so what? I am very happy with what I have got and I don't think Apple need to rush to take on this technology and I already stated that. If this puff piece is what draws people to the Galaxy phones and others that use it, then great, but it's a minor detail IMHO. For me it's about the whole user experience. My last Android phone was a Samsung S3 and I remember people back then trying to suggest the screen on that was better than the iPhone 5 i jumped ship for. I didn't agree back then and appreciate a lot has changed since then but still. I think Apple have improved an already brilliant screen and if the next iPhone has an LCD, you won't find any complaints from me.
Firstly I'm not travelling thousands of miles to visit a store I'd never heard of until now to review a tablet screen lol. Seriously though I've had my iPhone 6 side by side with a Galaxy Note 4 and concluded they both have very decent screens. The Samsung is more punchy in the colour department and dare I say slightly over saturated for certain applications. The reality is for me this is no deal breaker. If an OLED screen is slightly better than the LCD screen on my iPhone then so what? I am very happy with what I have got and I don't think Apple need to rush to take on this technology and I already stated that. If this puff piece is what draws people to the Galaxy phones and others that use it, then great, but it's a minor detail IMHO. For me it's about the whole user experience. My last Android phone was a Samsung S3 and I remember people back then trying to suggest the screen on that was better than the iPhone 5 i jumped ship for. I didn't agree back then and appreciate a lot has changed since then but still. I think Apple have improved an already brilliant screen and if the next iPhone has an LCD, you won't find any complaints from me.
I think Apple have improved an already brilliant screen and if the next iPhone has an LCD, you won't find any complaints from me.
So you're giving Apple credit for the display tech in the iPhone? Real question for you, what tech is Apple responsible for in those displays?
For the use of, not the manufacture. I know full well where they source their components from and who they have paid to develop their tech.
But that's not what you said. You said Apple improved the display. So I'm asking, what did APPLE improve for you to give them the credit? What incredible display innovation did they come up with to improve that display. I'm only asking because I honestly don't know.
If you visit the Apple website you can compare current iPhone models for sale and there is an obvious evolution of the display since the iPhone 5 (sold 5c). Contrast, resolution, dpi has all been slightly improved. The iPhone 6 plus has a marginally better screen than the 6 I am using to name one recent example. Hopefully I've answered your question, although I think you are attempting to back me into a corner to try and make me look silly. That isn't going to work though sunshine, I've been around far too long.
If you visit the Apple website you can compare current iPhone models for sale and there is an obvious evolution of the display since the iPhone 5 (sold 5c). Contrast, resolution, dpi has all been slightly improved. The iPhone 6 plus has a marginally better screen than the 6 I am using to name one recent example. Hopefully I've answered your question, although I think you are attempting to back me into a corner to try and make me look silly. That isn't going to work though sunshine, I've been around far too long.
I'm not sure if you're purposely avoiding to answer my question. I'm asking what did APPLE themselves contribute to that display in terms of innovation and display tech? A rundown of the specs doesn't answer that question. Not sure why you consider that backing you into a corner. If you're getting offended, no offense intended.
I don't know the in's and out's of Apples development team and not many people outside of the company do. I commented on Apples products that they release and said they should be given credit for improving an already great screen. I don't give a toss who actually carried out the design and development. I am commenting as a consumer who appreciates their products. If you are that interested why ask me and not do your own research?
EVERY device maker works with the production lines to tweak the reference design of a component like a display to the desired specs. That is how modern manufacturing is done.
An example of this process is Gorilla Glass. While the end product is always called Gorilla Glass, the material for a given device is tweaked. The gorilla glass in a Galaxy device has a different process and characteristics than a Galaxy Note, or iPhone.
We can't point to exactly what Apple, or Samsung, or anyone else for that matter has done (usually given trade secrets for an excuse) but you can bet your ass that Apple got the exact display they were working towards.
To question that is to not understand how modern manufacturing is done. Infrastructure exists, then is tweaked to exactly what the component purchaser is looking for...assuming they can pay for it.
You're overt thinking it. I don't think you'll find anyone asking who gets the credit for gorilla glass. Credit goes to Corning. End of story. I wouldn't say, the glass on top of the display of my note 4 has amazing scratch resistance. Way to go Samsung! We all know it's all Corning. But using the same mentality of the poster I was exchanging with, it's what he/she would say.
