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My bad, I though the 360 was using an AMOLED display. Since it's using an LCD panel, it should be image persistence (LCD doesn't burn-in permanently unlike AMOLED), but I already mentioned that in a previous post. This is a really bad case though.
Point of my post is not to bash AMOLED, but people saying that AMOLED does not burn-in are not telling the truth. Just because your AMOLED displays don't have problems, does not mean the problem does not exist at all.
Point of my post is not to bash AMOLED, but people saying that AMOLED does not burn-in are not telling the truth. Just because your AMOLED displays don't have problems, does not mean the problem does not exist at all.
When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
A lot of those photos are store displays which is not being used in normal use . I wouldn't put much stock in store displays in general . I have my phone screen off at 2 mins and use it a lot and none of my phones ever had burn in.
Lcd displays can also have burn in if you want to nitpick.
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Phony fake metal ? The note 4 is metal sides ...real metal
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First off as I have previously stated plenty of times I have had plenty of Samsung devices from the Galaxy s2 to the s4 , note 3 and note 4 and the longest of the bunch I have owned was the s2 around 15 months . None ever had screen burn in and none of them had degrading colors . In practical matter degrading color issue is an non issue since most people upgrade at least every 2 years when their contract runs out. Ive seen friends Galaxy phones which they had for 2 years with no burn in or degrading colors .
Apple is using lcd well because they are stubborn. AMOLED has better blacks , screen burn in is an practical non issue specially since iOS doesn't really have static section of the screen , and at least with the note 4 accurate colors like an lcd. I go between my iPad Air 2 and note 4 and don't notice a difference other then screen size and os . Also AMOLED will solve a lot of apples QC issues since tbh they suck at QC and almost every Apple mobile product I have ever owned has light bleeding and even on my iPad Air 2 . They also have the book binding effect and the yellow tint which luckily I don't have those 2 issues which is why I am dealing with the minor light bleeding
A lot of those photos are store displays which is not being used in normal use . I wouldn't put much stock in store displays in general . I have my phone screen off at 2 mins and use it a lot and none of my phones ever had burn in.
Lcd displays can also have burn in if you want to nitpick.
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Phony fake metal ? The note 4 is metal sides ...real metal
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First off as I have previously stated plenty of times I have had plenty of Samsung devices from the Galaxy s2 to the s4 , note 3 and note 4 and the longest of the bunch I have owned was the s2 around 15 months . None ever had screen burn in and none of them had degrading colors . In practical matter degrading color issue is an non issue since most people upgrade at least every 2 years when their contract runs out. Ive seen friends Galaxy phones which they had for 2 years with no burn in or degrading colors .
Apple is using lcd well because they are stubborn. AMOLED has better blacks , screen burn in is an practical non issue specially since iOS doesn't really have static section of the screen , and at least with the note 4 accurate colors like an lcd. I go between my iPad Air 2 and note 4 and don't notice a difference other then screen size and os . Also AMOLED will solve a lot of apples QC issues since tbh they suck at QC and almost every Apple mobile product I have ever owned has light bleeding and even on my iPad Air 2 . They also have the book binding effect and the yellow tint which luckily I don't have those 2 issues which is why I am dealing with the minor light bleeding
Yes, they are showing burn-in. Are you blind? Apart from the Moto 360 (again, my bad) they are all AMOLED displays. And yes, AMOLED displays can be very uneven on solid colors. Stop spreading lies to make AMOLED look better please.
Uneven whites anyone?
So? Doesn't mean the issues don't exsist... I have two friends with an S2, both burned in status bars and the colors are terrible. Another friend has an S3, again burned in status bar and degraded colors. I do know soms people with S4's and they are fine. So again, and please read this time, not all panels have issues but some do. You can't just say they don't burn in because some DO burn in.
It's funny how someone here talked about Apple fanboys defending LCD. But you guys are a bunch of AMOLED fanboys hiding important disadvatages of AMOLED panels.
AMOLED panels have awesome blacks, but they are absolutely not perfect just as LCDs are not perfect.
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You have shown no real proof other then 1 phone . Store models is not normal usage ....
Degraded colors is an non issue with how fast people upgrade their phones ....even with newer phones I don't see it an issue with people who have had their Phoenix for 2 or 3 years
Doesn't matter- OLED blacks are perfectly black no matter how high you set the brightness. They're simply off, unlike an LCD where light is always leaking through. Open your IPad in a dark room to the login/password slider screen and look how washed out it is from the LCD backlight. That's how those images in this thread look, and how OLED never looks.
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Bang on there, i still remember when 3.5" was the perfect size screen size for a mobile phone lol. I was never a fan of Samsung or AMOLED screens but they have improved out of sight with the Note 4 screen and it was the main reason i got one, you would have to be a real fanboy to not take notice of the Note 4's brilliant display. The biggest positive of Amoled is having proper blacks, im going to have to upgrade my tv to an OLED too soon as the blacks are grey in comparison.
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Of course they are not displaying black..... They are displaying a shade of grey. If you make the screen black, the pixels are off and you can't see the burn in............ (Sounds logical right?) That's why they look washed out.
Instead of you all trying tot defend your precious amoled, try to read and understand my posts. And please dont read selectively. I'm not here to defend LCD, not to bash amoled.
