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iPad When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
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I sometimes find these types of debates strange, for some reason people seem to take the stance of LCD=Apple and AMOLED=Samsung, when they're both display technologies manufactured by different manufacturers and both can use the different tech. It would be like if back in the year 2000 people arguing about how much better CRT is than LCD and that Apple would never switch to LCD on their iMac line. As AMOLED keeps developing, of course one day Apple will switch to that, as that is the future of display tech and has been in development for several years now, and is currently passing LCD in display quality. I think all is needed is for the price to come down and for it to be viable on the scale Apple needs it.
What's even stranger is the mostly negligible real world differences between the displays. Both the iPhone 6+ and the Note 4 have fabulous displays, best in their respective classes. Why people spend inordinate amounts of time debating which one is better is beyond me.
It also gives them a way to save face when they do go OLED on their phones/tablets/computers. People will say "but you said you didn't like OLED" and they can answer "but we've been using OLED already, in the Apple Watch!" like a get out of jail free card.
I think when the case is made financially, technologically and logistically Apple will consider a change.
AMOLED is the only logical display tech for a smartwatch so Apple going that route is not surprising.
AMOLED is the only logical display tech for a smartwatch so Apple going that route is not surprising.
They didn't like previous-gen OLED technology...and rightly so. Outside of deep blacks there was very little incentive to use it.
Huh? Why would they need to "save face"? It's just a display technology, and it's not like it's been stagnant, it's constantly evolving and getting better. I mean did Apple have to "save face" when they switched to flash memory in iPods instead of traditional spinning drive? Or when they switched to SSD in macs? No, it's just the advancement of technology.
When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
Perhaps all products should be unbranded so all the middle men get credit rather than the branding it is under? How ridiculous and I'm a product designer saying that. Sourcing components and funding partners to develop technology is nothing new when creating a product. I don't usually care to know who makes every little bit of what I buy and I think it is a fair stance to give credit to the branding of the desired product whether that is Samsung, Apple, LG or whoever.
Perhaps all products should be unbranded so all the middle men get credit rather than the branding it is under? How ridiculous and I'm a product designer saying that. Sourcing components and funding partners to develop technology is nothing new when creating a product. I don't usually care to know who makes every little bit of what I buy and I think it is a fair stance to give credit to the branding of the desired product whether that is Samsung, Apple, LG or whoever.
I think this is the main issue. LCD is a much cheaper tech and apple's overruling priority is profits.
And Samsung isn't about profit margins with those phony leather backs and fake metal bezels? It's called business. Companies make products to make money, simple as that.
Which one do you stare at most often the back, side or screen? All others are secondary as long as the screen is top notch.
Not my point at all but you are holding the back and sides of the phone more often that you're looking at the screen.
More likely you're holding a plastic case that covers the back and sides so your point is still irrelevant but on second thought if my phone had an inferior LCD screen I would make excuses to look at anything other than the screen.
No.. I haven't used a case on my phone in a long time. The raw metal and sharp bezels feel awesome in the hand. Let's not assume things.
It would be wise to put a case around it since aluminum scatches and dings easily and to maintain resale value when you upgrade to 6S.
AMOLED still burns in, not all panels have the issue but there are a lot that have the issue. Pretty much the same situation as with IPS LCD panels, some have image retention and some don't.
Just flat out saying AMOLED doesn't burn in is a lie.
I lol at that .... Superior blacks and color if done right . I would buy a OLED TV if it didn't cost $3,000
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A good AMOLED panel doesn't ....as I said I have used a Samsung Galaxy s2-4 , note 3 and note 4 and never have burn in . These don't have static bars or anything like you would with nexus devices where there is reports of the nexus 6 having these issues. He nexus 6 has the on screen buttons which stay on there a lot and having those issues . Samsung made devices I don't see the issue as much .
A display should not burn in while displaying a set of on-screen buttons. That means the technology is not mature enough. LCD has its downsides (image retention), but at least that is not permanent. Also, the colors of an LCD do not degrade as fast as on AMOLED displays. And there are LOTS of reports of burn in on Samsung devices.
Let's not forget that AMOLED displays before the Note 4 weren't even that good. The S4-generation AMOLED display (used on Nexus 6, Moto X 2014, S4 etc.) is not as good as a good IPS LCD panel. And don't even get me started about that horrible Pentile layout. On my Moto X with a 1080p display it was clearly visible.
I do like the blacks of AMOLED displays, no LCD can beat that. I'll admit that.
Let's not forget that AMOLED displays before the Note 4 weren't even that good. The S4-generation AMOLED display (used on Nexus 6, Moto X 2014, S4 etc.) is not as good as a good IPS LCD panel. And don't even get me started about that horrible Pentile layout. On my Moto X with a 1080p display it was clearly visible.
I do like the blacks of AMOLED displays, no LCD can beat that. I'll admit that.
Still waiting for those examples. Even if they do it's obviously not the problem you make it out to be, or it would be easy for you to find examples.
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A few recent examples. Can't say much about the S5 (though one of my images appears to be an S5) and Note 4, they are relatively new and we don't know how those displays will look a year from now. Who knows, maybe the issue is solved in the latest generation AMOLED. Also lots of reports on forums without picture evidence, but I see no reason to not believe those people. Burn-in is real... just not EVERY single panel has it.