You are all acting like Apple is stupid for using LCD, they have good reason to:
- they dont have access to samsungs latest gen panels
- Samsung clearly makes the best small amoled displays, to not fall behind the competition they need samsungs latest and greatest
-permanent burn in is a possibility
- color degradation, it doesnt matter if you upgrade after one month or after two years. Led backlit lcd looks the same after two years, amoled guaranteed does not. Apple may find this unacceptable for now, but thats a guess
- how does iOS look on a pentile matrix? The RGB layout and the pixel density of their current screens are beter than grainy pentile layouts. Yes i have owned a 5" amoled phone and it was crisp, but next to a 5” lcd it was noticably more grainy. Both 1080p. Apple could however decide to order RGB matrix amoled panels to solve this issue.
- some speculation: apple might have more control over lcd manufacturers. Latest gen technology is always available etc.
There are lots of reasons why Apple just can't change it all in one day. Maybe they're are already testing them but find them not good enough for today. LCD has its shortcomings, but it does have a lot of advantages, for now at least.
Apple is actively working on making amoled displays better, seeing they are filing patents regarding improvements on amoled displays. It makes me believe they do not find standard off-the-shelf amoled displays to be good enough and I think they will not want to rely on Samsung for displays (the more control point I made).
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There is also the point that apple would need an order of 30+million display panels a quarter, and that mey not be possible for the higher quality amoled panels anyway.
And of course price point, they may just be too expensive right now, or at least the price may be too high for the relatively small gain in display quality.
Samsung has its own screen gap-gate issues:
Bgr.com/2014/09/29/Galaxy-note-4-screen-separation-issue
All manufacturers have varied QC isssues; there is always some manufacturing defect to be had.
When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
What are you talking about 1080p pentile display isn't grainy .....I've use s4 , note 3 , and a nexus 5 which all have 1080p displays and the s4 and note 3 are AMOLED in pentile and nexus 5 is a lcd display . I had a nexus 5 between the s4 and note 3 and compared them next to each other and both were perfect .
Apple is NOT in the business of making parts and will be using a company be it Samsung, LG or whoever else to make their displays be it lcd AMOLED or whatever .
I've had personally owned a s2 for 15 months and have used a friends s3 which was 2 years old and neither have color degradation .....
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Gap gate ? Really ? Your also using BGR who's known to be pro iPhone and anti android in general ....
My note 4 has no quote gap gate ....,
What are you talking about 1080p pentile display isn't grainy .....I've use s4 , note 3 , and a nexus 5 which all have 1080p displays and the s4 and note 3 are AMOLED in pentile and nexus 5 is a lcd display . I had a nexus 5 between the s4 and note 3 and compared them next to each other and both were perfect .
Apple is NOT in the business of making parts and will be using a company be it Samsung, LG or whoever else to make their displays be it lcd AMOLED or whatever .
I've had personally owned a s2 for 15 months and have used a friends s3 which was 2 years old and neither have color degradation .....
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Gap gate ? Really ? Your also using BGR who's known to be pro iPhone and anti android in general ....
My note 4 has no quote gap gate ....,
Yeas but Apple has also been very known the have the worse QC in history imo. iPads have had light bleeding issues , book binding effect and yellow tint and up until the air 2 dust under the screen . I had returned over 4-6 iPad Air 1 last year because of dust under the screen and gave up.
Can you back up what you allege with some type credible evidence. Is this your opinion quoted as fact? Gap gate is just as bad.
When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
Gap gate is a non issue
You can simply Google yellow tinting issues , dust under the screen or book binding effect on Google or just look for old threads here on Mac rumors .
My iPad Air 2 had minor light bleeding but nothing worth going through the exchange game for
Gap gate is a non issue
You can simply Google yellow tinting issues , dust under the screen or book binding effect on Google or just look for old threads here on Mac rumors .
My iPad Air 2 had minor light bleeding but nothing worth going through the exchange game for
The gap causes no performance issues with the way the display works.
I would take a gs3,4,5 or any amoled with a chance of color degrading and screen burn in over this iphones screen issues at work.
Here is a picture of it
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Maybe you should have your eyes checked. There is a noticeable difference between a 5" 1080p pentile Amoled display and a 5" 1080p IPS LCD display.
You seem to have issues reading and understanding what I'm saying. I'm getting a bit tired of you. Apple issues patents and they research Amoled technology. They work closely together with LG for their Watch displays. Apple does not MAKE them, but they certainly have a say in HOW they are made.
To be honest, I don't care. I know they degrade.
Sure, didn't know the background was supposed to be an even black though. Important bit of info if you wanna make your case, that could just as well have been a perfectly healthy screen with a partially blue background
Maybe take another shot that is actually in focus?But there isn't a difference and my eye sight is perfect. My note 4 2k display is well perfect and comparing it to my iPad Air 2 .
Lg as far as I know doesn't make small screen OLED displays at all and the expert at making them is all Samsung .
Yet my own experience and plenty of others that I've known who has Samsung devices has no color degradation .... Who cares what 1 or 2 reports say on the Internet if most other people it doesn't happen
Sure, didn't know the background was supposed to be an even black though. Important bit of info if you wanna make your case, that could just as well have been a perfectly healthy screen with a partially blue background
You want me to take another shot in better focus to prove my Co workers iPhone has screen issues?